Friday, 06 January 2012

  • The Villain: Part 2

    I walked away from my relationship because I was pushed off the edge. I wasn't on the edge, I was pushed off it. I'm going to explain briefly how I was pushed off the edge.

    First off it was the cheating. No explanation needed there. And this wasn't the "I assumed that you were cheating because..." crap. No. This was "I found used condoms in your apartment bedroom" kind of thing. So after a long time for myself to think and quite a bit of talking, I gave her a second chance. This was the first time I ever gave a relationship a second chance after being cheated on. Ever. I'm always the type of guy that would just walk away from a girl who cheated.

    The next thing was her excessive partying. In her life, as I have observed, this was the hierarchy of importance: God, family, partying and drinking, me. I came to accept that in time but when she drinks the entire night while I'm away and she doesn't even call or let me know she is okay til late the next day, naturally, a person who cares and loves her like I do will worry.

    On her 21st birthday (a year before we started dating) she got wasted and got taken advantage of by two guys she works with. With this information in mind, I worry a lot about her. Mainly because even I had trouble keeping control of her drinking. And the fact that the people who you trust are often those who would take advantage of you made me think about her safety even more.

    This did not happen just once. But every time she would go out and party, it would always be the same. I asked her to at least let me know when she gets home. There was one point where she even almost lost her engagement ring because she was too drunk. She was lucky enough to have a friend who kept it for her. It was happening so often that I got used to it. And you know it's bad when you start assuming that's what's going to happen anyway so why bother.

    Then there's the emotional blackmailing. Whenever we have an argument, she would always revert to the question "Do you love me?" or "Why do you like hurting my feelings?" As if the question would remedy the fact that she had broken multiple promises she had made.

    At the start of the relationship, she asked me to sever connections with any of my exes and even implied that I should not communicate with my female friend whom I have known for eight years. BUT... when I asked her to stop talking to her ex, she didn't do the same, which eventually led to her cheating on me as I explained above. She would also often imply that she would be committing suicide. Phrases like "Well, I'm trash anyway so this life is not worth living." She used this tactic so much that I began to not take her seriously.

    Whenever we would have arguments and I clearly have a point, she just reverts to childish "button pressing." In other words: she just shoots off stuff to try and piss me off and ignore the main topic. I've been told many times that I should just know how she feels and adjust accordingly... but of course, when I ask the same thing it's never done for me.

    Then there was the chat session with her guy friend. Explicit and a type of conversation I would never have with another woman. But apparently, it's okay for her to do things that she doesn't want me to do.

    These are just some, I repeat: SOME, of the things that really made me frustrated and angry. But I kept my cool and looked at it from a realistic point of view most of the time and eventually found a way to get past it. But it would happen again and she would go back on her word to do or not do certain things. Until the last week of our relationship, she was still talking to her ex after promising me that she would not and after demanding that I would stop talking to my exes at the start of the relationship.

    So now that I have walked away, she's trying to get a hold of me. I don't answer her phone calls, texts, emails, etc. I'm done. I've given her the second chance and she burned it. I'm confronted with voice mails stating how sorry she is while she is crying. Her friends now tell me that I am a douchebag. That I should give her another chance and try to work things out. That I just said I was breaking up with her in the heat of the moment. The problem is, it was not a "heat of the moment" thing. It was the sum of all the frustrations from months of practicing patience and being understanding.

    But like I said: I was no longer on the edge, I was pushed off it already. We humans naturally have a limit and we say "enough is enough."

    I was not going to stay with someone who thinks along this line: "I'm 22, I'm hot. What do you expect? Why should I not party?" And she said exactly that before I pretty much said it was over. As a guy in a relationship, I would never tell a girl that. I would never say that I'm hot so I should party. That line of thinking made me think about how she would be like if we were married or had kids. I didn't want to to wake up to a baby monitor, go to my kid and the kid asks where his/her mom is.

    But naturally, since I'm a guy, I'm an asshole for walking away. They said I'm a jerk for "dumping" her. That I was "running away." That I "did not love her as much as I said I did." In any case, no matter how I explain it, it'll always look like it's my fault. Because the girl is hurt, the guy MUST be a jerk. They don't even ask how the guy feels or how hard it is for him to move on when he came as far as proposing marriage to a woman he really loved and cared for. No, none of those things matter. The girl is hurt, the guy is a jerk and should be bashed.

    Why is it that when a guy says he's had enough, he's viewed as a jerk or something along those lines?

    I'm done.

