Thursday, 19 July 2012

  • He Was Engaged, I'm Afraid


    My guy is amazing.  He's smart, funny, ambitious, generous, kind, sweet, and unbearably handsome in an old school Hollywood glam kind of way.  It is unreal.

    Before I make you too jealous, let me tell you what's bugging me and you can tell me if I'm insane.  He was engaged before he met me.  They were together almost 9 years and his fiance called off the wedding five weeks before it happened.  Four months later he met me off an online dating site and we've been together now for almost 8 months.

    He tells me he loves me and I want so badly to believe him because I am head over heels and way too deep in love.  I'm nervous about the ex though for a number of reasons.

    One?  He refers to her as "the ex" instead of her real name when she comes up in conversation.  It's not every day but it's definitely more than I'd like.

    Two?  There are still pictures of her around.  Not in frames but there is a photo album with her pictures and he has some on his computer.  One is even on the desktop (not as the background but there's an icon leading to it).

    Three?  He still has texts from her in his phone.  I KNOW!  I'm a bad person for looking.  I mean did I think there was going to be fantastic news for me there?  

    Four?  It's almost a year since things ended and he knows exactly how many days till it is a year.

    Last night we had a fairly serious discussion about it.  He told me he loves me and it worries him that I don't feel as strongly as he does and I'll leave.  He also said he doesn't miss his ex but he misses what they had - the history they had.  He said he wants to build the same with me but it just takes time and it's rough.  He said he thinks we have what it takes to really make it as a couple because we're amazing together (and he's not wrong on that one).

    I'm perhaps even more worried.  I'm concerned that he wants me as a replacement for what he's lost.  I'm concerned he just wants me to fill some void.  I'm not the first girl he's dated since the breakup but I worry that he's mistaking our connection for a chance to get back the relationship he had and this is never going to be that.  Also, when the time comes for an engagement with us (and that's a long way off for both of us) will he be able to be unafraid?

    I didn't tell him what I was feeling.  I'm too scared.  If I'm right then I will lose everything we have and that will kill me.  I think I need to bring it up but I'm terrified I'll get crushed.  

    Any advice?  Should I say something?  Am I insane?  Anyone ever been in a similar situation?

Comments (33)

  • QuantumStorm@xanga

    There's a girl who posts videos on youtube that deal with such things. She has a very similar perspective and I strongly suggest you check her out. Here's one of her videos. It's short but very good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN7yYWGViyI

  • Erika_Steele@xanga

    If it was bothering me that much and I honestly thought I would be in a relationship with a guy for a long time, I would bring it up.  This isn't some little thing like you think he may be a little obsessed with his cat.  If he really does want you to be a replacement, then it is a big deal.

    Has he given you any real reason to think he may want you to be a replacement for what he lost? I don't see how the examples you have given are good indicators that he wants you to replace his ex-fiance.  He calls her the "ex", some guys just do that.  He still has pictures?  They were together for almost a decade.  I'd be more concerned if he tried to erase all evidence of the "ex" by deleting all digital pictures and burning all hard copies.  It would be different if they were only together for a short period of time.  Then it hasn't even been a year....yes, he is clearly just obsessed.  The text thing would only be weird if he looked at them ritualistically at the same time everyday and cried to his shrine to "the ex".  So what he has text from a woman that he was in a relationship with for almost a decade and they haven't been broke up for a year yet.  He knows the day they broke it off, ...that's right men aren't supposed to be good at remembering anniversaries and birthdays and such...he must be obsessed.

    So unless he is giving you real reasons to think he wants you to be her, then you may have to accept the fact that he is still a little sentimental over a woman he was with for 9 years and it has only been almost a year since it has ended.  It's normal.  It is healthy.  Don't expect him to just bury her under the rug.

  • randaness@xanga

    Tell him that you think that what you have is definitely real, but you're still worried a little about being a rebound. Discuss what you two want for your future together, and why. Is it because that's what he wanted with her? Is it because that's what he wanted before her?

  • TheNotoriousGOD@xanga

    if this was 7 months ago, i wouldn't hesitate to say that you're a rebound.  but i don't normally think rebounds last this long, right?

    that being said--how old is he?  if he's under the age of 30 and was with this chick for 9 years, he doesn't know "how" to be single.  i'd be afraid that he's not emotionally independent.  that's a huge red flag to me.

  • xxfl1@xanga

    this is the type of situation im not sure about. really talking to him would probably be for the best, he might tell you something you dont want to hear but at least you'd know. also tell him you're uncomfortable with how he doesnt seem to be moving on- i get they were together for a long time, i just would feel the same way you're feeling. last year i dated this guy who was not over his ex. ending things with him was excellent, it took a while to remember how much certain parts sucked. it was love at first sight for me and i really saw a future with him. we got along so well, but i could see down the road how i was a rebound and he wasn't emotionally there even though our connection was real. he contacted me earlier this month, we lost touch in late novemember (woohoo!) and i always thought if he contacted me again things would be different. but really the experience of being his emotional afterthought wasnt good enough and once i saw it was him i didn't even respond. im dating a guy who is emotionally available and too classy to even put me through something like that.

    he really did put in the effort though and tried (kind of). i guess what it amounts to is if you're willing to go through this transition period with him until it becomes all on you, if you guys get that far. maybe make a list of all the things you want to discuss and touch base during a comfortable, open time for both of you.

