Wednesday, 27 July 2011
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Get a Job or We're Through

Have you ever been in a situation where employment or education was the deciding factor in sustaining your relationship?Sometimes it's due to layoffs, other times laziness, and in special cases, it's the result of mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety (and its varying effects which can include agoraphobia), or bipolar disorder. There are various reasons why a person may be out of work temporarily or for long periods of time. While I can't speak about the severity of mental disorders since it varies from person to person, I can understand how having a case of agoraphobia where you need safety zones to feel comfortable may affect your employability or will to attend classes.
The possibilities are endless, but there's a constant pressure in our society to succeed and "become someone." Sometimes it's parental pressure, other times it may even be your significant other putting you on the hot seat. As soon as you've graduated from high school, it's expected that you move out, move on, and go to college so you can have a home, support a family, and become independent.
In high school during your senior year, you may get college recruiters coming in to sell you on their school. It's their job to make this school sound desirable so they can attract students with high GPA's and phenomenal test scores. Even still, the more interest they're able to produce, the better. It doesn't matter much if you know what you want to do with your life at the time; they want your money and the students with the highest scores in order to improve the university's public image and statistics where .1 of a percent is a big deal.
Most universities offer a variety of courses for students to take (general education is normally required, which is a souped up version of high school), but in many cases, high school graduates rush into college without having a specific interest. What needs to be understood is that college isn't specifically made for 18-year-olds, and you can attend college at any point in your life. Why gamble away thousands of dollars only to fall into debt if you're not sure what you want to major in? Go to college when you feel you're ready, not when you're being pushed into it.
I believe that a number of students who major in "undecided" have a higher chance of dropping out because they have no passion or drive to study or even attend classes. College becomes more of an experiment in socializing, except you're paying thousands of dollars to do it.
Some people are lucky enough to know what they want at the age of 18, but for the majority, it's unknown even up to the ages of 30 or 40 in some cases. However, there's a negative perception of people who don't attend a college or work a job because they're seen as unproductive and lazy; just another growth that needs to be lobbed off of the face of society. This, in turn, affects relationships and how much worth a partner is deemed to have.
For those who have been laid off, especially in our current economic climate, it's tough finding another job even with a college degree. There's so much competition in certain fields that finding a job can become an almost impossible task for some. If you have a partner in this situation, you need to understand that they're a victim of our economy, and their self-confidence may lower after losing a job, which can prevent them from continuing the search. Make sure to constantly encourage them, and let them know that there will be an opening eventually. You can even go out of your way and help him or her send out resumes to potential employers. Craigslist is always a great tool to use in finding a job.
If you're suffering from a mental disorder, it's always great to seek a therapist either for one-on-one sessions, or group therapy. Having contact with others in similar situations or tackling the subconscious may help improve your situation. Taking medication on top of therapy is the suggested method of fighting mental illness, but I understand that some are opposed to the idea of medicating and feeding big pharmaceutical companies. If your partner is a sufferer, please have patience with them and help them seek out therapy along with medication. With mental illnesses, you need a lot of patience and love.
Money can become an issue putting a strain on the relationship, which directly correlates with the disdain felt by partners when their significant other isn't working or attending school. It's even worse in cases where there's a family and a home to sustain, but in such cases, it's possible to take out a loan or even borrow money from relatives or friends until you can get back up on your two feet. It's an individual effort and it's worth it if you're in a great relationship or have a family. You don't want to put your child in a position where they're disadvantaged and grow up in a single-parent home while having to deal with the consequences of your decisions later on.
That aside however, I strongly advise against having a child unless you know you're financially stable and have a job steady enough to support a kid. Prevention goes a long way. This is of the utmost importance so you don't end up in a compromising situation like I detailed above.
As far as we can scientifically tell, there's only one life to live, and you should find your own path instead of giving in to societal norms. Partners should be more forgiving in cases where layoffs or mental illnesses affect a person's career and economic situation. College will always be waiting for you; don't believe that you're ever too old to attend. You can put yourself in a better situation if you avoid the debt and work jobs which don't require a college degree until you know what you want or have some money to pay your way through college.
It's also possible to seek a career counselor or even inquire about jobs when you're around relatives and friends. Reading up on different jobs online can help give you a clearer understanding and in the long run, possibly help you decide on a career choice based on what interested you the most. Many students change majors at least once in college, which goes to show you that being sure of yourself beforehand can be more productive.
Have you ever been faced with this situation? Which side of it were you on?
Sincerely,
Nunez Love Doctor.Certified with a PhD in... Nothing.
