Sunday, 09 October 2011
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Back to Square One

For the past few months my boyfriend and I have had increasing problems in our relationship. Some of it is from stress of finding work, some from me because school is getting harder and requires more of my attention. Those are the least of my worries it seems. The biggest problem that I seem to be having is trying to deal with his bipolar disorder.Let me back track a little bit for a second though. Growing up, he was always put down by his family. They called him every name you can really think of. His parents are crap and he doesn't live with them anymore (he lives with other family members who also constantly put him down). He was forced into this shell of seclusion and was never used to talking to anybody.
When we met and decided to be together, I found out that I was his first relationship. At first I thought it was cute, being somebody's first everything. Now I'm just not so sure anymore.
We've been together for quite a while (more than 6 months) and are definitely smitten with each other but like I've already said, dealing with his disorder is becoming increasingly hard to do (he's also not taking any medication for it). As normal couples should, we do argue...about petty stuff and about some serious issues that we need to work through.
Some of the things he does is starting to become more apparent to me. Like when we do argue, he always puts himself down to an extreme point where it becomes hard to talk to him. He shuts down when I need him the most. Now, I'm not emotionally dependent at all but when you're upset you do need your partner to hold you and tell you we're going to get through it.
If I'm upset he gets more distant, calls himself a piece of shit and I'm the one who has to comfort him, when I'm the one who really needs the comforting. Any negative confrontation makes him go distant.
He also has a huge problem communicating things to me. Like when he found a job and didn't tell me until I had to play 20 questions (which has happened before, this isn't the first time). We talk about it....he says he's sorry and guess what happens? He shuts down again. This doesn't help the trust issues I have from past relationships either.
I do understand that he has problems emotionally and I'm trying to do the best I can to not get mad sometimes but it's so hard to keep a level head at times.
I don't know if I should give up trying or what. I put everything I have into us, trying to make us work because I really do love him to death.
What should I do?
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This sounds like a lot of relationships to me... ha. But you should go see a therapist with him. If you two care about each other you can work it out! <3
First of all he needs to at least consider taking some kind of medication. Bipolar is one of those disorders in which regulated medication is usually needed. It's way different then just going through a period of depression or having anxiety. Second of all you are his first relationship. He has nothing else to go by and it seems like besides you he has no other support. That is a recipe for disaster. At the point he is at, he can't have a healthy relationship with you because he doesn't have a healthy relationship with himself so to speak. I have BPD and it's made it extremely hard for me to have a long lasting, happy relationship with anyone. So I understand where he is coming from completely but as we all know a relationship takes two and if you're not happy because he is not happy well...there really isn't too much more you can do. You can still love him and support him as a friend but overall he needs to help himself.
@Chibi_Son_Gokou@xanga - No offense but this guy isn't going to cure a mental disorder.
Having come from a home where my mother was bipolar, I'm going to highly recommend that you get him to see someone and have them prescribe him some medication. I'd even go as far as to say he may need lithium. Furthermore, he really needs to see a therapist, he has a lot of personal issues from his family and also coming from a similar background with regards to verbally/emotionally abusive parents I can also tell you that it's either going to stay as is or get worse, most likely get worse.
If he refuses to see somebody or at least get on medication then I'm going to recommend giving him an ultimatum. Either he gets help or you leave. It may be painful to do so but if he doesn't get help this going to wear you down a great deal and cause a lot of unneeded stress and pain; and ultimately it will lead to the end of the relationship anyways.
Untreated, bipolar disorder can lead to a lot of poor behavior and coping mechanisms. Alcoholism, drug addiction, anything that people use to numb themselves. So again, HE NEEDS HELP!
GET AWAY FROM HIM!!!!
He needs therapy and medicine, not a girlfriend. I wasn't fun to be with when I was unmedicated, and this guy won't be fun to be with until he gets better.
Get him to get help or get help with him is the simplest answer.
My ex boyfriend was the same way. Hard childhood, which led to him being bipolar and to him not wanting to open up to me. I tried for FOUR YEARS to get him to open up more and more and he slowly would but even know after we have broken up he won't talk to me or anything. I loved him with everything I have, he was my first, I was his. So we always tried to work out our fights and differences but it never really worked because I did all the talking and he would just sit there.
