Friday, 30 September 2011

  • The Black Leper Effect

    At my university I have made an interesting observation for a particular individual, we’ll call him Nick. Now Nick use to be a good friend of mine but I ended up dissolving the friendship due to his poor, immature, and childish behavior towards myself, other friends, and just people, especially women, in general. Obviously he wasn’t like this when I originally met him but as the months went by the person I knew just simply vanished and a hollow shell of superficiality and extreme pretentiousness was left in its wake.

    Now, what my observations pertain to is Nick’s interactions and relationships with women he’s been involved with or pursuing at the university. It’s important to note that me and Nick’s friendship began with a mutual interest in dating guru’s and pick up artists; however, Nick made the classic mistake that many people do when you enter that world, he followed their teachings literally and religiously, but that’s a topic for another time.

    Getting back to it, what I noticed with Nick is he would have a degree of success with these women but they all fell into a certain category and caliber. These women were always quite insecure, naïve, and fairly easy to manipulate and influence. His general “technique” was to pick at these women’s already fragile self esteem; usually finding fault with their appearance, personality, or ethnic background.

    I knew the intricacies of this and to briefly explain it, the purpose is to degrade the woman and to make one seem superior to them; thus no matter how repulsed the woman is she’s compelled to pursue this man in order to prove to him that she’s better. Now due to the fragile personalities of these women, this would work 9/10, and though they would be ashamed of this relationship they had with him they would still keep going back. Nick believed this gave him the appearance of being a “Bad Boy” (Justin Beiber could kick this guy’s ass) and these naïve women also believed that.

    After having slept or hooked up with these women this is where the title of this piece comes into play. Once it was known around campus (it’s a small university so word spreads quickly) that he had “been with” one of these women there was an interesting phenomenon that occurred; no other men would even remotely attempt to pursue these women, both on and off campus. It was if a stigma had been placed upon them and every man was fully aware of it. Or perhaps as a result of having been with Nick these women now exuded (unconsciously) a more prominent sense of insecurity and baggage that just repelled every man they came into contact with from that point on. Aside from people having a general dislike and borderline hatred of Nick it became rapidly known around the campus that if you were associated with him your social status would plummet.

    Now, I have a theory as to why this occurs. This occurrence is actually quite common, it’s the reaction men have after discovering that a woman, whom they’re attracted to, has slept with, hooked up with, and/or dated a man that is considered an asshole, douchebag, scumbag, slimy, whatever terminology you choose to apply.

    Why do they have this reaction? Well, the man who is labeled as such is deemed to be of lower quality and/or social status, as a result, for having been with this man the woman is then devalued as a potential mate. Thus the man who was attracted or interested in this woman is not only repulsed with her but also with himself. Why? Well she is now of a lower quality and thus he has made a poor mental selection of a potential mate, meaning there must also be something wrong with him for having wanted to pursue such a woman.

    So, let’s use some celebrity examples:

    Men, would you want to date a woman who you knew had slept with and/or dated Kanye West, Chris Brown, Tiger Woods, Spencer Pratt or anyone from the Jersey Shore?
    Ladies, same question but the man was with Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Amy Winehouse, Casey Anthony, or again, one of the members of the Jersey Shore?

    Now I am not saying people aren’t allowed to make mistakes but have you ever seen or heard about someone doing something similar to this and it just sent up a giant red flag for you and everybody else? Have you ever encountered a phenomenon like this before? Your thoughts?

Comments (15)

  • PrincessPatriotII@xanga
    This is why I only date mature adults who can see through all this social BS.

  • Welcome_To_Your_New_Obsession@xanga
  • LoveeeLikeASunset@xanga

    @Guteman91 - Maybe it's because you mentioned Kanye West? Why does it have to do with race lol

    Anyways, if a guy I was interested in has been with a few or less women who were trashy or slutty, that wouldn't phase me. But if he seems to have a pattern where he's only dated those types of women then I probably wouldn't take him seriously.

  • Guteman91

    @LoveeeLikeASunset@xanga - Hah, I didn't even notice who was in the picture. I just wanted to point out and clear up the fact that this is has nothing to do with race. I didn't want people to get all uppity and offended.

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    no, I wouldn't date a guy, who mainly thinks with his dick and easily hooks up with many women. I didn't dorm but commuted to college, so I avoided most of the drama if there were any. I didn't date anyone from my college. I was often interested in older men, who can also be sluts, but I'm usually drawn to men, who have arrogant attitudes and won't easily sleep with me-not that that's my priority lol but the last guy was religious and abstained from sex, yet he had a lot of sex appeal, so the forbidden fruit made me want him more. we never had sexual contact but it was still hot. anyway, I've known guys, who were self proclaimed sluts, and it did disgust me, not just the having sex part, but it was scandalous sex with women, who were already taken, so they were cheaters.

