Friday, 17 February 2012
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Getting Over the Past
I had an argument with the boyfriend the other day.
We had gone for drinks with an old high school friend of mine and we end up talking about my past and the people I had slept with when I was younger. Later when we got home, he was in quite a bad mood and I asked him what was wrong. He said he doesn't like hearing about my past. He said he accepts it and knows he can't change them and understands that I'm a better person now, but he still doesn't want to hear about it.
Thing is, I want to know about his past. I want to know experiences he's been through. I want to know about people he's slept with and blah. And it wouldn't hurt me emotionally if I knew about it because it was in the past and it happened before we even knew each other. So why does it hurt him? I want to be able to be myself around him and not have to filter out topics.
My past is bound to come up in conversation around my friends or in whatever we end up talking about and I don't want to have to be like "oh wait. Let's not talk about this because it makes my boyfriend uncomfortable." I don't think I should have to censor out my thoughts.
Or perhaps I'm just being selfish and insensitive.
Do men and women have different sensitivities to a partner's past? Or am I just a cold-hearted bitch.
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honestly, id have to agree with your boyfriend on this one, no one wants to hear about the past. Theres a million other things to talk about that is appropriate.
Yeah my boyfriend and I both don't really like discussing the past. We talk about it if it's relevant to the conversation and if it helps us make a point, but we don't talk about it all the time because certain things make us both uncomfortable, like details about past sexual experiences, and things of that nature. I think it's perfectly understandable that your boyfriend isn't comfortable talking about it, because he probably just doesn't want to picture you being with anyone else but him (I think the fact that this bothers him is a good thing, because it shows his investment in you, but maybe that's just me). Since you two differ when it comes to how much you want to talk about the past, then maybe you should come to some kind of compromise. Don't talk about it just to talk, but maybe just use specific circumstances in your past to explain things in the present, that way it doesn't feel like you're only talking about the past because it was fun, or whatever. This way, the past has meaning for the present, and maybe it won't bother your boyfriend as much. Also, sometimes, the way a person talks about the past and what brought it up can influence how much in bothers the other person. If you only talk about it in a way that's relevant to now, then those factors won't matter because it will feel like talking about the past has a purpose. Just my two cents.
I do want to know a girl's past. Unfortunately, it can certainly make me worry for and about her more in some cases.
I don't see why your sexual past has to come up in conversation, ever, to be honest with you. If it makes him uncomfortable then I think you should stop. Just because you can't empathize with his feelings, does not mean they are automatically invalid.
I don't like hearing about my partner's past relationships. It's likely an insecurity thing, but I like the idea of the investment too. Who wants to picture the person they love with someone else, or banging a bunch of other people? You don't have to filter yourself, but you should be respectful of his comfort and boundaries too and not press the subject if you know he doesn't like hearing about it.
The only time the past relationships matter to me is if there's some sort of trigger I should know about; things I should and shouldn't do, based on whatever it is that happened with former partners, or if there's anything medical I should know.
I would guess that when you're talking about your past sexual and romantic encounters your boyfriend gets a mental picture of you with that other person and it hurts him to imagine it. He loves you right? So maybe he's a bit sensitive and you're not as sensitive that doesn't make either of you wrong it just makes you different. If you love him and you think he's worth it a little bit of self censoring might be just the thing you need in order to let him know you respect the fact that he can't handle thoughts of you with anyone else. He can't really help the way your memories of the past make him feel and of course you should never feel like you are forced to censor every word out of your mouth. On the other hand if you self censor by choice because you want to spare his feelings and that works for you both then there's nothing wrong with it. Love is all about compromises and little sacrifices on both sides. You just need to decide what you can live with and whether or not he's worth it to give up a little of your right to say whatever you like whenever you like.
If he doesn't want to hear about who you fucked and when, where, and graphic details... you have to respect that. It's kinda like hearing about your parents sex life. Most kids don't wanna know about it! So be respectful enough to not give him the details of the past men ihn your life. Cuz otherwise you are indeed just being an asshole.