It's not a good relationship to be in honestly. It drags you down and makes you unhappy because he won't talk or open up. A relationship needs communication. He should be able to open up to you about anything and be able to tell you about his new job or anything else that is going on in his life.
That is my experience with that type of relationship. After we broke up, I feel so relived and I don't stress as much about him and what he could be keeping from me or if I get upset that he will just sit there and not talk to me. Every relationship needs communication, it really is key and if you're the one comforting him when you are upset, thats not right.
To be in a healthy relationship, you have to be in a stable relationship with yourself. I've always believed that before you can love another person you must love yourself first. I was in your shoes once and you can try and try to make him open up to you, feel better about himself, comfort him, but it won't work only because he won't change for you and more importantly, himself. He needs professional help as soon as possible. Like others have mentioned, if his disorder goes untreated it can lead to other problems. I hope everything works out for you two.
Save yourself. You're young, you haven't been with him for very long, he seems to not be taking his disorder seriously. There is no point in putting yourself through an emotional wringer with someone who isn't addressing their situation.
I am bi-polar, even with therapy and meds apparently I am a handful. I know this from having to live with myself and my ex telling me what being in a marriage with me was like. I don't want to be alone, but I understand why my ex dumped me, to save himself.
I'm a recovering addict. Listen to what the people here are saying. It's not going to get better, unless he recognizes the seriousness of this now and fully commits to addressing it. Meanwhile you are missing out on life and healthy relationships.
Get out of there. Get. Out. Of. There. GET OUT OF THERE. GET... OUT... OF... THERE!!!
He should get put on medication, bipolar disorder can go wild if not controlled. My mother had bipolar disorder and she refused to take medication until her relationships with her children were already in tatters. It was too late to develop a healthy relationship with her children, and I'm surprised my father was able to endure it, but bipolar disorder can ruin your entire life if it is not controlled. Please, get him help or else he'll ruin everything around him including his own future.
He needs someone to talk to - someone who can professionally talk with him about his disorder and help him deal with it. He'll have a breaking point and it will not be fun to witness. My mother was taken away for a whole week to a clinic and that was when she was given medicine and things definitely got better at our house - the breaking point was horrible to watch as a child and even now her episodes scare me. You don't know what he could do since highs and lows are unpredictable - he could hurt you physically and emotionally, he could go on an impulse buying spree, he could tear up the whole apartment inside out - get help.
Everything that needs to be said has already been said. I do want to point out that medication is not a necessity for bipolar disorder or any disorder. It's a great crutch but there are several people who live stable lives without medication. Also, someone else mentioned Lithium, and I'd be careful about recommending any specific medications over the net. Yes, it's commonly prescribed to bipolar people, but it has several bad side effects, especially if taken over long period of time. You have to get your blood monitored - regularly - and it's a huge hassle. I admit that it did do wonders for me, but it also ended up giving me a thyroid condition. It really does seem to be a last resort medication, and I'd advise the OP to make sure her boyfriend looks into every possible treatment before settling for Lithium. I'm a personal believer that therapy and therapy alone should be your first attempt. If that doesn't help you, consider medication. I lived medicated, off and on (us mental folk are bad about stopping meds) for about 4 years. I've been off of medicine for just under a year now and I'm doing just as well now as I was medicated. Medicine won't fix your boyfriend. It's almost all about lifestyle changes. Changing your attitude, changing your surroundings, stepping out of your comfort zone, and most importantly...learning how to deal with your condition. For BPD, that'd include knowing your triggers and knowing how to avoid/deal with them. It also includes realizing when you're in a manic/depressive state and how to get stabilized again. It goes so much deeper than one pill, or even a handful. Just remember that.
I have my own mental illnesses I struggle with. My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 16 months. I have a lot of info that can help you guys work through this. I've been in a mental instituation twice, and the skills they gave me and the ways they taught me to cope with things and deal with things, are AMAZING!! Message me, or hit me up... I'll see how I can send you some of the info. I promise you, it will help the both of you, but especially him!
