Tuesday, 09 October 2012

  • Watching a Girl's Demise


    This post was submitted anonymously.


    I moved seven hours away from my family for college, but like many other fish in the academic sea, I make it home when I can.  My boyfriend and my younger brother and sisters are there, so I try to shoot up the interstate when I have a long weekend.  This has meant I’ve maintained relationships in my little town, and I want to feel out the Internet community for advice regarding an acquaintance of mine.

    I met this girl – we’ll call her Kate – through a strange and kind of coincidental series of events, and we started texting.  First important thing to know: Kate is fourteen years old.  She’s significantly younger than me, so basically, she just hits me up for advice when things suck.  I’ve only seen her a handful of times.

    Background information: I got to know her through her older sister – let’s say Allie – who is also younger than me.  Allie had her own long, dramatic debacle that mirrors what Kate is going through right now, and ended up with two babies before she was 18 and a “fiancé” that takes off for months, crashes with her and her parents when its convenient to him, and smacks her around.

    Kate and Allie’s parents are totally messed up, so bear in mind that any advice you give cannot involve them at all Allie’s mother slept with the father of her two children, and her father saw her “fiancé” punching her – while she was pregnant! – and just told him to “calm down.” 

    So, I know this will sound like some stupid MTV drama.  And I think part of the problem is that they want it to be.  But, anyway....

    Kate met this guy – Juan – when she was 13.  Juan is 26.  He started in on her immediately, buying her flowers and lunch and that sort of thing.

    Kate is morbidly obese and does all of her schoolwork online.  She has no interaction with people outside of her very unhealthy family and reality TV shows.  She has major self-esteem issues that she tries to make up for by being incredibly loud and brassy, wearing skimpy clothes and too much makeup, etc.

    I picked a stereotypical Spanish name because Juan speaks Spanish.  He speaks no English.  Kate doesn’t speak Spanish at all.  They communicate through applications like Google Translate.  I’m a native Spanish speaker, so part of our relationship consists of her sending me things he has messaged her and asking me what they mean.

    While I was home in Chile for a few months, Kate started sleeping with Juan.  By the time I came back, she was having pregnancy scares.  She was barely fourteen.  She found out, during this time period, that Juan has two children and a girlfriend back in his home country.  He’s also sleeping around.  A lot – prostitutes, co-workers, you name it.

    That’s all bad enough, but additionally, the way he treats her is horrendous.  He “broke up” with her because she told him that he was her best friend and her boyfriend, and he found that offensive.  “Oh, so now I’m just your friend?” He asked her.  She said sorry and he said, “Olvida la relación – te metiste en gran problema, verdad?”  “Forget about our relationship.... You’re in big trouble now, right?”  When she found naked pictures of other girls on his phone, he blew up at her and “broke up” with her again, making it all her fault for invading his privacy. 

    When she was with her mother and couldn’t run upstairs with him to have sex with him, he “broke up” with her again.  Every “break up” consists of a good week or two of her groveling – via text, Facebook status, voice mail, messaging – to get him back and him refusing her, calling her a “whore,” telling her to forget him, etc.  He tells her she isn’t attractive, and that he never liked her.

    Eventually, he’ll consent to “take her back” after a phone call from Kate’s older sister, Allie, or a visit from Kate’s mother, who actually does go and BEG this loser to “be with” her daughter!

    It’s all a sick control game.  When he feels she’s been “punished” enough, he’ll take her back, have sex with her again, tell her he loves her and wants to bring her to his home country with him (I often wonder how the mother of his children would feel about that).  He’s insanely jealous and possessive.  That’s what Kate thinks is proof of his “love,” though, and Allie and their mother encourage that notion.  Her father is clueless.

    "You’re all mine, I love you for always and forever, we have stupid fights but we’ll always get over them." That’s the vein of her Facebook status after they get “back together,” and the relationship status goes from “It’s complicated” to “In a relationship” with a guy who won’t let her be Facebook friends with him because it would impede the comments he leaves all over the half-naked Facebook pictures of other girls.  She tells him she loves him and he laughs.

    Basically, the same thing happened to Allie, and her two children are growing up in this environment.

    Kate’s just a kid who’s barely fourteen.  Obviously, this situation is poisonous.  Juan is using her body as a doormat, she doesn’t understand that he is literally mocking her and that she deserves something better, and the people in her life that are supposed to protect her from being used like this are too busy egging her on to feed their own inherent hunger for drama.  Kate’s not respecting herself and is falling victim to insane machismo that she has distorted into some kind of love story, but Juan is basically treating her like a sex toy.

    So yeah, everything’s messed up.  That’s not why I’m writing this post.  My question is, do I have an obligation to do something?  She's so young.  Can I do something?  Should I translate these things that he is saying that break her heart and what little self esteem she may have left?  Do I give her advice and try to empower her even though I feel like it falls on deaf ears?  Should I just wash my hands of the matter and forget about it?

    Have any of you watched someone lose him/herself in a similar way?  What did you do?  What should I do?

Comments (27)

  • Ticklelicious@xanga

    I think you should intervene. You wrote this long post so obviously your conscience wants you to do something. You will end up regretting if you don't. Perhaps you should watch good romantic movies with her that portrays a good loving relationship and point that out to her why most women desire this type of relationship. I know it's hard to teach someone when she doesn't have good role models. I think you can start being a good role model for her. Also stop translating for her. Since she is always asking you for relationship advice that means she trusts your advice. You can also tell her what type of romantic relationship you look for and who you won't date and why. Maybe she will learn something.

  • Lyrical_L@xanga

    You need to research more about child services. That girl is in danger of harming herself further without any parental control. Your involvement or desire to be a role model is not enough. I believe her lifestyle requires a full intervention.

