Wednesday, 02 November 2011

  • Daughter Is Beaten for Pirating Music and Games + Dissecting Corporal Punishment


    Aransas County Court-At-Law Judge William Adams took a belt to his own teenage daughter as punishment for using the Internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time. She has had ataxic cerebral palsy from birth that led her to a passion for technology, which was strictly forbidden by her father's backwards views. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video.

    The judge's wife has since left the marriage due to the abuse, which continues to this day, and has sincerely apologized and repented for her part and for allowing such a thing, long before this video was even revealed to exist. Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgement as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. His "judgement" is a giant farce

    -Signed, Hillary Adams, his daughter.

    That about says it all, and is the description that the victim used for her YouTube video which was captured in 2004. The video may evoke anger among other strong feelings, but I'm going to shift my focus away from this specific video to better discuss the act.

     

    Dissecting Corporal Punishment

    The ethics and efficacy of corporal punishment have long been debated by parents with differing views; more specifically, it's a battle between tradition and psychoanalytic research. With advancements in our understanding of psychology, we're more easily able to understand a person's behaviors and motivations. In other words, what people do and why they do it.

    Since at least the 17th century, Americans have been strongly in favor of using physical punishment to keep children in line and get compliance. There has been a slow and steady decline over the last 40 years, but the majority is still in favor of spankings which are legal across all states (schools being the exception in some areas). So what has empirical data revealed?

    To keep it short and simple, corporal punishment has only been shown to produce immediate compliance. Often parents are frustrated and want obedience on command, so their solution is to flog the child because it's a method that works in the short-term. However, studies indicate that the long-term effects can include a delinquent lifestyle, anti-social behavior, depression, and aggression (bullying, as an example).

    According to The American Academy of Pediatrics, "Corporal punishment is of limited effectiveness and has potentially deleterious side effects. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that parents be encouraged and assisted in the development of methods other than spanking for managing undesired behavior." So if effective disciplinary alternatives to corporal punishment exist, why hasn't The United States ratified the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child? It's an international treaty which specifically forbids the use of mental and physical violence. (See: Article 19)

    You don't see managers beating their employees for overcooking fries or spilling a Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet'N Low, One Nutrasweet, and Ice. You know what would happen if a manager were to do that? He would get served a lawsuit. You have to ask yourself: Why is it legal to discipline a young child for bad behavior or mistakes in this manner, then? If you wouldn't hit a stranger, why your son or daughter?

    It's really common for some to bring up the fact that they were beaten and "turned out fine." But what is this saying, exactly? It isn't a testament to the miracles only made possible by your parents when they gave you good, hard spankings. It means you turned out fine despite the hitting. America isn't being "pussified" as some like to claim. You say you had it worse as if it were some sort of badge of honor? Please.

    Trying to make some sense out of this, I looked at a few possible triggers which may turn an otherwise good parent, into a belt-wielding barbarian.

    1. The parent was also beaten as a child.

    2. Economic and marital hardships which induce stress and diminish patience.

    3. Due to their religious beliefs or country of origin, it's possible that they may feel it's tradition and a proper action to take.

    4. Alcohol abuse.

    5. Pure anger and resentment.

    None of these are valid reasons or excuses, and an adult with children should show some restraint.

    Let me tell you a little about my own experiences with physical punishment.


    I was quite a mischievous kid, always getting myself into some sort of trouble and running around the streets of New York in my large, tinted shades and pink short shorts. I was a mere four years old, so my parents were dictators when it came to the outfits I'd sport. It was 1990, so don't feel too bad. As much of a little troublemaker as I was, very rarely did I ever talk back or get cocky with my givers of life.

    I was all about balls. Balls of all shapes, sizes and colors. Tennis balls, basketballs, baseballs, golf balls, my own balls, you name it. I would constantly use one inside the house, perhaps playing catch with plain, beige walls or tossing it up against the ceiling. Needless to say, I broke quite a few things. Most notably, a mirror and two or three light bulbs. Nothing too fancy. Oh, how I would regret those instances.

    Without fail, my father would rage and the very flames of hell would rise up from the floor he walked on. I could hear the jingly sound of a belt buckle, and I knew what was coming. Lash after lash against my bare legs, back and smacks across the head. They were strong enough to leave marks and bruises on my skin, and the more I cried, the harder he would hit.

