Tuesday, 29 November 2011
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Friendzoned Females
Men in our lives fall into different relationship categories: boyfriends, sex partners, just friends, mentors, etc. But one category I seem to be encountering a lot lately is the almost-boyfriend friend category, and I hate it! While guys think they are always the ones being friendzoned, it is a common fate for the female population as well.
It usually begins with all the good signs of a relationship. A man asks you to hang out with him - perhaps dinner, perhaps drinks. You guys have amazing conversational chemistry and you feel comfortable with him. He sometimes pays for these drinks or dinner and sometimes he escorts you home. He's good at texting and setting up the next hangout, and you start to hope maybe he's the one!! That is, until the above steps repeat over and over and over for as long as a year with no progress, and you finally give up and move to another country or find another man.
When I encounter this sort of situation, I find myself developing characteristics of the male species. I try to be charming. I try to steer the conversation to risque topics. I try to get them drunk and rid them of their inhibitions (don't worry, I have yet to date rape anyone). I try to get them back to my place. Of course these strategies all fail, as I suppose guys don't fall for these.
Take the example of my friend we'll call Rick from some years ago (though in our 20s, so this is not just us being innocent!). We were always together - catching lunch together, cooking together, passing notes to each other in class, sharing all our secrets and feelings about our classmates. He was a handsome and popular boy and all the girls in school wanted him, but he picked me to hang out with! However, things didn't always work so well.
When I asked him out for dinner, hoping to make a move, he brought his friend. I could also never get him in a setting with alcohol. Maybe we were just good friends, but I felt like he treated me differently from his guy friends. The final turning point came half a year into our friendship when he decided to crash at my place after a concert and the trains were all stopped. At first, I was on my twin bed and he was in a sleeping bag on the floor. As the night progressed and both of us were not falling asleep, he suddenly moved up to my bed next to me.
We just laid there, neither of us able to sleep until morning the next day. The whole night my heart was beating rapidly and I was so conscious of my breathing, my swallowing, the way I was lying. But to my disappointment, nothing happened, and I decided after that night to give up on him. In the next couple of months, I ended up having sex with his less interesting best male friend, while he ended up having sex with my less interesting best female friend, both lackluster flings that went nowhere.
I am now stuck in this rut again and dreading it. I have been going out with a guy from my department for dinner or drinks about each week for three months, and recently we went out to the movies together. He equally reciprocates our hanging out and text messaging, and he buys me drinks, is attentive to what I say, and sometimes makes physical contact (a touch on the hand here, a pat on the shoulder there). But we never bring up the subject of our romantic lives, he never makes a move, he never tries to go up to my room, and there is a tenseness that prevents us from going past the friendzone.
I have tried to be inviting or steer the conversation in the right direction, but it always fails. And each time I relax into satisfaction with just his friendship, I suddenly get re-romanticized from a potential sign of his interest, which eventually fades until another sign later appears.
What does it mean when a guy friendzones a girl? Is that his intention, or could there be something else that prevents him from making the next move? And what can a girl do to either understand his feelings or bring them out? I just hope I can get out of the zone alive this time around.
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Maybe you should just ask him what his intentions are, when it's a comfortable time to bring it up. Just start the conversation with: "So, what are we doing here? Are we friends? Is there something else?" Is possible that these guys just see you as a friend and that's why they feel comfortable enough to sleep in your bed, for example, but that doesn't mean that they like you more than that. I still think the best thing to do in this case is to just be straight and ask them point-blank.
Well, one major detail you left out was if you ever said anything to him about you liking him? There comes a point when maybe both of you are thinking the same thing, but are afraid of "pushing it too far in fears that the other person might not feel the same way." So, next time, just ask.
I met one of my girl friends at the school we went to. We were in the same classes and we usually hang out in groups to have lunch or just talk. About a month or so after we met, she told me that she wanted to tell me something, but didn't have the guts to. I had a feeling of what it was, but told her to tell me anyways. She confirmed my guess and told me she liked me, but just didn't really want to date. And while she was a great friend, I wasn't attracted to her so I told her that exact truth. We still hung out and we still talk. And sometimes, you just have to take risks. Those who truly find you as a great person will still continue to be your friend, even if you admit to them you like them and yet they honestly tell you they aren't attracted to you in that way. Just know if you don't want to drive yourself crazy, don't be afraid to initiate first.
Wait, what?
I must say, you are the first girl I've ever heard of getting friend-zoned. Congratulations on that, I guess?
