Saturday, 14 July 2012
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Troll Much?
As a fellow Xanga user, I can say I've posted about a total of three times ever since I've been here and I have to say I love the website in general. I like that it's not mainstream but yet, I can blog and still get feedback from a sufficient amount of fellow bloggers. I've used this website ever since I was introduced to it around the 7th grade until now as an upcoming sophomore in college.
The things I've posted so far have mostly been about my SO problems and the feedback has been amazing, with some exceptions. But, I just have to comment on how many trolls there are that take their time to comment well, bullshit, when people are posting about problems or something genuinely interesting. For those of you who don't know what a troll is, it's a term for someone who takes their time commenting online for the sheer joy of being an ass.
I posted about my BF problems and I was surprised to see things like "Dump him" and "He's loser, you're a loser, grow up, I have no brain blah blah blah." The comments that I really hate the most on everyone's blogs are "Grow up, this problem is so stupid, you're stupid," and "This isn't even a problem." All I have to say is GO TROLL SOMEWHERE ELSE, a place where it's welcome like Facebook.
I mean how pathetic are you to take time out of your blog reading to say rude things. I mean I enjoy reading the comments and reading someone's random comment that is completely off topic, those are just funny. It's when I see those people that literally sit there and TYPE out, letter by letter, irrelevant and stuck-up comments just to put people down. I wouldn't mind one or two but it seems like these days Xanga is filled with them.
Seriously, go troll somewhere else. Go gossip on Tumblr. Go tweet about your dislikes. It's welcome there. But here it's just annoying. Yes I sat here, and I typed this out, I took time out of my schedule to address the haters. Like most of the people who blog, I feel like writing is something personal and that yes, it's a chance taken when you write something and put it online that someone will be critical about it. Fine. I accept that. But, it's outrageous what people say, and instead of writing novels of insults to the aforementioned trolls, back and forth, back forth, I thought I'd address the problem right here. Right now.
Stop being so close-minded, stuck up, and plain rude. I repeat troll somewhere else. Read a book.What about you guys, do you agree? Anything to say about this?
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I think you said it better than I could have. :)
that's probably because there are like 10 red flags that the reader sees that the person in the relationship, who is blindly in love might be biased and not see, so some of us sees how poorly their s.o. is treating them, and the guy/girl sounds like a loser. and I haven't told people to dump their s.o. but when I see other people saying it, I see it as a blunt way to say that the blogger deserves to be treated better. some of these blogs seem like the blogger is trolling themselves because it is so ridiculously obvious that they are dating a loser. but the person has hope and wants to see change, so to each their own. my comment is: to each their own
the final choice of what to do should be between the two people in the relationship and they should talk it out in a civil manner and come to a mutual decision. if their s.o. won't listen, is stubborn, and immature, then they aren't compatible or their s.o. isn't ready for a mature relationship.
I agree! It is one thing to say your opinion and another thing to be a total jerk! Which, by the way, I think is horrible that there are people who find joy in hurting others.
I troll sometimes. Especially when someone writes or does something ridiculous. Some people like to get to the point. Depends on the article.
You're right, there are a lot of trolls, and a growing number of them. I have reported a few of the worst trolls to datingish before, and I suggest you do the same... AB is pretty good at taking care of the website.
There are some very good commenters. I'd like to see an "MVP Commenter" system for those people who do take the time to post thoughtful, critical, not-trolly responses to a large number of people. Maybe highlight their posts, like they have an automatic mini or something? On datingish itself, I'd recommend these people...
TiredOhSoVeryTired - Mature poster, always has useful advice, great perspective. Probably the best on datingish about talking to people of different ages/statuses, and being useful at all levels.
TheNotoriousGOD - Experienced dater, very different perspective than a lot of the teens/tweens that post fantastic stories in their comments, quite down-to-earth and realistic, as well as honest.
VicDaily - Great commenter, quite eloquent, and her advice is also based on her experience. Brings a long-term, reflective approach to her posting, and has a fabulous smile in her portrait picture.
LaytexDuckie - This guy has a lot of good thoughts, and shares them well. Hyperanalyze the usertag all you want... I think that's the point.
Trolls have seeped out onto the majority of the internet.. I don't go to /b/ anymore because that's where they typically lurk.
Oooh! Cool, I'm also a college sophomore (and also started Xanga in 2006-2007!) what a coinky-dink - although I think it's because Xanga was the trend back then.. but I still stick to Xanga as my personal private blog.
Anyway, this problem cannot be solved because mean people, unfortunately, will continue to be mean... :<Oooh... well, now if you are getting the same exact feedback you might want to stop and think about that. I've read some stuff here and there that I either think is fake or some 14-year-old got onto Xanga when they should be doing homework. I usually try to measure what I say in case I'm wrong. lol. But sometimes I have just said, "Dump him/her", well I probably said, "Break up with them." Sometimes it is easier just to cut to the chase with some of this stuff.
