Saturday, 30 June 2012

  • We Are All Gay


    It has been a huge thing with men, macho men in particular, to make sure it is crystal clear that they are not homosexuals and will never be gay. Is that kind of machismo behavior deceiving? I think it is, and this is why:

      1. I don't see any reason why someone would have to be so animate about not being gay that he/she would have to show hate, indifference, feel uncomfortable, or jump on the "eww" bandwagon, unless he/she is hiding something. 

      2. There is scientific evidence that, in my opinion, lead to strong possibilities that everyone has had homosexual thoughts, feelings, or both; men have xy chromosomes -- one feminine or female, and one masculine or male. Women have xx chromosomes -- if there was any engineering for gay thoughts in men or women it would be because of our chemistry.

    I believe the girl that resides within all men has come out at least once or twice. Women have nothing but girl chromosomes so I believe that women have not only had the thoughts, feelings, or both, it has been sub-consciously more accepted in society. Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying that gay women don't have a lot of bigotry, prejudice, or heartbreak to fight and/or overcome, but, because of that "macho attitude", men might get a bit more grief for this human fact than a woman (in my opinion).

      3. Comparing penis sizes in the showers, sitting in a circle and masturbating to see who ejaculates first, masturbating standing up to see who ejaculates farther, games like "Oookie Cookie," where supposed straight guys are masturbating over a cookie, ejaculate on the cookie, and then the last person who ejaculates has to eat the cookie -- even skinny dipping with a bunch of guys -- these are all the things that I've heard of that just don't sound very heterosexual (I've only done the skinny dipping -- the other stuff I haven't experienced).

    Women getting drunk at parties and making out, cuddling and sleeping in the same bed, friends bikini waxing each other, holding hands, and complimenting each others legs, butts, breasts -- calling another girl hot. Does that sound completely straight to you, or might there be some light homosexuality in those interactions as well? 

    So what's the big deal? Why is there such a problem with thinking, feeling, or having a gay experience? Is it really wrong or is it natural? Does it make you gay to think, feel, or experience intimacy with someone from the same sex? Well, if you said yes, you just might be the one that's wrong. Sexuality is complex, and concrete answers are non-existent (http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100409031807AAzOCCYhttp://www.sodahead.com/living/does-one-homosexual-experience-make-you-gay/question-1461845/

    The bottom line is: for those who are having thoughts, feelings, or both -- don't hate yourself and use those who are comfortable with their sexuality as scapegoats. No one else has anything to do with it, it's not their fault, and you can't extract human nature from yourself. You will always be who you are, where ever you are, and even if you don't know who you are -- Love yourself always and take everything with stride. 

    Have I ever had gay thoughts, feelings, or both? I'll put it this way -- I'm mostly straight but, sometimes the girl in me likes to come out and sit on my lap... 

                                            

                                          And no, I'm not ashamed about being a human being!

Comments (120)

  • PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga

    Homosexuality is a sexual disorder whereas, men and women having a mix of masculine and feminine characteristics is normal.

    So while you may be gay yourself, that doesn't mean everyone else is.

  • Edeline_Wrigh@xanga

    I don't think this post demonstrates a strong understanding of sexuality and gender.

    As a girl who has bikini waxed other girls (and even as a bisexual girl who's done it) - that has a lot more to do with the fact that bikini waxing is really painful and it's easier for someone else to tear the wax off of you than to do it yourself. It's not necessarily sexual. It's "OH FUCK THIS HURTS PLEASE DO IT FOR ME."

    Complimenting another girl's body is more about helping your friends' self esteem than about being attracted to them. Parts that are sexualized are also parts that receive a lot of criticism if they're not "perfect" - countering these with positive feedback isn't necessarily sexual, even if the words used are viewed as such by outsiders.

    Making out while drunk COULD be sexual attraction... or it could be an act done to attract dudes, who the girls are actually attracted to.

    Not all cuddling is sexual. Asexuals like cuddling. So do children. It's an emotionally/physically intimate act, perhaps, but that doesn't make it sexual.

    Things are not always as they appear; in order to say a lot of acts are indicative of homosexual leanings, you have to know a lot more about context than "they did this thing that is sometimes gay!" (IMO, a lot of the things listed for guys are indicative more of sexual competition than sexual attraction...)

