Monday, 05 December 2011
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Is it Over?

This post was submitted anonymously.My boyfriend and I have been dating for a year and three months now. We met 2 years ago at our college because we lived in the same dorm. In the beginning, as most relationships go, things were smooth. Throughout the next few months, there were kinks, but I would always work hard to be strong and positive and work them out. He would try too.
I saw him everyday and we spent hours together. Soon, he was uprooted from my college, as he received a phone call from his parents that they are taking him out of the college he was attending because they weren't happy with his grades and signed him up for a new school. Anyway, more nonsense happened, and he was on the worst terms with his parents that he's ever been in his life. And yes, it is absolutely ridiculous that his parents treat him like he's 10. They're very strict Indian parents who go out of their way to make his life miserable- his mother frequently promises him this.
So long story short, right now he lives alone in his sister's old place, goes to school an hour away, and has no car. The only way I see him is if I come home on the weekends, which I do, and meet up with him. But of course, since he has no car, he can't drive to meet me. I either have to pick him up or he has to take the bus. Granted, he's been doing a great job trying to take the bus whenever he can. On top of that, I have been recommending that he get a job for half a year now. About two months ago, he finally got a job.
I asked him if he could request that he not work the entire weekend, as that is just about the only time I get to see him. They still schedule him on the weekends, even though he claims he's requested this many times. I believe that he's asked, but the reality is still the same.
Finally, I can't come over to the place he is currently living because his parents can pop in at any moment and he's not supposed to ever have people over. They know about me (they've disrespected me on the phone in the past for, seriously, absolutely no reason) but I don't want to meet them right now, and I don't fully know how they feel about meeting me. His mother says different things each time.
I realize his situation with his parents is ridiculously extreme and aside from that, I think our relationship would really have some amazing potential. He does try really hard to make things work (he's finally seeing a counselor after I've been recommending that he see one for months) and he tries to be sweet. But lately, I am more frustrated and less willing to be caring and understanding. I think the problem is that no matter how much he tries to seperate his familial situation from us, it still affects us negatively in tons of ways. He realizes that they're a ridiculously unhealthy part of his life, by the way.
I guess I'm not entirely sure what my next step is? I'm having trouble even picturing a future because I've been so frustrated for so long. It's been a year since I've had to put up with all of this and it's definitely taking its toll.
I guess I am wondering what my next step should be?
The answer may seem obvious, but it's currently distorted for me because I care about him deeply and I know he's a great guy. Any kind, supporting advice would be highly appreciated.
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If he comes from a traditional Indian family, chances are he is going to have an arranged marriage...or at least that may be what his parents want...and it means an Indian girl.
Evaluate your feelings for him. Is it worth it if you stick it out with him? Or are you too frustrated with the situation with his parents that you don't want to stick around? To me, it sounds like it's too much trouble for you. If you think he is worth it, then stay. If not, be patient and help him out. It's your way of showing that you care for him and his well-being.
Thats a really tough situation. I agree that you need to figure out if you think he's worth the work. Maybe meeting the parents won't be that horrible, perhaps they'll like you! Maybe do some volunteer work and present yourself as a really positive influence on their son? hope everything works out!
Have you tried talking to him about how you feel about the whole situation?
But, I do want to tell you a story of my own. I'm in love with a girl that lives 2.5 hours away doing 70-80mph the entire way. Visiting her is exhausting but as soon as I get there and see her smile I'm instantly reminded of why I make the trip. 10, 20 years, or even a week from now, I'm not going to remember the times I was out watching a movie, but I will remember the times I held her hand in mine. No amount of adversity would make her the lesser choice.
If this is the way you two feel about each other, and all your really looking for is support THAN remember college isn't forever. It's 4 years, and it sounds like you've already gotten past the first. So in the next 3 or so years you're both going to graduate, and he's going to get a new place and a car. So stick it out. Things will get better, if you both put in the work.
his family is always going to be there and it's never going to change no matter what. if this is a person you love and see a future with and can't give him up, then you already know what you should do. sometimes you just have to suck it up and live with the good and the bad. when it comes to a lot of asian cultures, not only do you marry their son, you marry his family too when you marry him.
i'm very selective when it comes to dating guys, if i don't like his parents or his family, even though i like him a lot, most of the time, i'll skip him and move on to the next guy. i'm impatient, i don't put up with drama and stupid shit that family pulls so i'm not going put myself in a situation that i can avoid. trust me, i've given up a lot of great guys but as i look at their situations now, i'm glad i'm not the girl they're with bc i don't have that kind of drama in my life.
go to his house. how often do his parents actually "pop" over? also, maybe you guys should see a counselor about this. he's letting his parents ruin his life, but if they're as strict as you're saying they are (and I believe it...) then it doesn't look like they'll ever let go, and he seems to just keep doing what he wants and allowing them to rule his life.
