Thursday, 24 January 2013
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There's So Much More
"A lady I will be, but a man's accessory, his handbag, no thank you. I will not be someone's ornament. I will not just be someone's honey, baby, sweetheart." -Deb Caletti
I hear so many stories of women with wedding fever, who scour Pinterest for hours a day, obsessively planning these events that will only last for a few hours and that they'll end up having to pay off for the next six months. While I'll admit that I have my fair share of wedding boards on Pinterest, I have no intention of getting married in the near future - and when I say "near," I mean that I don't plan on marrying until well into my late 20s or early 30s, if at all.
I am 22 years old, and my boyfriend and I have been together since November of 2009. With a relationship well into its third year, the topic of marriage has come up more than once. When we first got together, I was very upfront about the fact that I don't intend on marrying any time soon, and I thought that he agreed as well. However, in the last year or so, his tune has completely changed, not to mention the fact that his mother, grandmother, and sister already view us as engaged/married. Seriously, his grandmother bought me a fake engagement ring for Christmas, and insisted that C be the one to give it to me. Can we say creeeeeepy?!I love my boyfriend more than any other man I've ever dated, and there's no doubt in my mind that if/when I decide to tie the knot, it will be with him. But that doesn't mean I want to be rushed into the process. Last night as we were eating dinner, we began talking about two of our mutual friends, who are a couple. These two friends are attempting to save money so that they can buy a huge piece of land in the middle of nowhere and begin a family. They want to live off the land for the rest of their lives, while raising their family.
Don't get me wrong, I think their dream is beautiful, and I admire any couple who wishes to be self-sustaining farmers, but I want so much more than that. I couldn't imagine a life in which all I ever amounted to was someone's wife and mother of their children. When I voiced these concerns to C, however, he was less than pleased. "I would be extremely proud if my greatest accomplishment in life was being your husband and the father of your children," he said. Once the words came out of his mouth, I knew that I was treading on thin ice and that if I didn't word my response appropriately, we would have ended the night with a huge fight.After pondering my options for a few minutes, I finally said, "I love you, and I'm extremely proud to be your girlfriend, and one day I'm sure that I would love to be your wife, but I would be lying if I said that I would find satisfaction in that scenario alone. I have dreams and goals that are completely independent of our relationship, goals that I intend on accomplishing no matter what. But that doesn't mean I don't want to share those things with you, because I do. I just don't want to fall into the trap that so many other women find themselves in: deciding between their families and their dreams."
I'm not in college for my "Mrs." degree, and maybe because of that it's misconstrued that I have commitment issues. And hell, maybe I do have commitment issues. Of the three parents I have (I'm adopted, so I have a biological dad and an adoptive dad), they've been married over 10 times collectively. I'm so young, so why should I be concerned with marriage at 22? My boyfriend and I can barely make ends meet now, so how would we ever finance a wedding, let alone a marriage? My decision to wait for marriage has earned me fights with my boyfriend, weird stares from his family, and indignant responses from some of my friends. But the bottom line is that the decision to marry is ultimately left to C and me.
Have you fallen victim to wedding fever? Do you have a time-frame in mind for marriage?
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I have no intentions of getting married. At all. That's not to say I never would - there are some benefits that come with it - but as someone who doesn't really want kids and is happily non-monogamous anyway, I don't really see a reason to go through it for the "traditional" reasons (ie, committing oneself to one other person for the rest of my life).
I think you're very wise to wait, and I also think you're very wise for making your non-relationship-related dreams a priority. You're young - you have a lot of time to do everything you want to do (and, all due respect to your relationship, both you and your boyfriend are going to change as you enter post-college adulthood, and you might change enough that you're no longer a good match). It actually bothers me that your boyfriend doesn't seem to embrace your dreams along with you - dreams and goals are a pretty key part of who I am, and if a partner of mine didn't value that aspect of me, we probably wouldn't be compatible.
Good luck with everything.
I don't see what a marriage has to do with your career/ goals unless you see your boyfriend hindering your goals with his views. But if he is open for you to achieve your goals, I don't see the issue.
Some women and men get carried away when thinking that marriage will end their life. Especially women who are so afraid to become a "house wife" by becoming wed. I personally find it a shame that people think this way. Being with someone you love and want to be with for the rest of your life, making that commitment is a beautiful thing!! As long as you both want it. If you find yourself not wanting a future with him, spare him from wasting his time with you.
Anyway, stop thinking of marriage as a dead end but rather a new journey that you don't have to make solo but with a companion at your side to join you while you achieve your goals TOGETHER.