    "If you don't quit crying, I'm going to beat you until you do."

    What was I to do? I was afraid of this man, and the anticipation of the pain alone made me weep. How could I stop crying? I would often push my face against a pillow in an attempt to suppress the tears and the girlish, 4-year-old screams. Eventually, he would calm down and leave my room, making sure to slam the door so I knew he meant business. On top of that, I would get grounded and couldn't play Super Metroid or Yoshi's Island for weeks. I grew up along with the physical punishment, and it only came to an end when I turned 14.

    My mother had a thing for pulling my ears and making me kneel against a wall for an hour sometimes, but she would occasionally make my ears jingle just like my father. However, she showed more constraint and eventually abandoned the art of making little boys cry as she became more religious. There's one particular phase in my pre-teen and early teen years which I'll never forget.

    I wanted to grow my hair. I was tired of having the same, boring short hair. I wanted to abandon my stupid Old Navy shirts and sweat pants which I accidentally peed on in class on more than one occasion. There was a slight problem, though: My parents absolutely loathed the idea of me having a longer hairstyle. In my mother's case, it wouldn't be decent enough to show off in front of the brothers and sisters at her Jehovah's Witness meetings. In my father's case, he didn't want me to be a fag. "I'm straight as an asylum jacket," I explained. "What does hair length have to do with one's sexual orientation?"

    There was no getting through to him. I rebelled like a typical teenager, and let it grow anyway. Despite the constant anger and demands to go to the barber shop, I resisted. I resisted, until it became physical. On one particular Sunday afternoon, my father had decided he was tired of the charades. I locked myself in my bedroom, latch and all. He continuously knocked and threatened me as I remained still, hoping he would give up and leave.

    Suddenly, I hear what sounds like a body slamming full-force against my door. I locked myself in the closet behind a couple of old suitcases and stray t-shirts. Each successive ram grew louder, until the wooden door cracked open and the latch gave way. He immediately opened the closet door and grabbed me by the hair, dragging me out of my bedroom and beating me into submission. What a fucking terrible haircut that was.

     

    My dad acted out of sheer anger and a lack of patience. His trigger was me undermining his authority. Did it work? Yeah, he was successful every time. Fear was being correlated with obedience. But as previously mentioned, it only worked temporarily, and I soon grew to become even more distant from my family. Post-whippings, my father all but gave up and quit talking to me altogether. My mother adopted a better, more effective method of discipline which didn't involve violence. Even if I was still being punished for petty things, I was relieved.

    While my "beatings" were on the heavier side, an argument is made about the severity of corporal punishment and the fine line between justified punishment and clear abuse. Is there really a difference and does it matter?

    Yes, a difference does exist. A well-intentioned spanking followed by a coherent explanation on why it had to be administered is on a completely different level compared to say... a parent unleashing his anger and putting fear in the heart of his child. If we look at some definitions, it's interesting to note the differences and similarities.

    Physical Punishment: "The use of physical force with the intention of causing a child to experience bodily pain or discomfort so as to correct or punish the child's behavior."
    Physical Abuse: "The infliction of physical injury as a result of punching, beating, kicking, biting, burning, shaking, or otherwise harming a child."

    Does it mean that one is okay, and the other isn't? Or are they both wrong? They're similar, but one is an act of greater culpability. However, the existence of physical abuse doesn't absolve the act of lesser culpability, being physical punishment.

    While I don't find mild, well-intentioned physical punishment to be wrong per se, I do suggest using other methods. It's silly to use violence at all when there's evidence suggesting negative long-term effects. So what other methods can parents use?


    1.
    Positive reinforcement is a great tool which can provide long-lasting effects. You reward the child for good behavior and when they meet certain expectations. It'll boost their self-esteem.

    2. Simply be a good example! While television and outside influences play a role in the development of a child, ultimately, you're the parent and you'll be around them more than anyone else. If you don't have your head on straight and can't provide a positive example for your children, how can you expect them to take you seriously? In some cases, they'll even adopt the negative behavior and bad habits, such as violence.

    3. Use words, not actions. Let the child express him or herself, and really listen. Don't interrupt them or shoot them down; let them communicate. "If a child would verbalize his feelings, he would learn to delay action." - Anny Katan. This would help to regulate tension. Make sure to explain yourself as well, so the child knows where you're coming from.