Anyway, on to the post. I would guess their reasons for friend-zoning you depend on the guy. Maybe they are worried about losing your friendship, or maybe you're misreading innocent things as signs of interest. And, of course, there's always the possibility they just want you to make the first move.
I know, you said you try to be more charming and risque in these situations... but you had Rick in your bed and didn't make a move. All of your attempts to "get them drunk and rid them of their inhibitions ... get them back to my place" don't matter much if you can't close the deal when they're in bed with you!
Try being a little more forward with this guy. Instead of waiting for him to try to go up to your room, just invite him up. There's no need to be coy :)
I don't think I ever heard of that! @Doitean@xanga - I know! I'm not coy, that's silly
You know, sometimes you gotta go for it. Sometimes the guy is too shy or afraid to make a move because society has gone and basically neutered men and taken all their confidence. Try to go in for a kiss and see what happens.
Have you tried cuddling? Spooning? Coming right out and saying it? It's cool that they like to hang out with you, though!
Instead of approaching this guy, like a guy would to get a girl, you should just be yourself. Are you more likely to steer the conversation to a risque topic or another to get shock or more attention from the guy you're hanging out with? Have you ever just asked, "hey, are you single?" And if that's the case, in the "wooing" approach, maybe YOU should ask HIM out if the answer to the question happens to be "Yeah, I'm single." The problem with your Rick situation is that maybe, he wasn't getting a confirmation from you either. Maybe he was feeling that you were friendzoning HIM and he didn't want to make it awkward. Or maybe, he just thought you were a cool chick to hang with and didn't want to foil that up by sleeping with you. Anyway, before THIS new guy becomes another Rick episode, you should DO something to clear the air and make your intentions known!
I too have been friendzoned once or twice before in my late teens (18-19) and I think it's worse when you go from "female friend"zoned to "you are like a sister!" At least you can try to become an attractive female friend that one day open his eyes to how really great you are~ but you can't bounce from being "sister-zoned" to date. It's just weird. O_o
You had him in your bed and everything! Make the move! I'm telling you, it'll work out to your benefit. It did for me in the past.
are you good looking and have lots of sex appeal? if not, maybe he didn't make a move due to that...he wasn't attracted to you enough to have a fling with.
Welcome to my world. I am ALWAYS in the friend or sister zone. Quite frankly, it sucks.
Meh, rather be friend zoned than be "do we have to put a label on it/I'm not really looking for a relationship"'d
anthony has friendzoned me so hard. He knows I fancy him. :(
I have been friendzoned/sisterzoned with every boy I've ever been friends with. I so feel your pain.
dude. just put your hand down his pants and the rest will be history. i didn't realize this was that complicated.
I don't know, but I'm thinking if he hasn't kissed you by now he doesn't want to. But to be sure, why not just ask. He could be dying to make a move but not wanting to "mess up the friendship". Which IMO is a total cop out. If two people are mature enough they can handle the friendship if one develops a crush. Good Luck! I say to just ask.
to me if a guy friendzones a girl, it just means the same when a girl friendzones a guy.
how about you stop whining and start taking initiative.
psh, I'm like this with most females. (most of us real men are. not boys).
We see females as other people, the whole gender thing doesn't really play a big role, i take females i'm interested in as friends out for dinner and a chat. its a good way to get to know someone, and is not something guys do to get to know each other (we play basketball or something)
From our perspective we aren't out to have sex or get with a girl. So if you are interested in us for a relationship, you seriously just have to be dead honest about it, and be ready to be okay with friendship... you have to understand all the flirting and beating around the bush mess is for dating and childishness. If you come across a Man(and age doesn't make a man) be ready to get serious. Be friends first then if you want something more to the relationship let him know with literal words.
Hope this helps you all.
I know EXACTLY how you feel. You're not the only one! I'm constantly friendzoned. It sucks. I've just given up. But I never get as far as dinner or drinks or whatever, so at least you're ahead of me.
Wow. It kind of makes me feel a tiny bit better to hear it happens to girls too, haha.
i always get friendzoned. Not cool!
Sounds like you were too available. What kind of guys play these games anyways...not worth it.
Maybe he's just afraid of commitment. I mean some guys ARE terrified of commitment..
I know this one guy who friendzoned me, and clearly told me that he's interested in me, just not a relationship at the moment =/Props to doo-rag dude
There is no such thing as a "friend" zone. There are only people who aren't interested in other people romantically.