If I had to take what I've learned from my past relationship with a similar dilemma, communication is key! Take baby steps, when you find yourself in a situation where you need him and he's shutting down, let that boy know! Not in a mean way of course, but just tell him, whatever the situation is where you find yourself needing him ("I know you feel like it's your fault but it's not, and right now all that I really need is a hug) and see where it goes from there.
It's not easy for people to make changes especially when it is so habitual and deep-rooted, but if you at least see the effort from him then just be patient. I know it sounds silly to have to explain what seems to be common sense or non-important thoughts in your head, but when it comes to developing better communication in a relationship, starting from communicating the basics with each other will eventually lead to more comfortable communication between you two when it comes to bigger issues you both have feelings about. It's a more slow and tedious process than anyone wants but if it's worth sticking it out for, and especially if you can see he's making the effort (there is a difference between effort and change) then hopefully this will lead to a stronger relationship for you guys.
But... what happens if things don't go magically? If you are trying to open communication and he's either not responding to it well, not making the effort, making half-assed effort, there is no change... then you have to think about what you want, weigh out your options and what you are willing to deal with and not deal with. Because at that point, you've stepped up and made a point to address the issue, which is never easy, and if you're the only one willing to take steps to make changes to better your relationship, you're taking all the responsibility of the relationship and it takes two to tango! Because at the end of the day, it's your life, you should do and have what makes you happy because you yourself deserve the best.
Best of luck!
Life is too short. Show him the direction he needs to take to get help and leave. If he were your husband, I'd suggest more but since you're not, really I'd just leave. Good luck!
@lilblucherrygrl@xanga - The only problem with getting medication, is finding ways to get it and if you don't have insurance, you're pretty much shit out of luck. Also, through my experience (I'm bipolar) trying to find programs, free clinics is a bitch to do and when you do get help, they don't help too much. Bipolar medication is expensive.
@CrisaRei@xanga - The thing is not everyone with bipolar disorder needs medication. He may still have good and bad days but it depends on the severity of it. To normal people that date those that have mental disorders, it may seem medication can fix it, but in the end, it may be a greater clutch and a bigger problem (everyone responds to medication differently)and it may not be severe enough to warrant medication though. A therapist or counselor does sound good as well. That can help probably more.
@heybrighteyes@xanga - I don't know if I believe that, because I've been/am I in healthy relationships and I'm not stable with myself in any way(never been). I'm still struggling on a lot of fronts but my bf has made me a lot of healthier in a number of ways. He has helped me more than I could ever do.
@Guteman91 - Not every untreated bipolar disorder goes onto that path. It depends on a lot of things like severity, support or lack of it etc; Many people live with it without medication etc; Also I wouldn't suggest a drug like lithium quite readily. It's a very dangerous drug and one that shouldn't be taken without caution or suggested lightly.
@cheesecakeloverk@xanga - I don't think forcing him to go to therapy will do much good if he doesn't want to do it. You can't really force anyone to do something they don't want. That's the only problem and with you, it only showed that he wasn't ready for the long haul and it doesn't mean that all guys are like that. It was just that one guy and you'll possibly find someone that can go for the long haul. There are pretty of guys that will do that. But I do understand that feeling you had but then again, it wouldn't be fair for her to stay if she can't handle it. It seems like perhaps she can't plus his other issues.OP:
The thing to note is, if you're going to sign up for the long run if not, I suggest you get out. Bipolar disorder is entirely destructive and very selfish and you have to be willing to commit to helping him when he's like this. Also know that medication doesn't cure the disorder unlike what others claim. It's not a cure all to everything, he'll still have good and bad days. Not to mention that it's hard for any normal person to cope with someone that is bipolar, it's hard to distinguish what is severe and what is mild and since I don't know how severe he is, I'm going to assume that it is pretty mild (unless corrected). But for his other issues, I do suggest for him to talk to a counselor but then I again understand how he probably would feel about it.
If you do intend to stick with him in the long end, you have to show up patience and real understanding for what he is going through. Either way, it's still very difficult what he is going through but either way, you're under no obligation to stay if you don't want to. You're probably not ready for this kind of responsibility and task. Not many people are.