Like @superGchik@xanga
said, when you choose to enter into a relationship, especially a long
term and serious relationship in many Asian cultures, you enter into a
relationship with the person and his/her family. I suggest you try to
look at this through the perspective of cultural understanding.
I
apologize for this but, I don't think you have a right to complain about
his family. You've never met them and you only know things about them
from your boyfriend. Regardless of what they say about you, you have to
understand that they were doing what they think is best for him. If he
listens to them (however grudgingly) then that's his decision.
In
addition, the way you write about him makes him seem like someone who
complies with the wishes of others (ex. moving schools, seeing a
therapist after you telling him to see one, getting a job after your
recommendation). Maybe you should ask him what his wishes are and try to
comply?
Being Indian, born and brought up in the Midwest, with relatively strict, conservative, South Indian parents, I will agree that this is a tough situation. I disagree with JanuaryStarr@xanga, however, that all Indian parents will favor an arranged marriage. I have participated in and listened to frequent discussion with other Indian parents regarding Arranged Marriages. There are some parents who are much more understanding than others. They realize that the society and many of the circumstances that favored arranged marriages are no longer relevant today. That said it often becomes a debate about American culture and Indian culture. Somethings that I have learned-- Divorce almost isn't an option, and only under rare circumstances. Marriage is not seen as the union of two people, but rather, of two families.
I have no authority to assess your situation. However, most Indian parents ultimately want the best for their children. When they are unhappy, they try to make sure their children know that they are unhappy, and they make you feel guilty for it. (Story of my life...)You both have to decide for yourself how willing you are to struggle and fight for your relationship. Communicating with each other is key.Another thing... if his parents aren't happy with you, don't take it personally. Hurting you might be a way to hurt your boyfriend. If they are not happy with him, it might take time before they warm up to you. In any marriage, (and definitely arranged marriage), making sure that the other person has a good career is just as important as making sure they are a good person.
Realize what you want for yourself.All the best!
Yikes... Coming from an Indian background I know how hard this is, considering my one and only relationship was terminated and my parents had a hand in that.
What you have to understand about us is that family usually always dictates what you do in life. Granted, boys always have it easier than girls do with their parents so I'm not sure how hard your boyfriend is trying... But I think it's a bit selfish of you to give up now even if you do have every right to do so. If you think he's a great guy then stick with him! Because after all, love and relationships are never easy. In the mean time, tell your boyfriend to man up to his parents, because if he can't, then there's probably no hope of a future for you two (Since his parents seem to have mixed feelings about you).
Family always > everything else. I'm not Indian, but I like to think I stay as traditional as possible with relationships and if my parents don't like a guy he is without a doubt out of my life as as romantic partner. Like another comment said above, marriage is between two families and not just two people. It's much easier if you and his family get along than for you to have to "deal with" people for the rest of your life. They probably see you as a distraction for him. Personally in your situation, I would take a break from him to show his family that you respect the same values they do and then once he has his feet on the ground come back.
You are the girl friend from hell and sooner or later he is going to wise up and dump you.
Everything is all about you.
If it weren't for his parents or the fact that he works (something you demanded of him and then turned around and criticized him for) you'd find some other problem with him.
You're a ruthless, self-centered nag.
And the young man is going to thank his parents one day for getting him away from you.
His family will always be in his life. I can guarantee you that. If you can't deal with it, move on.
If he had maintained his grades, maybe he wouldn't be in the situation that he is in now.
You should have a serious talk with him and tell him to either get his shit together and learn some independence, or you'll find someone who does. And most people commenting are so so so wrong about the family situation. He's in America, he doesn't have to include his family in ANYTHING if he doesn't want to. It's his life, not theirs. In fact, if they are such an unhealthy part of his life, he has every right to cut them off completely and have nothing to do with them.
@aftershejumped@xanga - I totally agree with you on the compliant part.
It seems to me what this guy needs to do is not be in a relationship right now. He's in college and has a lot of stuff going on. He was getting poor grades, he has a job, had to start at a new school, he has family issues, and now he needs counseling. I don't think he's in the right state to handle a relationship and be fully committed to you as well.
You should definitely ask him what he wants.