Comments (23)

  • KevEats@xanga

    "...I gave her a second chance. This was the first time I ever gave a relationship a second chance after being cheated on. Ever. I'm always the type of guy that would just walk away from a girl who cheated."

    Just how many times have you been cheated on?

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    It's the idea that if you place all the blame on the other person, even if you did all the wrong doing, you still try to gather sympathy from everyone who was not aware of what happened in the relationship. If you try to focus all the attention on the other person as the "bad guy," you will be the "victim." I've had it happen to me too. Luckily, people around the relationship were in the loop enough that they knew she was the wrong doer; honestly, who would feel bad for someone who says to their boyfriend that they are going to cheat on him because she was mad at him?


    But, you'll just need to hold your ground and have her realized that she was the one who fucked up, big time. To take her back again would tell her that she can still get away with it.
  • Doitean@xanga

    This girl sounds a lot like my ex-girlfriend.


    To answer your question, it's a double standard that's been around a long time that the guy is always wrong, no matter what. She cheated on you and you left her? "Your such a jerk, she deserves another chance!" whereas if she dumped you, "well, obviously you just weren't good enough for her!"
    Just forget about it and move on with your life, knowing you're better off without her and the people that agree with her.
  • ecksfrias@xanga

    @kev1nccho1@xanga - I've had five serious relationships. All five cheated. I know that you'll just have to take my word for it but it is in fact true. I don't cheat and never will if I enter more relationships in the future. I believe in moral and ethical responsibility and that engaging in another relationship while currently in one is an irresponsible and morally reprehensible thing to do.


    I guess you could say it's a combination of my Filipino background about the importance of monogamy and my own beliefs about being loyal to the person you have committed your feelings to. I don't want to be cheated on so I don't do it. If a relationship is to fail because of me, I can find comfort in knowing that it was not because I was not loyal.

  • GuitarKat93@xanga

    That is the most retarded thing ever. You sound like a great, reliable guy, and she is stupid for doing that to you. And THEN to just place all of the blame on you...ugh. She doesn't deserve you at all. :( I'm sorry. 

  • TheNotoriousGOD@xanga

    if monogamy hasn't worked for you 5 times already, don't you think you should start changing your philosophies in life?

  • LightBlue21@xanga

    @ecksfrias@xanga - lmao sorry but what kind of girls are you going after to get cheated 5/5 times? Lemme in on your secret so I know what kind of people to avoid...

  • LightBlue21@xanga

    and lol "I would never say that I'm hot so I should party." You don't sound like the kind of guy at all. But there's nothing inherently wrong with partying because you're hot, just saying. :]


    Plus she's TWENTY-TWO. Us early 20-year-olds need to live up the life before we settle down and make babies. I love pounding down 5-6 shots with or without my boyfriend and then returning home late to cuddle with him to relax. I'm just saying, there's nothing inherently wrong with drinking and partying up until you start hurting people who care about you.
  • sssecret_x@xanga

    It's not because she's a girl, it's because in these situations, people do not know the significant other's side of the story or point of view. It certainly does not help, either, that the friends are hearing the girlfriends point of view of the situation. I'm sure its's even more twisted than it really is and makes her into the victim, as people naturally do when they are upset over a situation. I'm sorry that this happened to you. You sound like a great guy and you did the right thing. A better girl is waiting for you and you'll find her when the time is right! :)

  • tips@hardestlevel

    It's not just because you're a guy that you are viewed as a jerk when you have had enough and end the relationship. It can pretty much happen to anyone who ends a relationship for any reason. I broke up with my last boyfriend and because I was the one who left him and apparently moved on too fast, I got a shit ton of bullshit for it simply because he played the victim card and had a better sob story.



    Even friends that were closer to me immediately jumped to his side without even talking to me about why we actually broke up. No one really had a clue that I broke up with him because I had enough of his bullshit. They all just listened to his exaggerated and made up whining about how cold I was, that I had already moved on so I must have left him for that other guy, since I must have left him for that other guy I obviously cheated too, and the bullshit just spiraled from there. It was amazing how everything he said was completely false and people just ate that shit up. It's ridiculous how immature people can be. I dropped a lot of those "friends" because of the drama they felt compelled to inject into my life, based on a false one-sided story without even bothering to ask me. You're way better off without people like her and people who are so quick to judge anyway, trust me.
  • superGchik@xanga

    it's bc she's a jerk that's why she's made you the villain.

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    try not to date party girls, who are coincidentally also assholes.


  • kawasaki_saiyan@xanga

    I agreed what @sssecret_x@xanga said. In fact, I've learn and experience this through a seminar.

