Friday, 28 October 2011
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Top 3 First Date Turnoffs
In my experience, people are pretty normal and respectful on dates. But I do understand that the idea of going on a date comes with some heavy connotations that make people do weird things. There are all sorts of lists out there of what not to do on a first date, but these three party fouls are the ones I’ve seen that could have been easily averted if only the person had been given a clue.
1. Planning Poorly
This goes primarily for the instigator of the date whether guy or girl. If you do not take the time to at least plan your date, it will be over before it even begins. A poor planner does any or all of the following:
- arrives late (tardiness is the mother of all first date transgressions);
- didn’t make restaurant reservations;
- doesn’t know where the destination is (looking it up on GPS after you are lost is not okay).
These are the main culprits, but any indication that you are winging the first date will put you in the negative on the brownie points scoreboard.
Afraid that your poor planning skills will destroy your date night? Not to worry, just start with these date planning fundamentals.
- Find a place or event where you want to take your date. If tickets or reservations are required, make arrangements well in advance (like, as soon as you ask them out).
- Set the time when you will pick up or meet your date. Then be on time.
- Know where you are going. Program your GPS or get directions before you leave the house.
2. Inappropriate or Bad Appearance
This faux pas covers a range of social misdemeanors from poor hygiene and unkempt appearance to downright inappropriate attire. Guys and girls, this goes for both of you. Unbrushed, unwashed, dirty, sloppy dates might as well not show up; the look is unsightly and the smell is abhorrent. On the other extreme, smelling strongly of designer perfume or pre-date liquid courage will not endear you to your date. Bathe and brush your teeth. Please.
On the fashion side, gents should look sharp. You may think that wrinkled flannel and jeans with rips say “I’m casual and cool,” but to your date they say, “I don’t do laundry or care enough about this date to dress like a grown up.” Wear a pressed shirt, pressed pants, and nice shoes.
Ladies, cleavage shirts, cheek-peek minis, and fishnets on a first date are only fashionable if you shop at Hookers R Us. You can still dress conservative and look attractive. Bust out that knee-length dress or the dress slacks and three-quarter sleeve blouse.
3. Salary Updates
OMG the fact that I even have to mention this makes me cringe with shame for the entire dating population. Talking about how much money you make has got to be one of the tackiest conversation topics ever devised. It is a superficial factor that is rarely indicative of personal value or worth. Here’s just some of what happens when either party resorts to income bragging:
- Guys who flaunt their salary figure assume that their date is only interested in money. If you assume in that way, you make an ass out of you and only you.
- Girls who flaunt their salary can intimidate their date and come off as adversarial rather than datable.
In both cases, bringing up how much bread you win makes you appear arrogant, shallow, self-important, and lacking in any other interesting conversation points.
What to do instead: avoid the topic of money like it’s the plague. Instead, ask questions. See what the other person is like and search for some common ground. The conversation will prove more fruitful and rewarding for both people.
Guest post by Analise Marcus, an advocate for good dating behavior. She recommends doing your best to make a good first impression, but sending a box of chocolates or a bouquet via a coupon code from proflowers.com as a follow up if you want a second chance.
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Comments (28)
I feel that most lists of dating rules, etc don't apply to most real people. If you are an early thirties professional, in some big city, a la "as seen on TV", then go right ahead, but for the rest of us...
There is someone for everyone, and truly, I'd rather find out upfront who they are and let them know up front who I am. I really am not into wasting anyone's time, good will or money.
Arriving to pick up a first date early, I think is worse than arriving a few minutes late. The clothes depend on the event. If our first date is the Warp Tour and we are going to be out in the blazing sun and occasionally getting hosed down for 12 hours, I am going to wear my halter top and reek of sunscreen. And my last first date was with a guy who talked about his salary, and how low it was, and how expensive dinner was and how he needed to marry a rich woman...I'll take a guy who brags a little any day.
For most of the people I know, the first date doesn't consist of pressed pants, shined shoes and dinner at a place that needs reservations. And I suspect that for most of the Datingish crowd, that is also true.
If not, bring me up to speed.
and this is why i like hang outs that act as the same function as a date better...
"Bust out that knee-length dress or the dress slacks and three-quarter sleeve blouse. "
Knee length dress? Yes.
Dress slacks and sleeve blouse? No. Leave that at work, ma'am.
Talking about exes and eating with no manners are deal-breakers for me.
@ccccourage@xanga - soooo true.
Dress slacks on a date? Uh, no. This isn't a job interview, it's a date.
I think being yourself is probably pretty important. Making a fuss about looking a certain way to impress the person isn't going to let them see who and how you are. It's easy to get caught up in proper etiquette and not wanting to embarrass yourself or the other person and blah blah blah, everybody gets insecure. A date can be a big deal, but that doesn't mean it has to be strict and suffocating. Don't most people go out or to the movies or something else fairly casual? A nice balance of conversation/actually doing something so it doesn't leave too much room for awkward silence and small talk?
if all guys did what experts tell them to do on dates, they would be broke and f*cking no girl.