  • babybug329@xanga

    I agree with Lyrical_L.  I know you cannot just stand by and let Kate get more hurt.  But she will require more help than you can provide, I'm sure.  She needs a loving home, and probably some therapy.  Best wishes.  I hope Kate can get the help she needs.

  • TiredSoVeryTired@xanga

    Although I don't believe any of this story... if you suspect any of it to be true then you should make a quick call to CPS.  Have you met any of these people?

  • BlehhItsTu@xanga

    DUH. Report the pedophile to the police or something.. and get Kate a social worker or some kind of government help.


    This is just a sick madness that even Kate has got to realize she deserves better. Break the pattern. Don't let Kate, pregnant or not, continue this ugly cycle.
  • Cho_0705@xanga

    Simple question, could you live with yourself if you don't? It might damage your relationship with her and her entire family, but if it's as screwed up as described here already then seriously what is there to lose? At least if you manage to remove the guy or something you can leave your friendship knowing you left her in a better place. 

  • EccentricSiren@xanga

    It seems like she looks up to you. She might not listen to you at first, but at that age, if you're someone she looks up to, you probably have a better chance at convincing her to turn around than most people do. But she's going to need professional help. You can be her friend and tell her that she deserves better, that this guy has no business treating her (or anyone) the way he does, whatever you feel is relevant. But maybe you could look into what sort of professional help might be available to her for free. (YMCA, church/synagogue, hotline, etc.) and point her in the right direction.

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  • xinq@xanga

    Have I watched someone lose his/her way?  Totally! I've seen my arch nemesis fall flat on her face. She's so pathetic that instead of hating her anymore I actually want to help her -- it's too bad though all the rumors she's spread about me, I'm probably the last person she wants advice from.  She keeps going back to a guy that has a family now and excepts him to commit to her because she's once again, "used to everything they used to have" and can't just drop it even though it's been years since anything was good with them.  When I saw guys like that toy with me I immediately dropped them because I wasn't going to let them play me like that.  I didn't waste my time having a grieving period for those types of guys.  Easy to get with and easy to get over.


    Even myself, I've had my own demises, but not with relationships, with other personal matters. However, I've overcome them and am on my way to being right where I want to be.
  • Son_Solo_Palabras_Huecas@xanga

    I agree with the comments above. I work with teenagers in similar situations. My advice contact CPS. The whole family needs an INTERVENTION and there' is no way you on your own can help all of them. At least under CPS they are legally obligated to go to therapy etc. And from what I read all the family is in desperately need of counseling.

    I meet 12 year olds whose parents let them date 27-28 year olds (yeah I wish I was kidding) and that had babies from them before turning 13. It would be really sad for this girl to end up in the same situation. 

  • Erika_Steele@xanga
  • sunflowersforlove@xanga

    Call CPS for the family and the cops on that guy. That's absolutely wrong in so many ways. Is he even here legally? If not, maybe getting the cops called will get him deported and at least get rid of that issue. I mean, I don't know the whole situation, but I would do whatever I could to get Kate away from the guy and then work on the family situation from there. They are definitely enablers, but it would probably be better to do one thing at a time.

  • seriously_meredith@xanga

    It seems like you are the only one who really cares about this girl and so I think that you should do something. I don't know enough about CPS to give advice on calling them but finding out the legal options may be a good idea. She will be upset when she "loses" this guy but I am pretty positive 5 years from now she will be thanking you.

  • EpikhIghGoflYy@xanga

    You will need to call the authorities, it is totally illegal for a guy his age to be having any type of sexual contact with a minor. I think you should get him while she's young before things turn for the worst, hes basically a molester. 

  • vicdaily@xanga
  • gilly_owens@xanga

    *cough* child services *cough* Just saying. This is so toxic for her, she needs help, a better home, and therapy. You know about her situation, you should report it so she has the chance to get the help she deserves. If you don't, it doesn't sound like 'Kate' ever will, and then what? Evil exists in part because good people do nothing. Don't fall into that category.

  • mynewlife1126@xanga

    Child services... the police... SOMETHING. That is your obligation.

  • LeeKymKween@xanga

    call child services. if you're scared of doing it alone, get an older understanding family member or brother/sister to help you with contacting them.

  • Manic_Butterflies@xanga

    Is there a reason for not getting legal authority involved? Her home sounds terrible...but if you can't bring yourself to report her neglectful family at least get this pedophile away from her. I'm not saying a 14 year old is the equivalent of a 7 year old "child" but she really does need to protected.

  • fantaiesiesombre@xanga

    Report his ass... Throw him in jail for being a sexual offender - because, quite frankly, that is what he is, age differences aside.

  • nodnarbassoon@xanga

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pirateotter1@xanga

    I think you should tell the police and him juan arrested and have her taken into protective custody so she can get the help she needs mentally and physically. I think the whole family should be broken up they sound very toxic when around each other, and I think the small children should be taken away with their teen mother so she can learn how to be a responisble adult instead of a wart on societys ass like her mom. I feel bad for both of those girls they shouldnt have had to go through all of this they should have been protected from people who were going to use them, and they should be taught responsibility. Its never too late to act like a mature adult.

  • Digital_Angel21@xanga

    Everyone is saying call CPS, and mentioning how the sexual contact is illegal...but I'm still not 100% sure who lives where and if Kate is from the US. 

  • LeviStyles@xanga

    Try to find some kind of child authority you can report it to.

  • misslei11@xanga

    Why are you worried about them breaking up so much instead of the fact that he's 12 years older than her and I believe that in most places that is illegal and considered statutory rape? Call the cops, don't write a post about it! Poor girls :( 

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