Here's another opinion from an Indian girl, among the others that you've already gotten haha.
If you truly see a future with this person, you have to deal with his family since it is extremely important in any marriage. Especially in the Indian culture. You just need to decide how important this relationship is to both of you.
In my experience, I've had a boy in my life for more than two years but I just can't introduce him to my parents because he's not Indian. (If you're not, maybe that's the reason they're so hostile toward you?) So I don't think we'll ever marry since my family means too much to me and he knows that. I love him and he's such a great guy, but he doesn't deserve to be in a 2+ year relationship especially when it won't really go anywhere.
But like I said, you just need to figure out where you two stand and go from there.
it seems to me as if his parents are trying to push him to be independent rather than the other way. they pulled him out of one school because he wasn't doing well (which is his fault. he knew how his parents were and he still slacked), and now they're having him live on his own and fend for himself. they may be strict, but clearly they're not out to ruin his life. and ultimately, this training period will probably be better for yall's relationship.
i understand that you want to be with him, but i think you should give him space. dont tell him to request time off or schedule changes when he just got the job, that'll make him look unreliable. let him adjust to his situation and be supportive and encouraging. maybe once he's found his niche in school and his work, his parents will be happier, and in turn he'll be able to give more attention to yall's relationship as well. if you want a better relationship with his parents, you ought to take the initiative to meet them, and instead of criticizing them try to understand where they're coming from and why they have their opinions. hopefully once they see that you're putting in efforts towards his whole family and not just him, they'll start meeting you halfway.
I think it's time for a serious talk with the boyfriend.
I'm going to piggyback on some of the comments about understanding the culture and add this: a lot of Asian cultures stress the importance of family over individual. As an Indian, I can tell you that Indian parents are meddlesome as hell but they think, say, and do what do they do because they love and care for their children. They want only the best for them. Some parents are conservative, some are progressive, and most are in between, in my opinion. Most Indian parents are immigrants; they were born, raised, and lived in India so whatever type of mentality their parents and culture passed on to them is what they absorb. Coming from a poor country, the BIG emphasis is on getting a good education so you can get a good job and make money. This goal is everything to Indian parents, to see their children make successes of themselves so they don't have to experience the hardship and struggles their parents did. Just because Indian parents are meddlesome doesn't mean they're necessarily helicopter parents. In addition to education, they stress the importance of independence and self-sufficiency because in their experience, the fastest way to get screwed over is by depending on someone else. Based on what you've written and other users' comments, I'd have to agree that your boyfriend's parents are trying to make a man out of him but they may not be so successful now because of excessive coddling/giving into demands when he was younger. At the same time, your boyfriend has been raised in the "family is all" culture and when you go against your parents' wishes, there will be arguments, sometimes rational, other times not so much. Guilt and/or shame play fairly significant roles in Asian cultures. You're an American and Americans have been raised on ideals of individualism, personal freedom, "you don't like it, change it or leave," etc. so a lot of times Americans don't understand and/or are routinely frustrated by Asian households. This is why! You need to understand where his parents are coming from because they will always be a part of his life. You're trying to distance him from his family so that he can spend time with you. You told him to get a job because he needs independence and experience but you turn around and wail because his time is limited with school and other activities so he works weekends. You say you're doing all of these things to help him grow as a person but to me, it just sounds like you're deliberately undermining his relationship with his family so that you can have him all to yourself. Not only that, you're trying to run his life for him by telling him how he should run it. It comes down to this: you need to talk to him and see if he's happy with the relationship. I think your boyfriend needs time to himself for a while, figure out who he is on his own pace without being torn apart by his girlfriend and parents. IF YOU MAKE HIM CHOOSE, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE HE WILL CHOOSE THEM OVER YOU. If you want to make this work, not out of guilt or time/energy already spent but out of genuine feeling for him and potential for the two of you, you need to start a dialogue with everyone involved - yourself, him, and his parents. It doesn't sound to me like you've tried; you just complain about them and a whole host of other things. Direct, honest communication, confrontation, if I may, seems to be an American thing so why don't you utilize that instead of this passive aggression?
I don't know how his Indian parents are but I'm Pakistani and our cultures are similar in the marriage and parental ways.
Parents are almost always super bearing and never let go. Out of all my Indian friends; who don't have an Indian gf they freak out and are really hard on their kids.
I agree with most of what books8137 is saying especially about making him choose. Because he most likely will choose them over you.
If you want this relationship to work. I would suggest you talk to him and ask him where you see this going.
I wish you good luck :)