  • CrAdLe2daGrAve@xanga

    i would never date anyone from jersey shore or anyone remotely close to them.. seriously look how they treat these women and the only reason why these women are reluctant enough to hook up with these losers is because they'll have their 15 mins of shame.. and i would never touch the situation after that one episode aired when snooki, sammi and ronnie pranked him and put cheese and smeared shit all over his bed.. mike was saying the girl gave him head unprotected.. i think the only sane one there is jenni.. but even then if i was gay i wouldn't date her.. you would think an adult in his 30s like mike would take responsibility of his dick and know about std's but apparently not.. it sickens me.. and if he ever gets married i would feel sorry for the girl.. and i've realized i don't, won't and can't date a guy from college.. i need someone that's already established his career goals, his positive outlook on life.. not some fool that isn't ready for shit that isn't ready to grow teh fuck up and be a real man.. i'm not about to waste my time supporting him financially neither cuz then i'll just be enabling a behavior where he thinks it's ok that he doesn't have to do shit 'cuz he got me to do shit for him.. i can't take college guys seriously for that matter

  • lforletty@xanga

    Interesting topic. Well my ex's first ex (I'm his 2nd) was such a biotch, she cheated on him. This didn't degrade him in my eyes, I felt really bad for what happened to him and the fact that his dating history was fairly clean made him more attractive in my eyes. Clean as in only had one ex and it was her who wronged him, not the other way around. I would never date someone that was a cheater/homewrecker. My ex ended up cheating on me, so much for that-_- not clean anymore. I've dated 2 douchebags, this definitely fcked up my head and my values on relationships, but I don't think this would necessarily make me "less attractive" to future guys 'cause I never did anything wrong, it's not my fault that I went through suck jerks, y'know? :|

  • ShirleyD@xanga

    i always try to give someone a chance to prove who they are to me, not what people say they are. But if I KNOW for a fact through knowing said person, personal obvservation, seeing the string of ladies crying cuz he is an ass... total jerk, douche, womanizer... not happening lol. 

  • FuntimeswithGoldie@xanga

    I know some white guys who will not date women who have slept with black guys. I suspect it has more to do with girth and insecurity more than the girl being tainted from it.

    I've noticed that if a girl is pretty enough, guys can overlook a lot. What's probably repelling the guys most is that the girl is now deemed a certain "type"  and insecure for dating your old buddy. Seems like a lot of guys are being gossipy about it and have decided in a manly way to boycott his exes. It's judgmental and a passive aggressive way to punish the girl for sleeping with a douchey guy. Yeah, men can totally be as passive aggressive, gossipy and judgmental as women.

    Women can do the same thing to guys who have dated girls they don't like. They place them lower on the totem pole because their equity has gone down for dating certain girls. There really is a dating effect that can either raise or lower your equity in the dating world. It's pretty stupid.

  • Raizzen

    Sounds to me like you're not a friend I wished for anyone. The article tells a lot about you. Your OWN insecurity. Jealousy and your own shallow prejudice. Sad.

    While am not condoning what 'Nick' has done, it occurs to me that he's much much more successful than you do with the opposite sex and someone is massively bitter.

  • sugar_mama@xanga

    men who pray on women who have insecurities etc. show a lot about themselves. it's unfortunate that women pray fall into this psychology mind trap. it's funny at the same time that they don't have enough confidence to go for a mature confident woman :)

  • Guteman91

    @CrAdLe2daGrAve@xanga - I agree with everything you've said except for refusing to date anyone in college. Your completely justified in being jaded and suspicious of a majority of men in college, they just have not grown up and mature, however, there can still be men in college who meet the description you've given; I know of at least half a dozen of them at my university.

    @lforletty@xanga - Well I only know the details about the ex you've described here, I can't speak on the other men. In that situation I believe that your right in saying that's not your fault. However, if you haven't dealt with the issues that resulted from having dated these other less than savory characters, then I believe that you will be repelling future men because of an unconscious signal that you give off.

    @FuntimeswithGoldie@xanga - Very interesting points. Personally speaking, I have almost an opposite view of the first point you make, I'd prefer that the woman I'm with has dated men of other races in the past. If you stick to the same type over the years, how much are you really learning about yourself and growing as an individual?

    I do agree as well that men will overlook A LOT of things when the woman is attractive enough; I did that back in high school and it never turned out well. Now, I won't disregard what you said, I'm sure the men are being very gossipy, judgmental, passive aggressive, etc. but the point I continued to make was that these women weren't receiving any attention from men OUTSIDE the university as well; men who had no idea what her dating history was or any of the gossip.

    I don't doubt either that women do the exact same thing.

    @Raizzen - Your entitled to that opinion sir and I shall defend to the death your right to say it. Heh, I'll just say agree to disagree. I get the sense though that this is someone from my university who has been seriously creeping on my Facebook page :P

    Speaking with regards to my actual opinion of "Nick" in all honesty I truly pity him. I cannot imagine being so paralyzed by such a level of fear and insecurity that one has to go to such measures to just to feel some temporary semblance of comfort and security in themselves. To need to be so manipulative of others because they are absolutely terrified of being vulnerable and coming to grips with their own demons; in other words to live in a world of self denial. I'm not by any means jealous of him because I see the immense pain that he's in and that he's only continuing the self destructive patterns that amplify that pain.

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  • lforletty@xanga

    @Guteman91 - "However, if you haven't dealt with the issues that resulted from having dated these other less than savory characters, then I believe that you will be repelling future men because of an unconscious signal that you give off."

    This is unclear to me, come again? Do you mean I'd be naive?

  • FuntimeswithGoldie@xanga

    @Guteman91 - I suspect it has something to do with their insecure nature if they're constantly blackmarketed. 

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