I definitely want to get married, but I also have goals outside of that that I want to accomplish. I'm not going to put down others because they have different dreams. I have a friend who all she wants is to get married, she's in a job that she's doing well in but it isn't what she wants to do...and that is foreign to me because I know what I want and in it, and working towards getting better BUT that doesn't mean that someone who is a mother and housewife is not as good as me. They just have different values. I don't think you meant it to sound taht way, but it kind of sounds like you're putting other women down who are not as ambitious as you. I think it's really rude of your family and friends to judge you for not wanting to get married yet and put pressure on you though, that must be really uncomfortable. I do have to say though, it sounds like your boyfriend is much more family oriented than you. If he wants it now and the tensions are starting, what about in another 5 years when you still don't want them yet?
I'm 17, and my boyfriend have been dating for a long time. We're always looking hopeful for the future, but I always let him know I've got my own goals too, which includes college; I've always told him I don't want to rush into a future. You've got your whole life to get married and have children... I always knew it was best to do what you wanted to do in life, even if you've got a significant other who thinks different.
It's always bothered me how the majority of people view ENGAGEMENTS. I can't understand why people think long engagements are bad! If you're not ready for marriage but want to make a bigger commitment (and start making plans for a future together), then THAT'S what an engagement is for! The ring isn't some kind of code for "we must be married within a year". If you're not ready to get married at 22, don't. But that doesn't mean engagement is out of the question.
And like other people have said, marriage doesn't mean giving up your dreams. If you don't want a career, you don't need one. If you want to be a single career woman, go for it! If you want both, MAKE IT HAPPEN. Sooooooo many women are doing that right now, and one day you can too! It doesn't have to be as extreme as you're making it sound.
I'm 22. I'm getting married in 2 and a half moths...
And I don't think of it as all I'll ever amount to is to be someone's wife and a mother. Those both sound like wonderful things to me and very fulfilling. And I also don't really think getting married will stop me from doing what I want to do. Marriage shouldn't stop that. But, marriage should be a lifelong commitment. I've always hated people telling me that I'm too young to get married and I should go out and life my life and do the things I want to. By telling me that, you're contradicting yourself, because I want to be a wife to the love of my life and take care of him, cook for him, clean for him, BE HIS WIFE! Call me old fashioned, but THAT is what I want to do.
@ShirleyD@xanga - I definitely don't consider marriage a dead end. My best friend's parents have the healthiest and most loving marriage I've ever seen and I hope that I have that one day. I just feel like I'm being pressured a lot right now from a lot of people to make that leap. I'm not saying that I won't get married, because I love the idea of sharing a life with someone. I'm just trying to stress the fact that I'm so young, and want to do other things beforehand.
@isitreal_no@xanga - I definitely did not intend to belittle a woman's choice to be a stay at home mom. I think it's awesome when women choose that, and I can definitely appreciate it. I guess what I was really trying to insinuate is that I don't like feeling like my choice has been taken away. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom, it should be her choice 100%. And I totally feel you about the 5 years down the road thing, I do see it creating conflict. But then again, growing up is a strange process and five years is a heck of a long time. My opinions on marriage and children may have changed by then, lol.
@xhalesx@revelife - And I think it's absolutely wonderful because you are doing exactly what you want to do. :)
Being married does not mean you need to start having children immediately and it doesn't mean that you can't accomplish your dreams. You can do anything you want to do, except maybe screw other people unless you are in a poly relationship.
Marriage isn't a big deal, it's just a legal document. I'm 23 and got married in august and hey, guess what, things are EXACTLY the same as they were when we were dating or engaged. Nothing changes, people need to stop thinking marriage is some big step or it'll completely change your life/relationship and cut off all access you have to achieving your goals. It isn't. It's just a contract. Not saying that people should go into marriage willy-nilly because there are difficulties that come from that if you wish to divorce, but it's not this big life changing event that everyone thinks it is where you will suddenly transform into this being called a 'wife' and your previous self will cease to exist.
You can be a wife and still be more than that. To suggest that once you get married all you'll ever amount to is being someone's wife or mother is offensive.
Getting married somehow getting in the way of your dreams is suggesting that your boyfriend will get in the way of your dreams. Wouldn't you need to break up with him to accomplish your dreams then? And if you don't think you need to do that, then marriage won't make any difference.
If you don't want to get married that's fine, but I think setting some time-frame is stupid. Saying you don't want to get married until you are such-and-such age is about as dumb as those people who say they want to get married BY such-and-such age. You get married when you and your partner want to. That's it.
I think you and your bf need to try and come to some sort of middle ground. A compromise. Such as an engagement. Or (kind of cheesy) a promise ring. Maybe your bf is just afraid of losing you. Also think about what would you say if he did propose. Would you refuse but still stay with him? Or say "I'll think about it?" Sure, he should understand your position too (not saying it's all your fault) but it almost sounds like you completely shut him down. Maybe he already has the ring and was planning to propose.
Like others have said, being proud of being the wife and mother doesn't mean you still can't be a successful career woman. Those two are not mutually exclusive states.