  • ashleynicole@lovelyish

    @TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - I strung along a rebound for a year before I dumped him :/

    I have no suggestions, but I'm in the beginning stages of this. I met a guy online and we've gone on a few dates and he shared that he'd been previously engaged about 5 months ago. That doesn't bother me, but I wonder if he's completely over it - especially since it was kind of obvious that he is feeling lonely right now. But I'm not in the best place right now either, so we might just wind up using each other to reach a better place emotionally before parting ways. No idea if things will even progress enough for that though. But it's definitely a weird thing to face and I'm not even in a relationship!

  • Edeline_Wrigh@xanga

    I think it depends.

    I'm polyamorous, so I approach it a little differently. I'm capable of loving multiple people at once and wanting to be with multiple people at once without my feelings for one or more people getting in the way of my feelings for one or more other people.

    In application to this situation... It makes perfect sense to me that he may not be over his ex and may even still be in love with her, but also is in love with you and would be regardless of whether he had a recent breakup.

    That said... a lot of people don't do this, and I'm skeptical that you're not a rebound. That such a long relationship ended so recently and she's still such a big presence is a red flag. It just doesn't *necessarily* mean anything negative about your relationship.


    Talk to him. Try to use "I feel" phrases and hope for the best. Good luck.
  • Asinine_Dreams@xanga

    @Erika_Steele@xanga has it exactly right.

    This guy was with her for

    9 years

    . Not a month or a couple months. NINE years. That is a significant amount of time. Some people can do it, but most people will not get over a nine year relationship in just a couple of months. Be patient. If he hasn't given you any sure indication he is still obsessed with her, then just be compassionate and patient.

  • TheNotoriousGOD@xanga

    @ashleynicole@lovelyish - wow.  that's good to know.  thanks for correcting me.

    and, like i said recently...chalk up another reason why i never want to do a relationship.

  • paper_mausoleum@xanga

    So, he was with her for 9 years, would get married in about a month - and then it all ended. Four months later he met you. Why is it even a question if he is over her yet?! I highly doubt you could get over such a relationship in only 4-7 months.... That said, it does not mean that you two cannot be together. He also clearly loves you and that is possible to coexist besides his grieving for the loss of what they used to have - so if you are willing to give him the time and space to get over this within your relationship it could work. If you're that good together you might want to sacrifice some space for a solid relationship in say, a year. I would want to know why his ex called of the wedding, and would also monitor whether you are introduced to family and friends (as if, he is serious about you). If not, you may be the rebound after all...

  • ashleynicole@lovelyish

    @TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - no problem. in my case though I didn't really consciously realize he was a rebound until quite far into the relationship. Had it not been long-distance I wonder if I would have kept it up even longer. 

  • LadyGwenivere@xanga

    Talk To Him!
    Tell him how you are feeling. One of the key foundation blocks of a strong relationship is COMMUNICATION. Even if its something you don't really want to hear, its better to have it out in the open then trying to pretend its not there. If its something you two need to work on, then couple's counseling is usually a good idea.
    He was with this girl for 9 years.. thats a long time.
    I refer to my ex as my ex... his name makes me sick to my stomach because of what he did..
    And to be honest... it sorta sounds like you are looking for problems... this girl is his ex, you are his now.. either talk to him about it or just let it be and let him talk to you. Keeping track of all this stuff is just going to build up resentment in you against a girl you don't know which can kill your chances at a future with this guy.

  • oneLBcloser@xanga

    @TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - I was thinking the same thing. I only date men who are single for long periods of time, because then I am sure they want me for me, and not just to outdo their ex, occupy themselves or replace their true love. But some people are just relationship people I guess... can you really stop them? If that's the case he's going to date SOMEONE and at least the OP really cares for him and is not using him to fill a void. Maybe she can help him conquer his heartbreak (9 years, I can't even fathom) more than being single could?

    To really give useful adice on this you'd have to know this guy well. He sounds like he has a head on his shoulders despite creating a dating profile immediately after a 9 year relationship-turned-engagement.

  • vicdaily@xanga

    uhhhhhh. You shouldn't have started dating him. Also, since you've already been dating him, you should ask him to go get some therapy and work through it if you want to be with him. Also....don't let him date you for nine years before proposing :)

  • books8137@xanga

    TALK TO HIM!!! Stop being scared and tell him or your insecurities and fears will seriously undermine, then destroy whatever you have with him. 

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    there was a guy, who is attracted a particular style of makeup on girls, and it is a sexual turn on for him. when he told me I knew that it was the way that his ex applied makeup. it really made me sick to my stomach thinking that he wanted me to look like her. or if he likes other girls, who already have the same style of makeup, then he isn't changing who they already are, but still, he likely thinks about his ex when he looks at these girls, who resemble his ex. anyway that wasn't the only thing that made me lose interest.