It seems like you're hesitating and that seems to me like you won't last in this sort of relationship. To be honest, I'm a lot like your bf. I have a lot of issues and I'm bipolar too but my bf is deeply committed and devoted to me. He understands and forgives me when my disorder takes control (I can't afford medication. I've tried every way)and he's here a hundred percent without question.
Sometimes bipolar people can't get help they need. I know I am tightly in a bind.
Though I'd listen to @xcrownedhopeless - because she's right. It's more than medication but lifestyle changes around and the realization that you'd have to deal with this with the rest of your life(from him at least). Though at the very least @mylittlepetunia@xanga - 's advice should be taken. You should talk to him about this open and honestly and then decide from there.
Good luck!Wow, I can't believe all of the selfishness I see in the comments. Get out? It's not like he's fuckin trying to do this to her, and deserting him when he needs help the most would be absolutely ridiculous, when the OP is asked for just that - help when she needs it.
My god, what fucking hypocrites.
I have depression, and my boyfriend left me when I needed him the most. I had nothing left, so I went to therapy and got medicated.
But a year later, I'm still not over him, I've made many mistakes in my misery that will affect the rest of my life, and I absolutely resent him for leaving me when I needed him. Not to mention I find it INCREDIBLY hard to trust that anyone else won't leave me when the going gets tough.
You seriously need to FORCE him to seek counselling and help. And don't give up. He's probably still that same guy you fell in love with, but stress and all has beaten that guy into hiding.
For me, being a year after I first got help, I'd say at THIS point I'm doing alright. But my boyfriend breaking up with me put me back quite a few steps before I was able to move forward.
With your help, he won't regress at all, and hopefully begin progressing.
I recommend he goes to therapy.
He can't have a normal healthy relationship unless he handles his own personal demons. You can't "fix" him, and it sounds like that is exactly what you are trying to do. By "comforting him" you are enabling him. He needs to stand on his own two feet.
Everyone has a story, everyone has something that allows them an excuse (I.E his "hard" childhood.) It's just an excuse.
As for his Bipolar Disorder, if he has been medically diagnosed I would have him at the VERY least speaking with a professional about the possibility of medications to assist in stabilizing his moods.
The fact that you have been together for "more then 6 months' makes it sound like it hasn't been that long at all, too short of a time (in MY opinion) to have "issues" as a couple you need to work through.
If you're not ready to deal with it, walk away. You're not in control of his reaction and if you love him, you won't keep arguing with him. I'm assuming you've been with him less than a year because you would have proudly stated "more than a year" if you had been, so even though it's a little loss of time and you've had enough time to bond, it won't be so bad as breaking up with someone you've been with for five years.
@cheesecakeloverk@xanga - The point is, you can't force someone to get help, especially if they're not ready for it. If he continually shuts down and refuses to communicate, there is hardly any way to salvage the relationship. Not unless the OP wants to be in a weird limbo for the rest of her life where she's dating someone who doesn't even know how to live with himself, yet alone someone else.
No, it's not his fault he has a disorder, no more than it's my fault I have mine. The point is, though, that he isn't trying to get better, either by himself or in the relationship. And she doesn't know how to help him. Unless she's a psych major with lots of experience with these sorts of things, she probably can't do much. Rather than continue fighting and scarring his dating impressions for the rest of his life, why not cut it clean and move on?
Anyway, it seems like the whole point of your comment is to put the responsibility of his recovery on the OP. It's not on her. It's on him. He's an individual who should be able to stand on his own two feet. How he reacts to her doing anything is not really her problem, unless she chooses to make it so. What you're suggesting is that they breed themselves a codependent relationship that could easily go down the lane of emotional or mental abuse.
He's not okay to be in a relationship right now. It sucks to hear it, but if he refuses to go on medication, to get help, then he can't handle the stress of a relationship. Right now, the two of you are caught in a toxic cycle, and that's not fair to either of you.
I'm not suggesting that you leave him completely - that would be incredibly selfish. What he needs right now is a friend, someone to support him. As someone with bipolar disorder, I can tell you that the stupidest thing you can do is not try and get help. No matter what you hear - homeopathic remedies, marijuana cures, etc - the best thing one can do is sit down and talk out issues, feelings, strategies of tackling moods swings with a professional.Just remember, Huey Lewis says that it's hip to be square.