    I do agree with your "bottom line," though.

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    I'm a straight female, but sometimes I'd like to be the penetrator with an actual penis, not a replica sex toy penis, a real one attached to my body, and I also want my own tarzan hot bod I'll transfer my mind to a male body, who already exists, like that freaky friday movie, except I don't want to switch with my mom, I want to switch with jason momoa then I'll be having mad jungle sex with my woman the only time that I'd be attracted to a woman is when I repossessed the body of a man, so I'm still straight. if I'm in my own female body, I don't want to be intimate with any woman whatsoever. wtf I'm getting turned on imagining my hypothetical boner as a jungle man

  • ctaretz@xanga
  • ctaretz@xanga

    @PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - no sexual thoughts towards the same sex is a disorder, nor is sexuality of any sort -- and it isn't defined easily, (period) (in my opinion). No, I'm not gay, I don't consider myself that at least, because thoughts from time to time doesn't define what a person is, it doesn't earn a label (nothing does). Me saying that, "I'm mostly straight but sometimes the girl comes out and sits on my lap", is just me using me as an example of an undefined label. I used a label but, I'm not a label. I also believe that being hateful towards others for being who they are is completely wrong.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @Edeline_Wrigh@xanga - I see what you're saying and you proved my point in a way, just because it looks or sounds "gay" doesn't mean its deserving of that label, things just aren't concrete enough pertaining to sexuality.

  • PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga

    @ctaretz@xanga - You title claims, "We Are All Gay."

    I refuted that claim since it is obviously false.
  • EpistemicDuty@xanga

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKB7vAFTdA8

  • pnrj@xanga

    @Edeline_Wrigh@xanga - 

    What you're saying may be true.

    But think of it this way: If men did those same things with each other, we'd be thought of as gay. So the question becomes, which view is right? Are these things actually a little gay, or are the standards for men too strict? (Could be both I guess.)

  • pnrj@xanga

    I never did any of those things you said other men often do... (actually I wonder how common they really are.)

    Ironically, I am bisexual.

    And it's not that I wouldn't want to... well, come to think of it, maybe it is. I don't like this idea of sex as competition, where someone wins and someone loses.

    I'll drink a guy's cum, if I like him; but I don't want it to be seen as a punishment for losing. 

    Also, since when is cumming fast winning? Try that with a woman and it's called "premature ejaculation".

  • pnrj@xanga

    @PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - Homosexuality is not considered a disorder by the mainstream medical and psychological community. It was removed from the DSM over thirty years ago, and probably should have been taken out well before that.

  • TheNotoriousGOD@xanga

    i listen to rihanna, beyonce, and lady gaga, and think "call me maybe" is the best song in the fucking world.  if that's what defines me as gay, so be it.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - I understand that, the title was just a lure to get people to read the post. Hopefully the post itself wasn't a claim that people were gay in general, but, prone to homosexual thoughts etc. I, by no means am trying to label everyone as gay. Maybe next time I'll make a title that coincides more with the subject matter. And also people won't miss the whole point of the post itself.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @pnrj@xanga - Good point on the contest of cumming first. And you have the right to be who you are without judgment.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - LOL! Again, sexuality is not a defining thing, or at least it was never supposed to be.

  • PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga

    @pnrj@xanga - Homosexuality is objectively disordered. We don't need leftist medical establishments to tell us what we can see with our own two eyes.

    If you believe in evolution, then you must believe that homosexuality is a disorder.

    If you believe in God who created man and woman after his own image then you must believe that homosexuality is a disorder.

    If you are classically educated and have studied Aristotle then you must believe that homosexuality is a disorder.

    Since science, religion and philosophy all tell us the same thing, that homosexuality is a disorder, it is clear that the ruling from the DSM is politically motivated.
  • Edeline_Wrigh@xanga

    @pnrj@xanga - I think standards of men are too strict. That's based on my research/personal observations and colored by my bias, of course.

  • deargodkillme@xanga

    @PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - There is scientific evidence that claims being homosexual actually has an evolutionary basis. Its supposed to help raise the young by increasing the adult family members vs children in family ratio another research I've read suggested it was nature's way of controlling human population.

    So science doesn't define it as disorder.