I can sympathize with the OP since I see the past as just something to learn from, not to be buried like a shameful secret. I like to know about my GF's past and no topic is off limit with me, which is funny because she's more uncomfortable talking about it than I am hearing about it. I do, however, understand that is not a two-way street and she definitely does not want to hear about my past. Of course she has openly admitted that she gets jealous easily and is slightly annoyed that I never do. I sometimes pretend to be jealous just to humor her but she knows I'm mocking her =P If your BF isn't comfortable listening to you talk about your past, respect his wishes, even if you think it's ridiculous.
I agree with most of the other posters above, but will add that he may not be comfortable talking about his past because he's heard about your past and feels his doesn't measure up.
I basically agree with everybody that has posted. The past should remain in the past.
Agree with the comments. It may be what helped u grow and all that but no one wants to here about some other guy you were with, it's something that he'll worry about stacking up against. The only thing he wants to hear about is how happy you are with him. If he asks about ur past it would be for a validation that he's doing better and that may be why u wanna know. If he dated and awesome selfless super model (which probably doesn't exist :) ) would u wanna hear about her? Probably not cuz you'd feel threatened. Just my take cuz i feel the same way as ur bf
Just know you did nothing wrong and you are not a cold-hearted bitch.
The both of you are simply looking at each other's past through different lensesI am in the same situation but different side
I get really upset when my boyfriend's past comes up, but he doesn't get upset when my past come up. I tell him I get upset because I cannot stand the idea of him being attracted to other people. I get jealous and I admit I'm a little insecure. On the other hand, my boyfriend is totally find and acknowledges my past attractions. He just knows he loves me.
Some people need more reassurance, more attention or some people are more confident and secure about their relationship. There is no right or wrong. Just be understanding of your boyfriend's dislike for the past, but he should also be understanding that the past is the past and that it does and will come up.
As long as you guys both know that you love each other and the past is the past, then everything should be ok.
the metaphorical can of worms is best to leave unopened.
a past guy described a girl from his past and basically he described her as some goddess dream girl. so I thought that since he was sharing...why not I share a guy from my past, too
then I could tell that he was mad(
) but trying to play it cool
...when I described in vivid details about how gorgeous and absolutely dreamy my past guy was
passive aggressive behavior ensued afterwards
you want to pretend that it was nothing but then wonder if the person regrets the past relationship not working out and is settling for you
it turned out that he wasn't over his past and was rebounding. so sometimes, sharing can reveal red flags. sometimes not but it depends on the individual situation. anyway, I'd rather not know and focus on the present.
i think it's ok to talk about your past as long as you have a certain limit to what you talk about. like why would you want to hear about all the sexual partners your partner has had? i don't see why i would ever want to divulge such detailed things like that in front of my bf.
the past is a hard thing for some people to deal with. even though it is the past some people still can't handle hearing about it. just be understanding that he just looks at things differently than you.
I'm with your boyfriend on this one. And my boyfriend agrees with your boyfriend too. Not that we really have pasts in a sexual sense. And I don't have much of a past in just a relationship sense. I've been in one relationship other than the one I'm in now. My boyfriend on the other hand has had quite a few relationships. None of them were serious though. That tends to make me feel better since I know that he wasn't emotionally attached to any of them. I wasn't really emotionally attached to my ex either. I though I was. Breaking up was really hard. But, after like a week I was fine. And then my boyfriend (now) and I started talking and getting to know each other, then a little over a month later we were going out on our first date, and I had completely forgotten about my ex.
But back to the hearing about pasts. I still don't like to hear him talk about his past girlfriends and he doesn't really like to hear me talk about mine. We focus on now and the future.
do men and women have different sensitivities?
yes, but it is more personal than gender based.
for me, it is really hard to accept that a potential partner would want to be with someone else. it means the prospect of me wasn't enough or that the idea of me is alien/new to the person and so we don't belong together.
in case the first part doesn't make sense; most of the time the traits we find attractive are seen as attractive by others. objectively speaking thinking someone is meant for someone else is naive, stupid and biologically incorrect- but the premise of monogamy's validity as an institution rides on the premise that there is something beautiful or worthwhile in two people experiencing one another. and together spurning others as a token of devotion for their partner.
in case the second part doesn't make sense; i believe one shouldn't change their partner. to be something better than what the partner expected to be possible, qualifies as a change. one should merely be a continuity of the person. once you see yourself as dependent on the other person you can make changes only because you are changing part of your expression of self, merely through them.