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Lucky for me, I don't have this problem in my relationship. My husband works and is in college and takes care of everything. My job is to care for our child and manage the household, cleaning and cooking, along with various other things (keeping tabs on the bank account and sending bills out on time). I have an Associates Degree in General Studies and chose to wait until I go further because I had no idea what I wanted to do and refused to shell out thousands of dollars on something I might not like doing later on. My husband says that as long as he's making enough money to support our family, he'd rather I be home with our child. So that's what we do. If we ever get to a point where he is unable to support us, I will get a job. I fully intend on furthering my education once I'm done raising children. Right now, my first priority is my child/future children.
For me it's more about ambition. The person having no drive to do anything with themselves. If you ever saw the movie Blue Valentine, that is a perfect example. From what I got from the movie was that a major factor for the wife was his lack of wanting to do something with his life when he had so much potential. The fact he was happy just doing any random job irked her. The fact she was the bread winner for the family, turned her off her husband in the end.
I wish my boyfriend didn't want me to get a job. I dont think he will ever marry me until I do. I want to become a housewivf and SAHM but it isn't an option in a relationship with him. He wants me to get a degree/job asap and nags at me about it a lot. So that's what i'm trying to do because I dont want to end our relationship.He says when i'm employeed or have my degree and when I am ready we will have children. He don't feel i'm ready but he says he is. so we have to put it off.
He thinks I'm weird for trying to get a summer job before going to college 16-18 credits per term at a time. I just also think me earning some money would do our relationship some good- we'd have more places and things to enjoy this summer. My worry over getting a job and my close to empty pocket is why I don't know what to do when we are together sometimes. It's really taking a toll on our relationship. Kind of. He could be okay with doing free activities if I just act more comfortable enough to enjoy doing so.
OMFG YES!!! I love my guy but he's...scattered. He talks about all the material things he wants & how he hates being broke but doesnt do anything to fix it. Then he tells me he hates school. I always tell him you have to do what you gotta do before you can do what you want but I dont think he gets it. His 2 roommates pay enough to cover his rent & electricity so he's spoiled.
I told him until he gets a better job that's on the books & has his own place, I wont marry him. If I move out, I'm living on my own or with my husband. If I wanted to live with someone else, I can stay home. It's not even just about us, I'm worried if something happens, he'll end up homeless or worse. Both of his parents passed away & at his age, his remaining relatives wont take care of him fulltime. He's not a user, dont get me wrong. If you try to do something for you, he'll appreciate the offer but tell you no but he needs more realistic ambitions than to buy the newest game or see the new action movie. I think we're made for each other as opposites attract but love doesnt pay the bills & support a family...atleast not in the States. LOL
I had this issue with both my current bf and my ex. Both were super unmotivated, didn't care about how to make a living. I told them both there was no future for us if they couldn't even give themselves a future. My ex got his FIRST JOB EVER while dating me. My current bf has been working off and on since we started dating a little over 2 years ago.
I wouldn't say money itself is important...it's the stability. I want to be with someone who can provide for a family if we ever take it that far.
This is one of the many reasons my ex and I split. He was so lazy about everything. All he wanted to do was sit at home, smoke pot, and play Starcraft 2. Pretty sure he still does. He did and still does have enough contacts and experience to get a job. But he's too lazy to even look and apply. Whenever I'd say something, he'd just bitch that I nag him. Then he'd complain about not having any money. Seriously, if you can't clean up after yourself, don't give a shit enough to even try to get a job, and just sit at home all day smoking pot and playing games... who, in their right mind, would want to be with you?
My boyfriend just lost his good job in the school district :( Im not going to leave him, but i do expect him to get another job eventually.... He was out of work for 8 months while I was working and I was pretty unhappy about that.. Atleast he has unemployment though and he has a better chance at getting another school district job than people who havent worked there before.. I just hope they start up some jobs soon :( Plus.. I like my alone time sometime! :D haha.. I am still working, Ive been working for over 2 years :)
@tips@hardestlevel - I know someone exactly like that only... He has a baby at home.. Its really sad that no one is working there.. I do smoke weed though... But I also have a job, and will be going to school too soon and I play games :D You just have to have the drive to achieve success.. Im so glad Im not lazy anymore :D haha
most of the guys that I've liked were more ambitious than me that it made me look bad even if I was also ambitious. I like being challenged. that's why I'm drawn to arrogant guys that tend to brag, because at least they have something to brag about rather than the ones that haven't accomplished much to say much of anything.