  • Drew85@xanga

    -Machismo is a noun, not an adjective-- there's "macho behavior" and "machismo" but not "machismo behavior." This is akin to saying "anger behavior" instead of "angry behavior."
    -"why someone would have to be so animate" ... I think you mean "adamant."
    -"
    There is scientific evidence that, in my opinion, lead to strong
    possibilities that everyone has had homosexual thoughts, feelings, or
    both; men have xy chromosomes -- one feminine or female, and one
    masculine or male. Women have xx chromosomes -- if there was any
    engineering for gay thoughts in men or women it would be because of our
    chemistry.
    " This bears no resemblance at all to how biology actually works.
    -Your point #3-- most of these are things just urban legends. Other than skinny dipping, ask around-- I'm willing to bet that you can't find anyone who has personally done any of those things, though of course many will tell you "they have a friend who did." (But then try and meet that friend and ask them in person, and it will likely turn out to be not actually them, but a friend of theirs.)

    All that said, yeah, I agree with you-- I think the natural state of humans is to be bisexual horndogs, and we are conditioned by society to repress some of our urges.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @Drew85@xanga - Although I originally just wanted to call you annoying, I'm just gonna thank you for correcting those two words and educating me on a subject that baffles most.

    Glad we're at an agreement, it's always pleasnt 2 b on da saym payj...

  • jl4theLord@xanga

    This article speaks of all this as fact, it's fine to have an opinion, but that is merely what this article and many ways holds. I do beleve that there are many straight people from time to time that have an occasional homosexual curiosity, but others that don't have any. Guess what though! That's only my opionion just like this article.

  • AuCinema@xanga

    Bleh. Another one of these. I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with proving that straight people have gay thoughts. What if I went around trying to convince gay people that they have straight thoughts? People would call me a Christian nutcase or something. I have an issue with some of your claims:

    For example, yes, when I'm in a sexual relationship with a man I like to hold his hand, but that doesn't mean that every time I hold someone's hand I have sexual feelings for them. I hold little children's hands, does that mean I'm a pedophile? Also, as far as complimenting another woman's body, I think that usually actually has to do more with insecurity and self-awareness than sexuality. Also, I agree with someone else above who said that girls who make out with each other at parties are actually only doing it for male attention.

    As far as those games you mentioned that men supposedly play, they do sound pretty homoerotic. However, you make them sound like they're commonplace and that the majority of young guys growing up play them - I highly doubt that. Also, if you're going to claim there is a great deal of scientific evidence showing homosexual thoughts in straight men, you should provide a link to some of that evidence.

    Essentially, I think you're making a lot of assumptions and logical leaps here. I'm not saying that your claim ISN'T true, I just think the evidence you provide here is weak and fails to prove your point. Personally, I just take what people say about their sexuality at face value. If they say they're straight, I accept it. If they say they're gay, I accept that, too. It's none of my business and they know themselves better than I and I would never presume to tell them how they really feel.

  • ctaretz@xanga

    @jl4theLord@xanga - So when I said, "in my opinion", I was talking fact?

  • PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga

    @deargodkillme@xanga - Science is about proof, not story telling. Sexuality is about reproduction of the species.  Another reason homosexuality is disordered is because if everyone were homosexual then the human race would go extinct.

    Also, imagine if homosexuality suddenly ceased to exist.

    It would not be missed one single bit.  All former GLBT would breath a sigh of relief and move on happily with their lives.

  • Awake_My_Soul420@xanga

    At #3- do guys actually do this..? I could never masturbate in front of my friends. That's just weird. & this is coming from a lesbian. The skinny dipping is normal but everything else.. eww.

    Men & women both have a steady flow of estrogen & testosterone. Sometimes males have an overproduction of estrogen (vice versa for females), which can be a factor in sexuality. I know if you MRI a gay brain, let's say a male brain in this case, it actually resembles the female brain more than the male; http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617151845.htm


    So while I definitely don't think that everyone is gay, it's safe to assume with the growing use of hormones in meat, dairy & many other products that we might be confusing our bodies & this is what makes us prone to bisexuality or homosexuality. Of course, this proves that it's mostly not a choice because the change is in the actual physiology of the brain. & then there are the girls who just like to make out with other girls for attention but wouldn't date a girl. I think that is simply our carnal instincts taking over.

    Overall, the brain is a fascinating thing.
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