    4. Consistency is important because you want to set limits and remain clear. Don't make empty threats; instead, stick to your word. This will help the child learn appropriate behavior.

    5. If they whine or throw a temper tantrum, simply ignore it. This is a form of negative attention seeking. This doesn't mean that you should always ignore your child, but if you respond to this negative behavior, they're going to keep using it because they know it works and gets your attention. Instead, ask questions and show a genuine interest in their life and day-to-day activities. Be their buddy.

    6. Redirect their misbehavior. Let them know what the more effective and correct manner to achieve things is. It's possible that the child doesn't know any other way to get what they want, so immediately punishing them may do more harm than good. Aim to teach them before taking any further action.

    7. Always keep your cool, and remain in control of your emotions.

    There are many other suggestions, but that's a pretty good start.

     

    There's really no reason to use corporal punishment on your child with so many available resources explaining alternative methods. Why take the risk of potentially damaging your children psychologically? Resorting to violence is a coward's way out of taking the time to really connect and understand children. Having experienced the bitter end of it, I've decided that my future children are going to live without the fear and shame that comes with a raised hand and a misused belt.

    What's your stance on corporal punishment? Do you/will you practice it on your kids?

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Comments (93)

  • TheMushyPear@xanga

    "To keep it short and simple"

    um...

  • AsylumBlue

    @TheMushyPear@xanga - That specific snippet not the entire post, silly.

  • enoughtodiefor@xanga

    I was spanked occasionally growing up, and I don't think it did me any harm, honestly. If I chose to spank my children, I'd just want to make sure that my husband and I held each other accountable that the spanking was never done in anger, because I think that's what makes it abuse. I do think there are some kids that, at times, you can't get through to any other way. And at the same time, there are kids that spanking only has bad effects on. It has to be case-by-case.

  • just_the_average_jane@xanga

    I hate when people say "I was spanked and I turned out fine" --after all, we'll never know what you might have been like if you hadn't been spanked.  Why would you risk it?

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    Well, I was disciplined when I was younger (it would also help to mention that I am Chinese and grew up with a pretty traditional father). I deserved it since I would do pretty bad things, like break objects around the house or lie or not do my homework when I was told to.I was also given the ear-pull treatment. I understood that it was discipline because he never did it out of anger.


    Honestly, I believe that under very certain conditions that physical discipline is needed. One of the main examples I can think of is when your child throws a tantrum in a public place. Trying not to respond to their negative behavior while everyone stares you down as your child is knocking over displays is pretty hard to do (I understand that that might be a very extreme exaggeration, but it can and does happen). I agree with your list of more non-physical ways to deal with misbehaving children. Sometimes, you can do all these things and your kid can still act out. What do you do then? (That's a general question looking for a response). 
    What people should also understand is that families come from different generations and traditions. For some families, spanking is possibly the most effective form of discipline. The spanking won't leave bruises or scars (physically), but it reinforces the idea that the kid needs to stay in line. And sometimes, yes, it can cause emotional trauma to the child when they grow up, which we wouldn't want either. 
    For me, I would definitely use a lot less physical discipline on my children and try more verbal (like explanation and use of understanding). 
  • laytexduckie@xanga

    Well, I was disciplined when I was younger (it would also help to mention that I am Chinese and grew up with a pretty traditional father). I deserved it since I would do pretty bad things, like break objects around the house or lie or not do my homework when I was told to.I was also given the ear-pull treatment. I understood that it was discipline because he never did it out of anger.


    Honestly, I believe that under very certain conditions that physical discipline is needed. One of the main examples I can think of is when your child throws a tantrum in a public place. Trying not to respond to their negative behavior while everyone stares you down as your child is knocking over displays is pretty hard to do (I understand that that might be a very extreme exaggeration, but it can and does happen). I agree with your list of more non-physical ways to deal with misbehaving children. Sometimes, you can do all these things and your kid can still act out. What do you do then? (That's a general question looking for a response). 
    What people should also understand is that families come from different generations and traditions. For some families, spanking is possibly the most effective form of discipline. The spanking won't leave bruises or scars (physically), but it reinforces the idea that the kid needs to stay in line. And sometimes, yes, it can cause emotional trauma to the child when they grow up, which we wouldn't want either. 
    For me, I would definitely use a lot less physical discipline on my children and try more verbal (like explanation and use of understanding). 
  • Murphy_Rants@xanga

    I don't think it works. I just don't. I understand that many parents think spanking is appropriate. I'm not saying it's 100% wrong but I think it's much better to RESPECT your child and stop treating them as being "beneath you" or teach them that you are "someone to be feared." It's never OK to hit your spouse to discipline them, but hitting a child is OK? 