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." I absolutely agree with your sentiment that prevention goes a long way. You ain't kiddin'!!! My sister has six children and is pregnant again, struggles financially baaaaaadly and none of the childrens' fathers pitch in or even watch their own kids. It's a sad situation.
My other sister has three kids with two different fathers, and is undergoing therapy to overcome emotional issues. Kids can bring you so much joy, but I believe she ought to have waited. Can't do anything about it now.
In response to the point of the post, though, my fiance and I are both actively seeking jobs. If he doesn't have one, that's fine. If I don't and he does, that's okay too. We rely on one another in tough times. I've just recently gotten used to that dynamic because after watching my parents grow up, my father supporting my mother, my mom never working or having "her own" money, it terrified me to depend on anyone else for anything. But I'm learning that there's balance, and since our relationship is strong and healthy and we're starting out our lives together, it's okay.
@ShirleyD@xanga - I'll have to check that movie out. It sounds really good
@Alliecat15@xanga - If you wouldn't be happy working outside the home, and you'd rather be a SAHM, won't you be discontent later with your guy? I don't mean to pry but that's disconcerting. It seems cruel that he's pushing you to conform to what he wants.
@ohforrealson@xanga - Well, I love him very much and we have been together for a very happy five years. He treats me really good and buys me the things I need and most of what I want. I think he's just tired of paying all of the bills by himself and buying things we both need and then what both of us want. He says that since we dont have children I should be striving for a good job so we can afford more stuff for our kids and not have to struggle with money. And basically when I prove to him I am stable enough, we will have children and I can either work part time somewhere or maybe be a stay at home mom then, depending how he is doing financially. Basically he loves money. He is not rich but he has a good job and he says he wants us to have the most money we can possibly get before having kids. So i'm in college so I can get a degree and get some more money so he feels ready. I think he has a fear of not being able to provide by himself. Not sure? I kind of understand his reasoning. It would be nice if he was super rich and was like "ohh i'll take care of my fam by myself" like some guys do. But that's not how it happened for me. lol. Now I'm hoping to do something along the lines of physical or occupational therapy asap so we can get baby makin. lol
@Alliecat15@xanga - Oh I understand. I think that as long as you're content with what you're doing, that's what matters. I totally get wanting to stock up on cash before bringing kids into the world!
Good luck with your goals :) both of you.
I dated a jobless 33 year old boy for two months.
He had been laid off from his job, but then I found out that he had been laid of eight months earlier and hadn't even APPLIED for another job.He was living off of unemployment benefits and buying pot every day. He bought plastic silverware and paper plates all the time and when I finally asked him why he said he didn't want to do dishes.FACE. PALM.
@ohforrealson@xanga - It's out on DVD now too. :) Has Ryan Gosling in it and Michelle Williams. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
@thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga - Ouch. If he isn't even trying and is using unemployment checks to buy pot, it was best to move on.
@ShirleyD@xanga - Ryan Gosling? I'm sold. :p
@AsylumBlue - Oh I totally moved on and even reported him for unemployment fraud. I work too hard to witness that crap and say nothing.
This even inspired me to submit a post to Datingish about it so other people can share their worst dating experiences. Hahahhaha.
@ShirleyD@xanga - Same
It seems like college education has become more worthless these days, seeing that just about anyone can get a degree if they apply for student loans. Â I have a Master's Degree in Taxation and have passed one of the most difficult certification exams on the first attempt, but that for the most part doesn't mean jack to employers without x-number of years of work experience. Â I always lose out on jobs because companies decide to hire someone with more work experience instead of looking to train someone new, even if that experienced person was fired for misconduct. Â Â
I didn't want to waste my dad's money so against his wishes I went to a community college. When
I figured out what I wanted to do I transferred to a decent university.
I've been working for around a year now and my newish bf graduated in March and is unemployed. But I don't mind because he does look for jobs and things are bad out here in California.
I'm currently unemployed and I'm hesitant to even try to date. I want to, but who wan'ts to date an unemployed person? I have a college degree, but its still hard to find a job. I can't even get a job at Wal-Mart!! There is probably so much competition out there and not enough jobs. I actually got an interview this week and the employer said over 800 people applied for that job.
"I believe that a number of students who major in "undecided" have a
higher chance of dropping out because they have no passion or drive to
study or even attend classes. College becomes more of an experiment in
socializing, except you're paying thousands of dollars to do it."
^^^ I don't agree with this paragraph. Everyone I know who were "undecided" when they entered college didn't drop out; I, myself, was "undecided".