You're definitely not a cold-hearted bitch. I totally understand where you're coming from because no matter what other people say or how trite it might sound, your past is an important part of who you are today. If you're in a relationship, both people need to be comfortable with each other to the point that they can discuss any topic without needing filters. It's not about hiding things or censoring them but honest, open communication.
Talk to your boyfriend about why he's uncomfortable and let him know that though your past shaped your present, it's the now that matters so he shouldn't worry about it. Who you are today is the person he fell in love with so it doesn't matter who you were then because he wasn't even there. What happened in YOUR past doesn't affect him today, so tell him to see
things from your perspective because it doesn't sound like he's trying
to understand you; you're the one taking the time and effort to realize that it hurts him and that you want to help improve the situation for him but that can't happen if he won't meet you halfway. It's compromise for both parties, not sacrifice for one. What's the point of catering to someone else's insecurities at your detriment? Why should I have to stroke your ego or you mine? For me, a relationship is strong when each person trusts and loves him/herself as much as the other party. It's about supporting the other person in every way that matters; you've got that down pat but I think he needs to work on that.
you would talk about who you slept with to your boyfriend? really? and you really want to know every girl your boyfriend slept with?
There's a difference between discussing it so that each of you know where the other stands. It's important to know how many people you've been what, experiences, etc... but once you share those you don't really need to keep bringing them up, especially if it makes one or both of you uncomfortable.
Yes, it's understandable that your past will come up in conversations, but I think if you care about someone it's good to realize their sensitivities (such as your past) - it's not necessarily what you say, but how you say them. There are other ways to talk with your friends about your past without mentioning details that would upset him. And if there aren't, then save that kind of talk for when you're having a girls night.
My fiance and I have talked about my past, but now that he knows I don't bring it up much. There are times when an ex boyfriend's name will come into conversation, but that without a good reason. And I never talk about anything too personal that I know would make him feel uncomfortable. Lucky for me, my fiance was a virgin before me, but I know his past would bother me if he had one.
But look at it this way, he def cares about you if he doesn't want to think about you with anyone else! :)
The hell? Honestly, why would you talk about the X amount of people you've slept with in front of your current flame?! That's something you would do with girlfriends or a guy who is just a friend & there's no romantic connection there. Even guys/girls who straight up tell you that they want to know how many people you've slept with - don't actually want to know. They may think they want to know & can handle it..but in the end..dishing out that sort of information, asked or not will almost 90% of the time end in a fight or a break up. No boyfriend or girlfriend wants to know that you were a "player" or slept with "a guy with a huge dick" back in high school or college days. Why? Because it makes them insecure. It also either subconsciously or consciously implants the mental pictures or ideas on whether or not they can ever measure up to so & so in the sack. Everyone has a past & let me tell you..some things are better left in the past. Or at least gossiped & examined over a cocktail with some
friendsnot your boyfriend. He doesn't want a play by play of your old sex life & believe me, you probably don't want one of his either.
It's just inappropriate to discuss banging other guys in front of your boyfriend. Even if it's the past.
People react differently, but like most people on here, I'd have to agree: if I was your bf, I wouldn't want to know who you did in the past. I feel like you're comfortable with knowing his past because you honestly think you're a lot better than he is, in the looks department. You must have some type of superiority that you aren't at all concerned with whom he's been with in the past. It should bring up some weirdness, even if you ARE able to "not care" because "it's in the past". But I mean, I don't know you, but you should stop bringing it up or else you'll end up with an unhappy bf soon and maybe no bf at all.
I have an odd curiosity about my husband's past partners. Yet it also makes me upset to think about him sleeping with anyone else. I'm a little odd, I guess.
Sex outside of marriage ALWAYS hurts the people involved. Keep your pants on till you are married.