    I was one of the Redditors up last night till about 11PM sending the hell out of this story to local offices, news stations, and on my blog. I made phone calls. There were so many things wrong with the level of punishment Hillary received. First of all, the offense was so minor. She downloaded music. Yeah, it's illegal. But, wouldn't it make more sense to take her computer privileges away? Why would any parent immediately jump to the "beat the shit out of you with a belt for 7 minutes" before trying anything else to correct the behavior. Second of all, she was 16 at time. She's not some stupid child. Why wouldn't a parent first SPEAK with their almost adult child on an equal level? If she as I quote should, "bend over and take it like an adult woman," than why not reason with her on an intellectual level?

    Mostly, it was sickening the way they were speaking to her. "Bend over and take it like a grown woman." "I will beat you into submission." "You don't deserve to be in this fucking house." And what angered me to most was how after two minutes of beating her he came back in with a different belt and said, "Now, I didn't get my lick in," and beats her for several more minutes. He enjoyed it. Any parent I've known who used spanking as discipline usually felt really rotten about it. This bastard enjoyed it.

    There's a line between discipline and abuse. Now, I know lots of people get old fashioned "southern" beatings but the words that came out of his mouth assured me that this was abuse.

    Yes, Hillary committed a crime many people have, but I still stand up for her. I hope her father gets all the help he needs and I hope all the family does too. But, I hope he gets out of the judges chair too because his stances against child abuse in his court not surprisingly, favor child abusers.

  • Aletheas_Unspoken_words@xanga

    Wow that video was nuts. I think this judge should get a belt to the face for hitting his daughter like that. My parents never used a belt on me, I got my but slapped a few times but that was it. With my kids I hardly EVER and I mean EVER slap their but, I normally put them in a corner for 2 minutes and most of the time my kid is talking away and trying to play with his dog lol. That was child abuse and one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

  • starcrossedloversdivine@xanga

    So, I am actually pretty impressed at your behavioral knowledge, while you kept the post pretty down to earth for the non-behaviorally-obsessed people. I'm in an applied behavior analysis grad program so I just totally geeked out on this post.

    I am really quite opposed to punishment as a treatment for problem behaviors, but it is unfortunately the quickest method for eliminating problem behavior. The issue is that people give out warnings and "ramp-up" the punishment, which makes the problem behavior stronger over time. Another problem that people don't get is that punishment, especially physical, has a side-effect of respondent aggression. I think, though, that the worst problem with punishment is that for it to be effective long-term, it must be carried out forever. I work with a person with severe aggressive behaviors who was once on a contingent shock treatment at another facility... let me just say that in my opinion, if she had never been on that shock treatment plan, behaviors would not be as intense as they are today. 

  • DelicateBabyDoll@xanga

    To hit a kid, is just wrong. You don't teach a kid to hit to get what you want. You teach them
    with guidance and positive reinforcement. The video was very upsetting and saddening. And
    something needs to be done about this.

  • starcrossedloversdivine@xanga

    @laytexduckie@xanga - In my experience with autistic children (who do things like throw tables at me when they are tantruming), it's best to just block any property destruction from occurring and ignore the behavior the best you can at the same time. Sure, it's super embarrassing to have a screaming child in Target, but in the long run, ignoring them sends the point home that no, you're not getting what you want, and you're not getting my attention until you're behaving appropriately.

  • eatdrinkandbemaryy@xanga

    oh my god.  i can't even get past 5 seconds of the beating...

  • lonewolfette@xanga

    "Take it like a grown woman" ... -_-.

    I don't even want to think about it, because I get so teary-eyed lol, but I was pretty much beaten throughout my childhood up until a few years ago. My dad would never lay a hand on me, but it was always my mom. I understood at times that she did it to discipline me, but most of the time I hated her for it because it seemed like she was doing it out of pure anger. If I have kids in the future, I wouldn't want to put them through what I had to deal with.