    All I can say is stop whining about who's the victim/villian, just let it go and live your life. End of story.

  • romeoandrebecca@xanga

    News travels fast among girls, and not of all it can be true. I'm sure she lied about some parts and played "Boo hoo me" and cried. She turned the tables and made it seem like it was your fault. She didn't want to seem pathetic or slutty by her actions, so ultimately, she decided to pull out the victim card and twist around the story. People do that.


    Keep doing what you're doing. Ignore her completely, but don't dwell on this. You learned a lesson, now move on and let your heart heal.

  • scribbles

    It's simple for girls to blame the guy. But I think people fail to see your position. It sucks as hell. I read a post similar to this before and I specifically remember telling the guy; alot of people like dumping the blame on the guy so she doesn't feel guilty.It's a defence mechanism of coping, but one eventually accepts the guy or girl isn't a douche and it simply wouldn't work out. it's not just girl, my verbally abusive ex went around telling our common friends how I'm a whore and how possessive

     I 

    was. You owe no one an explanation as to why you are leaving. Best advice I can give you right take a some time off from dating/relationships. Focus on you and your life (career, hobbies). Keep avoiding her and her friends. I honestly hope you stick to this decision. 

    I really don't know her side of the story and I really don't know in whether you were a good bf or not. We are all simply reading your side of the story. Based on that, you do seem like a good guy and she took that for granted. One day when she matures, starts letting go of her partying ways and wants to settle down she will realize what an amazing guy she missed out on. Hell she probably does. 
  • Statuess

    You stayed for way too long as it is, from the sound of it. Her friends may well stick with her because they feel a duty to, even without her manipulating the situation to make you seem the villain. Just distance yourself from all of them. Live your own life, hopefully not with a girl you need to walk away from (and from your comment about 'always being the type of guy who would walk away if cheated on', maybe you need to look at the type of women you are attracting or are attracted to).

  • sleevelessheart@xanga

    I know it's easier said than done, but don't let it get to you. You let her and her friends win by letting it get to you. Just ignore it and brusIh it off your shoulders. People will soon begin to realize that she is the villain. Your ex gf sounds a LOT like my ex bf. Extremely manipulative, unstable, selfish, neurotic, and extremely negative. Just block her and her friends out of your life. That's the only way things will get better. Don't be the "nice" guy, for once, be that asshole that stands up for yourself. 

  • KevEats@xanga
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  • ecksfrias@xanga

    @LightBlue21@xanga - Well, sad to say that they were all different people. Very different. Like the first one didn't like partying, never drank alcohol, smoked, etc. Very traditional Filipina. The second was kind of the same and was into martial arts and stuff. The third was not a Filipina, she was a caucasian American, born and raised in VA, slightly different values but over all good values. The fourth was raised in TX, extremely religious, a mix of french and samoan. And this last one is Spanish-mexican hertiage whose family, from what I have seen, valued Chritian teachings about monogamy and stuff.


    So it's not like they are all the same. They just all ended up cheating. I guess I am unlucky? Dunno. Never really pondered on why it happens to me I just write them down like this to vent it out rather than bottling it up. It's nice to have negative and positive comments from complete strangers.


    @kev1nccho1@xanga - Uh huh. That's what I said to myself.

  • Ladiiee@xanga

    My motto: "There's always three sides to every story - yours, her's and the truth."

  • calamityjanedoe

    You're being too hard on yourself. Especially by titling this post as "The Villain". Actually, I don't think either of you are villains, but I do think that she needs to see someone, a therapist or even a counselor, or perhaps enter rehab.

    She was/is clearly having some unidentifiable issues from which stemmed her problematic behavior, but it was a strong decision on your part to walk away, and the right one for you. First of all, remind yourself that you TRIED and sometimes, that's all you can do but not enough. She is not in the right state to be in a relationship with you; the two of you are at completely different stages of life. Furthermore, her friends probably only understand her perspective and haven't taken the time to think about your position. It's also a tendency among people to automatically label someone as "the bad guy" when a relationship ends, even if that may not be true. But hey, they aren't your friends, so screw what they think.

    Remind yourself that you gave it your all in this relationship even though it ultimately didn't work out. Try not to dwell on the way the relationship ended and take some time to heal from the breakup.

    *pat pat* It's going to be ok!

  • T0m03@xanga

    You sound like my best friend... Do you happen to be named Steven and that girl happened to be named Stephanie..? Anyway, I don't see you as a jerk. I think you did the right thing. That girl needs to get kicked in the face. 

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