I really don't get that, ever. I think there are lots of wonderful maravelous guys outside. It actually always seem to be a lot more gentleman available than girls, at least that's the way I perceive it. It always seems to be a shortage on girls trying to find a partner, as said at least to me it always seem to be more gentleman than ladies outside.

some of us also want the vice versa equivalent of a lady during the day and a freak in the sheets. a gentleman during the day and a freak at night. my crush is totally like this. he's a bigshot at work and has every right to be due to earning his high status, but he is very friendly and humble. he doesn't request or demand special treatment even though we'd understand since he deserves and earned it. he has a nice desk but not some fancy custom gold detailing nor does he hang his awards and pics all over his desk like some of my other average coworkers do to show off. he's the boss but acts like he's the rest of us, so he is approachable and I bet a lot of females have a crush on him like I do, because he's charming in a non-intimidating way, but he is just dreamy as if I didn't mention this before however, he knows when to boast and when not to. he shows off during his personal time. he has the bigshot cars and other things. I didn't think he was being arrogant when I saw a pic of him showing off his fancy car, but I was turned on, because he is this professional gentleman at work, but he also has that badboy side to him he doesn't get drunk to the point of not remembering or acting stupid, but even when he drinks, he makes it classy he gets buzzed on fine wine and manages to look like he's having a good time without looking like a fool, but a handsome gentleman, who knows how to enjoy life I can totally relate to him. he's also a family man, so he has his own hobbies, but knows his limits, thus not getting into trouble, but still having fun. he has self discipline, self respect, and he respects others and others seem to respect him, too. although I wonder if he dirty talks, because his voice would be perfect for that he doesn't look like the stereotypical rich geek or old geek. he's still youthful and one of rare rich and handsome people, who aren't celebrities, but he might as well be a celebrity because I think he has some celebrity friends he'll probably turn straight men bi because he's so charismatic and handsome. I'm keeping him my own secret though

your posts seem to have a common "friend zone" thread, as @QuantumStorm@xanga already pointed out.

Your ass just got friend-zoned, dude.

@testyman666@xanga - Usually, when women I know talk about men who need home training or those who need mamas, they are talking about respect..not being trained in general. Just a clearup. And when I talk about gentlemen, I'm not talking about the guy that has to be done up. Just the ones who say and do all the right stuff to the right type of girl. To me, that word could mean anything at this point, depending on what kind of man tickles your fancy.

@QuantumStorm@xanga - You are probably right about how it usually goes, but this particular lady didn't give off that friend one vibe, especially since she openly admitted her crush on me at the time.

@coolmonkey@xanga - Oh, shit, son. It's coolmonkey!

@daydreams_nightmares@xanga - See my response to QuantumStorm. From experience, I've learned plenty of things that can get your ass friend zoned. One of them is disrupting the flow from friend to lover or trying to be forceful with it. All I ever did with most girls was be myself. (shrugs)

"Men with home training?" I don't even know what that means. Manners? Knows how to scrub a toilet?

I'm still not 100% sure what your point is other than to give yourself a giant pat on the back. As a woman, I'm aware that there are plenty of "gentlemen" around. Unfortunately, gentlemen are boring 99% of the time, hence why they're constantly friend zoned. Anyway, I suggest that you don't let this friend's go to your head. This girl has a crush on you, obviously she is going to say flattering things. She may see you as a rare find, but most people won't see you that way. Everyone who is attracted to someone thinks that the object of their affection is unique and special ... that's just how attraction works.

@testyman666@xanga - But... I thought bitches love chivalry??

all of your posts are the same you hate women we get it 

@x_sweetautumnmisery@xanga - You just made it painfully obvious that you haven't REALLY read all my posts then. Only one post expressed anger, but not hatred for women, but I was being realistic about how men have the same amount of anger towards the opposite sex as you do. Leave it to me to fill out a double-standard that's abrasive enough to inspire slander. But it looks like I'm better off letting you talk. If I can't convince you, then it looks like you are goin to have to deal with my pseudo-woman scolding vitriol for the rest of whatever percentage of your life is spent reading Datingish.

@AuCinema@xanga - In all fairness, I don't really think they're getting friend-zoned 'cause they're boring. It seems, more often than not, it's because they're lacking whatever (usually subjective) sum of self-confidence the object of their affections expects from a man/woman/&c. There're plenty of incredibly boring people in the world who still manage to get a hell of a lot of dates - they've just got boatloads of confidence and know the rules of the game.

@AuCinema@xanga - Bam. Gotcha.

I've been told I'm "too nice" and "too smart" to date, even that I'd make "pretty much a perfect boyfriend," but none of those women even remotely wanted anything to do with me.

If a woman extols your virtue but distances herself from you, she is (a) lying her ass off, and doesn't find you so very nice or smart or boyfriendly, (b) doesn't want a man who is nice or smart or boyfriendly, or (c) wants those things but insanely believes they can be divorced from the - for lack of a better word - dullness such virtuosity entails.

So yeah, I've often heard women complaining about the lack of good guys around her while simultaneously professing to be knee deep in them. But with regards to (a), why would she lie to make you feel good if she thought you were a dirtbag? Thus I'm left with the tired, old, and controversial conclusion that a hell of a lot of people don't WANT good people and say they do because it's polite.