  • enoughtodiefor@xanga

    @just_the_average_jane@xanga - I didn't say "I turned out fine" I said "I don't think it did me any harm." In other words it's not about the eventual outcome, it's about how it affected me at the time.

    some people disciplining their kids at all, even just verbally, is harmful to the child. Why would you risk it? because sometimes it's necessary to do what's best for him/her.

  • a_single_raindrop@xanga

    I couldn't even get through the video. :( 

  • Hinase@xanga

    Spanking is not my first option but rather my last in disciplining a child. I give verbal warnings, time outs before going that drastic measure. I think every child should be dealt with case by case instead of generally. 




  • just_the_average_jane@xanga

    @enoughtodiefor@xanga - That wasn't specific to you, btw; I would've used the reply function if it was.  But anyhow, as the OP points out, there is very little evidence that spanking does anything beneficial, but plenty of evidence that it might do harm.  The OP didn't mention it, but there have also been studies correlating spanking (especially spanking that continued in older children) with changes in brain volume and lower IQ relative to unspanked peers.  So the risk analysis for corporal punishment doesn't seem to work out in favor of spanking most of the time. 

    I do recognize that the arguments are not perfectly clear cut though.  My parents suggested that sometimes, you need to use corporal punishment on very young children who are too young to understand, but nonetheless are capable of getting into dangerous situations --basic operant conditioning to keep them from doing potentially dangerous things.  It wouldn't be punishment for doing things that were wrong, since they're too young to understand right vs wrong --but it would be a deterrent from doing things that were dangerous. 

    So then it becomes a matter of weighing the risk of harm through corporal punishment against the risk of that behavior that you're trying to curb, and whether or not you can take enough preventative action (eg childproofing) to negate the latter risk without resorting to the former.  I'm still not a fan, but that makes more sense to me since it's not an attempt to use physical punishment to instill moral/ethical values (eg spanking a kid for lying seems entirely ludicrous to me; spanking a toddler to scare him from rushing into traffic is more justifiable, though not ideal).

    I'm not sure what justification could be provided for physical punishment of older children though.  If they're old enough to understand, then there's really no reason to use an unpleasant physical stimulus as a deterrent as if they were an animal.

  • sunflowersforlove@xanga

    Ugh that was really hard to watch. My parents spanked me before, but it was usually just one or two and then that was it. My parents would usually warn me or ground me first. I can't really even recall ever being spanked, but my parents have told me before. I don't see anything wrong with that occasionally happening, but beating your kid in any way is wrong. Spanking is one thing, but it goes overboard when you do it too hard, with an object, or violently. 

  • canadiansrock@xanga

    i couldn't watch that... =( the fact that it happens sickens me...

  • Kill_GaryLarson@xanga

    That makes me sick just to watch that and listen to her scream.  I hope she is out that situation now.

  • redphoenix23@xanga

    I couldn't finish watching the video...I was pretty much beaten throughout my childhood up until a few years ago. My dad would never lay a hand on me (he always said a man should never hurt a woman), but it was always my mom. I understood that she means to discipline me, but most of the time, I saw it as an excuse to let out her anger or to scapegoat me (she still does the scapegoating, and I've always assumed its because he hated me since she tend to do it to me much more than my sister so our relationship is complicated [love/hate thing]). When I have kids, I wouldn't want to put them through what I had to deal with. I will use verbal warnings, time out and positive reinforcements as a form of discipline (I will only inflict physical pain as a last resort and even then, it would be a pinch- no spanking).

  • splinter1591@xanga

    my dad isn't that bad, but I fight back, so I don't think that him being worse to me would be good for him.


    "You don't deserve...""YOU DON"TDESERVE TO BE A PARENT!"
    I'm violent durring those episodes because id rather fight back and have pride and I hate him
  • lenybobsyouruncle@xanga

    best dating advice ever.



    not.... momaroo might appreciate this more.
  • c_s2@xanga

    umm...why is this on datingish?

  • IniquitousxAffliction@xanga

    @AsylumBlue - There isn't much of a difference in my point of view. I have been through much worse, but I couldn't watch this almost. A child should never grow up in fear of their own parents. That is my opinion. No child should ever have to feel the overwhelming sensation of terror crawling up their spine like some sort of sickly chill. They should never have to retreat to safety inside their mind. Even in the sanctuary of the mind, they know full well they are alone, and no one is going to stop it.  There is no fight or flight. There is only hold your breath and wait for more pain. 

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