Of course, there are people just out to "enjoy" themselves by being cruel and you'll just have to learn to ignore them or block them. It's the online atmosphere that is open to all that this happens, if you chance your issue onto Datingish you will run into mean people. :(
@Endrath@xanga - Ahh, thanks! :)
Oh, come on. There's not many people in this world that go, "I'm going to read some blogs & tell people to grow up!" Depending on the title, I'll read as many blogs that interest me when I'm on in the morning. I sip my coffee & read. I comment. & yes, sometimes a post rubs me the wrong was or is childish or poorly written & I'll call them out on it. But there's a huge difference than being rude & being honest. I have seen people be extremely rude or have had comments on my posts that were extremely rude but they're not going to stop. It's up to you to grow some thicker skin & not let it bother you. I have also seen people give blunt advice & have it blown completely out of proportion. But on the internet we have almost absolute freedom of speech & if you ask for someone's opinion, they're going to give you it. & no, you're not always going to like it.
Bottom line; this is the internet. You don't know about 90% of who's on it. So why would anything they say bother you?
There's a difference between "trolling" and being honest. A lot of people are too easily offended and hate hearing the truth.
Any time you spill your heart out into a public space you have opened yourself up to ANYTHING. If you always want censored or politically correct responses you might try a therapist (they are paid to do that). But you are conducting your views with strangers and those strangers could be anyone from 10 years old to 85 years old. They could be tactful or scathingly crude. They may tell you things you may not want to hear- and in doing so they may be right or they may be totally wrong.
Dont be afraid to use the "block user" option with Xanga if you think it is abusive or simply not worth your time.
I havent read your blog so I have no idea if your probelms are childish or not. But lets say we sit down and watch Jerry Springer together... we could easily point out some losers and some childish relationships. There is a large community of people who have the most ridiculous lives and they have CHOSEN to have the most stupid problems that are easily avoidable if they simply walked away and CHOSE a life of less B.S.
Now some problems in people's lives are unavoidable and I think those are situations where strangers may have more empathy for others. But if you CHOOSE to repeatedly be with someone that every stranger on earth can see is bad for you.... then you do lose respect because there are REAL problems in the world that need REAL attention. People also know that bad things in life are going to happen to you as a natural result of living... so dont go out of your way to bring in something unnecessarily stupid on top of that when it is avoidable or easily resolved. (Granted I've made that mistake- who hasnt at some point?)
Honestly some personal problems are not worth sharing because they have no business being center stage with an audience. We have a society that encourages that because it sells ratings and TV shows but that doesnt mean its appropriate for you to do. Before you post something to a population of strangers consider the consequences and be ready.... either to toughen up, block users, or reconsider the content you are posting.
i have to agree with Daydreams-nightmares. and i'm not saying 'trolls' are okay, if you do not like what someone says and just want attention you should just write on your own blog about it I see no need to just write assinine comments or to put donw somone else.
but, if you are writing about your dating issues or problems on a public space in the expectation of getting adivice or feedback or help, then you get what you get and don't expect people to care about your issue either. You do, you need to seek professional help or a focused 'help group' specified for your issue where you know that all those in the group are seriou and are there for the same reason. Do not expect to go onto a public general blogger network and then get angry at 'trolls'.
On the internet there are trolls. You ignore the trolls. This is what I call "troll bait." I don't think this site is every going to be mainstream again, people prefer short-answer options like pinterest or twitter for sharing ideas. I like it here because of the good people that there are, and thats what is worth mentioning, I think.
I missed the part where this has to do with dating. I come to the Xangan network to read blogs that are featured, and Datingish rarely fails me/etc., but this... How is this even related to dating? Seriously...
Also, I blog myself. I receive "trolls" from time to time. Like @amandascowen mentioned above, 'do not expect to go onto a public general blogger network and then get angry at trolls'.
You could always blog on Blogspot/WordPress/etc., make some blogging friends and prevent more trolls there and via a spam prevention plugin (if using WP). Of course, that requires more knowledge than getting angry at trolls does.
umad?
If there are a bajillion red flags and it's obviously not going to work out, I don't see a problem with people posting "break up, it's not gonna last," etc.
Also this is the Internet, deal with it.
"Troll." I do not think it means what you think it means. Someone saying they don't think your problem is important isn't trolling. Someone saying you should dump him isn't trolling. It's just not.
@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - Agreed.
My own definition of troll is being an unreasonable jerk. When something said that is the truth (no matter how much of an ass that sounds), it's not troll to me. Some people just can't handle hearing the truth (repeatedly).
@Endrath@xanga - I agree 100 percent with your "MVPs"
Don't feed the trolls, and all will be fine lol.
I like comments that make me laugh or swoon. I almost immediately had to message a guy regarding his comment that I was swooning over that apparently disappeared into thin air or was deleted for some unknown reason, but I read it and when I went back to read it again to swoon myself silly, it was gone. he's a hopeless romantic and omg I'll keep the rest of my thoughts to myself
while some of these others make me hurl. anyway, the other comments that get my attention are some of the "trolls" but it depends on how you define a troll. I kinda miss the love doctor nunez' asscrack poems or whatever. I mostly remember them about something related to cracks rofl to each their own.
Okay, but sometimes he is a loser and you should dump him. Or her.
@pinkmooncrystal@xanga - Agreed, trolling is a art. Its using the least amount of effort to generate the greatest amount of stupid behavior and anger out of others, both IRL and online.
For anyone who wants to hear real trolling: watch here.
@pinkmooncrystal@xanga - Agreed.
OP, you clearly do not understand the definition of the term "troll".