  • xcrownedhopeless

    What would worry me the most if I were in your situation would be that he said he wants to build the same thing with you that he had with this other woman. He should want to build something completely different and better, you know what I mean? Also, I don't understand why he can't refer to her by name. As small as it may seem, it makes it a very real situation when you have to refer to a person by their name instead of distancing yourself from the situation by avoiding it. I don't think keeping a picture or two of her is a problem. I keep pictures of my exgirlfriend because I appreciate the memories I have of her and what we had. I learned from my experiences with her and I'd like to remember her. It doesn't mean I'm hung up on her in any way, it means I want to remember that portion of my life and how it led me to where I am now. As far as you looking in his phone, that was already a no-no and you knew that going into it. Texts from her from 9 months ago is worrisome and I'm not even sure what to say about that. Unresolved issues for sure, even if he doesn't realize it yet. I can understand why you're worried about being his rebound and I would definitely keep talking to him about your concerns. A relationship should be built around communication and trust. If you want to be with him in the long term and it's serious, you'll have to work on these things and get past his relationship with her (the one that he's not completely over. you must agree, if you didn't, you wouldn't be coming to Datingish asking for our opinion, y'know?)

  • Cambios@xanga

    I think it all depends. I loved someone for 5 years but thankfully my feelings shut off, I was able to love again and I'm in a very happy, healthy relationship where she never comes up in myself or between us. 

  • VampireOfSeduction@xanga

    1. Referring to her as "the ex" is a way of emotionally distancing himself from her, and/or making a point to hold onto the anger (possibly to avoid the pain). It may be simply a habit at this point, but I'd be willing to bet that's what it started as. I don't think it's anything to worry about.
    2. I don't see any reason to get rid of pictures of people. Like it or not, she was once a very important part of his life, and probably was a factor in shaping him to be the person he is today. You should neither expect nor want that to completely go away.
    3. Reminders, maybe. Without knowing what they say, I can't analyze.
    4. Traumatic dates have a tendency to stick with you.

    You aren't her. You'll never be her. But that doesn't make him wrong for wanting to "have that back". Yes, in a way, you're a replacement. Something awesome to replace something awesome that went bad. But so is any second spouse or next boyfriend or anything like that. Old car lets you down, you buy a new one, but that doesn't mean you don't like the new car. Of course you'd like to have all of the same positive features that the old one had. The new car may or may not have all of those features, but it's still a good car I apologize for the bad analogy but I'm terrible at explaining what I'm trying to say sometimes.

  • xsimplepleasuresx@xanga

    1  I refer to all of my exes as "ex", "an ex" for prior relationships, "the ex" for the most recent ex.  It's just easier to me.


    2  She was a part of his life for a long time, probably during personal defining moments, it would be weird to try to erase that completely.
    3.  I have never deleted any text messages.  my phone only stores 150 messages per person, but I don't remove the others, I don't see the old messages, and they don't slow down my phone, so I don't bother
    4  That seems a bit odd to me, referring to the number of days, not the knowledge of the date it ended.If he misses something, it is likely the feeling of being "set" in life, as in knowing exactly who/where he would be in life in regards to dating.  When I got married, I felt like I knew my plan in life, my goals, etc. (not referring to work, but personal life)
  • xhalesx@revelife

    My sister, just got married to someone who was previously engaged. They are madly in love, you can tell. I don't remember how soon after the his ex broke off the engagement, but it wasn't very long.


    My boyfriend and I both had broken off serious relationships less than a moth before we started dating. It's been 3 years now, and we're getting married in less than a year. Guys are seriously forgetful. My boyfriend had pictures of his ex on his phone still, and he was tagged in some of his ex's pictures on facebook. He wouldn't have deleted them, or un-tagged them because he really didn't remember they were out there.
  • xhalesx@revelife

    @vicdaily@xanga - Why shouldn't she have started dating him?

  • xhalesx@revelife

    @TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - I had just gotten out of a serious relationship 2 months before I started dating my boyfriend, and that was less than a month after he broke off a semi-serious relationship too. We've been together for 3 years.

  • T0m03@xanga

    I think he started dating again a wee bit too soon...

  • Endrath@xanga

    I would suggest that any person who was an influence in a person's life for Nine Years is probably a VERY significant part of that person's life.  I see no problem with a mature, reasonable adult embracing the memories of that person, and cherishing some of those times.  Nor would I consider it unreasonable that a well-adjusted person can have such memories, and fall in love again.  After all, wouldn't that person have a rather good idea what love actually is? I would be more worried about maladjustment if they were to just block out all references to that person, who was such a significant part of their life for so long.  As far as saying "the ex" instead of a name, that could be a consideration to you... he may think it is easier on you to say "the ex" instead of referring to her by a personal name... some might construe that as lingering attachment.

    The "replacement for what he's lost" theory is uh... interesting.  Are you saying he wants you to be a replacement for a person whom he treasured for many years, was going to marry, and have and hold forevermore?  Uh... I can think of a few worse things that a man who wants that from you.

  • Sign in to Comment

  • Give eProps (?)

About the Author

Who recommended?