I went on a date with a guy and he wore a leather jacket, slicked black hair, nasty smelling cologne or some type of body oil, a shiny watch that his long jacket sleeve was suppose to cover, but he made sure to flaunt it
he opened the car door for me. he called me about 15mins before the appointment to tell me that he was going to be late, so that was okay. I barely knew him yet he introduced me to his friend at the restaurant as his "girlfriend"
the main turnoff was that whatever scent he was wearing stinks very badly worse than cigarettes. otherwise, the conversation was ongoing and okay. another thing was that his driving was bad. he kept talking while driving and was impeding traffic, nearly caused an accident on the freeway. so it was on the way to the date that was scary.
TOP 3 First Date Turnoffs?
3) "So I'm on parole, but don't worry, my officer is totally cool."
2) "I am so in love with Ashton Kutcher... really, he's my God."
1) "Well, I'm not really an addict... that's mostly just what I do with my friends!"
I completely disagree with this. I don't care about going to a restaurant that even NEEDS reservations on a FIRST DATE Jesus save that for the one year anniversary.
And this: "doesn’t know where the destination is (looking it up on GPS after you are lost is not okay)."
Uh, I don't care if the person looks up the directions before we get lost and I wouldn't be irritated at getting lost at all as long as we're going somewhere cool.
And as far as what you think people should wear on dates - Uh, hell no. I'm a jeans and t-shirt kind of girl and I'm not going to go all false-advertising getting all dressed up.
If it's a blind date or you're attending a dinner or function
where dressing up is appropriate, then all those rules are fine. But it really depends on the type of person you're dating. If you've gotten to know someone as a friend first, I think it's okay for it to be a little more casual and maybe for a few mishaps to occur. I personally don't like lateness, but if I'm called in advance that's fine. An hour late though...I'd wonder why that would even happen aside from a car accident or some emergency.
And hey, don't attack fishnets! Some girls (like me) are into goth and punk fashion; that's probably one of the first things I'd want a guy to know about me. Fishnets does not make a woman look like a hooker. But yeah, on a formal dinner date that would be kind of strange.
I agree minus the GPS part, sometimes a person gets lost despite best efforts. Cut a person some slack! Besides could be a fun adventure...
wow, I didn't know dating had the dress code of a high school dance.
I think "dress accordingly" would have made more sense. The other night, I had a new interest come over to watch tv. You're darn right I opened the door in a sweatshirt and jeans.
I don't even do dates but this sounds kind of extreme. This is why people feel like they should put up a front to attract the opposite gender, and then as soon as feelings develop, the other person always starts feeling like the person they fell in like/love with is changing because that's when the formalities start wearing away and the real you starts emerging. It's better than to have these good hygiene practices in the first place, and then take a realistic approach to the rest of the relationship; looking good will only take you so far in a relationship,
And getting lost once in a while is not bad, it makes for an adventure!
Nice.
"Ladies, cleavage shirts, cheek-peek minis, and fishnets on a first date are only fashionable if you shop at Hookers R Us." lol
It's sad that some people don't even know the basic rules for the first date. Our society is embarrassing.
I'd rather be myself than put on a show. I don't wear dress slacks or fancy clothes EVER because I work outdoors in manual labor, and I do it 12 hours a day 7 days a week. Why would I get extremely dressy for a date, when that's NOT the person I am? I always show up early, I get lost a lot (and it's actually a running joke with people who know me), and I'm not the girl who will put on make up and fancy clothes just to impress someone at a restaurant that requires reservations.
In fact, I wouldn't want to date a guy that wants that girl, so why would I pretend to be her and meet guys that want her?
Any one that has a set of rules for a first date is way to controlling for me to be attracted to. There are always going to be deal breakers, but no one is perfect and to display perfection on a date is a slick, greasy, underhanded car salesman move. I have faults and so does everyone else, why bullshit and waste time?
@ccccourage@xanga -
Arriving to pick up a first date early, I think is worse than arriving a few minutes late.I disagree with that. I think it never hurts to arrive early for anything save for the military (from what I heard and was told). I think if you say you are going to be at this and this time, I'll hold you to it. Kind of like a promise, it possibly can be an insight to their character.
OP:These rules depends really on the person and the function or formality of the date and situation etc; even though I at times I do still have to dress up, I make sure I can add a bit of myself into it. But unfortunately, first impressions are important and I've had bad impressions and it's been hard to rectify it later down the road.
I do agree with the lateness. I hold people to their word. This pretty much depends (the rules) on a lot of things.
Ha, I agree that people should dress accordingly and not insanely unkempt or slutty but giving slacks, three quarter length sleeves and pressed pants as the only options is a little bit blind to all the great fashion out there that is neither slutty nor looking like you're going into an interview.
@Hinase@xanga - my last first date showed up fifteen minutes early. I live alone. I was upstairs pulling my panty hose on...um...yeah...
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