You also have to try and ignore (kind of) the relatives. Of course the grandparents want you to marry their grandson, of course the parents want their son to have a great wife, etc. Think of it more as a compliment because that means that they love you too. They really want you and your bf to be together. There are couples out there who can't say the same.
Ultimately, I'm sure you two will be just fine. I don't see how marriage will suddenly make dreams unattainable. I see it as just another level of commitment.
I finally said, "I love you, and I'm extremely proud to be your girlfriend, and one day I'm sure that I would love to be your wife, but I would be lying if I said that I would find satisfaction in that scenario alone. I have dreams and goals that are completely independent of our relationship, goals that I intend on accomplishing no matter what. But that doesn't mean I don't want to share those things with you, because I do. I just don't want to fall into the trap that so many other women find themselves in: deciding between their families and their dreams."
are you sure you're only 22? lol j/k. that is one of the most mature and tactful responses to a difficult situation that I've heard in a long time. :)
i have no interest in getting married because
1) it costs money (even if all we do is get a marriage license)2) my boyfriend and i are not religious, so we see no need for a ceremony of any kind
married twice, failed twice.
first time - stupid mistake, too young to realize marriage is very different on the after side of the wedding than what one thinks on the before side.
second time - he left, unable to 'deal with' my health issues (heart); coincidentally, he found a younger woman rather quickly.@hxckendra@xanga - Thank you! I get so sick of hearing people argue about when the RIGHT time to get married is. There is no specific age, length of relationship, etc. It's different for everyone. And everyone needs to be okay with that. :)
Don't ask me.. I fell in love and married the fella in 8 months. I was 25. Nearly 35 years later, we are still married and love each other more than when we first married.
I would have been very happy to be a wife and mother and not work outside the home..but, I did have a career and still do. It's worked out well.
Don't let anyone rush you into marriage. Take your time and make sure your boyfriend is 'the one'.
Many happy returns !
Christy
@flapper_femme_fatale@xanga - The legal benefits you get from being married far outweigh the $50 it costs for a marriage license. If your boyfriend is on life support and his family wants to pull the plug and you don't, they'll pull the plug because you get no say in any medical decisions. If he's in the intensive care unit, you can be barred from seeing him because you aren't family. If he told you he didn't want a religious funeral but his family still wants to have a religious funeral anyway, they can go against his and your wishes because you have no rights.
Lets say you bought a house together as boyfriend and girlfriend. If he dies, half of that house goes to his family instead of going to you. All of his assets go to his family. It's almost like divorce.
You also have access to his employer insurance and health benefits and visa versa, and you can be entitled to any of his retirement benefits if he dies.
I'm an atheist so there's obviously no religious reason why I should be married either, but the legal benefits make it worth it. There's definitely more benefits than the ones I listed, but the most important one for me is being able to make medical decisions for my husband if he is incapacitated instead of all of the rights going to his family, who do not know him well and wouldn't know what decisions he would make as well as I would.
People are ready for marriage at different ages. Some people are ready at 22, but a lot of people aren't. It's a good idea not to rush into such a huge commitment if you aren't ready for it, especially if you KNOW you aren't ready for it.
@Syaoransbear@xanga - those are all very good points. right now in the relationship, i don't think we've been together long enough (only 4 years) to have that kind of say in each other's lives. as we get older and our parents pass away, though, that will definitely change.
I feel similarly to you, in that I don't want my life goals and dreams to be hindered by a future family, and in some ways my boyfriend is like yours. And if you don't want to get married yet, you shouldn't have to, or feel forced to. Twenty-two is still so young! I'm only twenty now and I can't imagine people giving me the eye about marriage in two years, that seems ridiculous! I just hope you can make peace with everyone and they will understand your reasons for waiting.
Personally, I'd marry my boyfriend in a heartbeat (we've been dating for nearly 2 and 1/2 years) but I want it to be a special event, not something rushed. I guess you could say I have wedding fever, because I truly wish to be joined with him, but I want a small party-like celebration with family instead of an enormous stuffy ceremony. I hope whatever happens for the two of you, you are happy with it :)
I've read so many times here on Datingish of failed relationships. Usually, although not entirely, the reason is fairly obvious -- most young people didn't really think about the future and their own readiness. So, although I have views that include saving sex for marriage, I am all for young people setting goals and pursuing objectives for education and career. In my view these are important for developing a healthy lifestyle; and these goal setting and activities towards developing in careers should come before mariage for young men and women that plan to live healthy lives. Now, of course, some may choose to become homemakers. I'm not excluding that as a career aspiration. Age? Well, no coment on that just now. The age of a person isn't as important as mental, emotional, psychosocial and spiritual maturity.
Now that's a thoughtful response for such a situation. I ought to learn how to do that.