Sunday, 10 July 2011
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Your Place Or... Mine?
I previously had an article that I had posted on Datingish that involved the outcome and consequences for getting married too soon and what people, overall, thought was "too soon." In this article, I included a "sequence of events" to introduce the point I was making that included: "You meet the person of your dreams, you get to know them, you fall in love, you move in together, you get married, you have kids." As with most posts, I had varying comments and thoughts. However, one caught me off gaurd. Someone commented that moving in comes after marriage....
In less than two months, I'm moving three hours away from my hometown into an apartment with my boyfriend. No, we're not married. But is that really that abnormal? I mean, we're in love and we plan to be engaged soon but our wedding won't be for at least one to three years after we finally get engaged. But enough about me. I'm wondering how you'd even get to know someone without living with them.
I've had my boyfriend stay with me days on end and I swear I learned something new, some things I like and others not so much, about him everyday. This is one of the reasons I'm all for moving in with him before we decide to tie the knot. But I couldn't imagine going from living in two seperate houses to marrying him THEN moving in together.But on the other hand, there's research that proves the person who commented might be on to something. According to Dr. Harley, eighty-five percent of couples who live together pre-marriage end up divorced (you can find this right here http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5025_qa.html). He blames the thought of "Oh yes, things are working out while we're living together right now... and they will in the future. Let's go ahead and get married..." He states that marriage is much more of a commitment unlike in a relationship we're you're living together and that overall, marriage changes everything.
So, out of curiousity...
Is moving in together before marriage a good thing or a bad thing? What are the outcomes of moving in before marriage (for those of you who have done so) vs. moving in after marriage? Would you ever wait until after marriage to move in with someone? Does reading Dr. Harley's post make you think differently at all?
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Moving in with my ex-fiancee definitely contributed to us breaking up, I think.
great article gave me a lot to think about thnks
I moved in with my husband after getting engaged but we were living in different states at the time. In the beginning it was difficult at times but we learned to compromise (a lot). We are now married and his habits still annoy me at times but when I moved in, we both knew we were committed ring or no ring.
I think it just depends on the couple. If two people are really willing to work together, they will.
I'd rather live separetely while in a serious relationship to give each other space to miss each other. I'm not ready to share practically everything. I still like my personal home space and privacy. if you're ready, then go for it.
Hmm, I'm conflicted on the matter. I do think living together should come after marriage, from a biblical and moral standpoint. But, I also wouldn't buy a car without buying it first. So I can definitely see the value to living with your potential mate before tying the knot, too. I kind of lived with my husband before we were married. He was going off to OCS for the Navy while we were engaged and he stayed with me for a month and a half before he left, since his lease was up. I definitely learned some things during that time that I didn't know before about him. But I also learned that he wasn't anything I couldn't handle. Thus, our marriage and now two children.
I think it is a good call. You wouldn't buy a car without a testdrive right? Just like with sex before marriage, moving in before marriage is a way of ensuring you both know what you are letting yourselves in for. Better to realize you can't live together now (it happens, however much you like or love a person, some people you just can't live with) than when you have made a hell of a lot of promises about sticking together! Happiness is the ultimately goal. Moving in is a great call because it ensures your longterm happiness is tested early.
Meagan, usually co-habitating is bad for couples who are living together "casually." "Casually" means that even though they are in a committed relationship, they did not set down an actual agreement to get married in the future. Therefore, when fights break out and someone takes someone else for granted, the couple breaks up because they weren't really determined to stay together permanently anyway.
However, in your case, you and your man has decided to get married. You're practically engaged. Therefore, if you and your man have problems while living together, you are more willing to talk and work it out, rather than calling it quits. You have both decided that you're "in it to win it," which is really the bottom line for successful marriages. I have a research study that says the rate of success in marriage is higher between couples who cohabited while they were engaged, than couples who never cohabited. Let me know if you want to read it. Good luck and God Bless! :)
@stoic_asylum@xanga - Are you happy you took that step that made you realize you weren't compatible after moving in together? Or do you feel regretful for allowing the step to change the relationship?
@married_me@xanga - Excellent point. [:
@ChicaLaLoca@xanga - I think that's beautiful and I'm really happy that worked out of you. Overall, are you happy with the decision you made or do you think waiting to move in together, for any amount of time, would have altered the outcome?
@Footballblogs@xanga - Wonderful point made. I think happiness comes with accepting somethings and being willing to change others. It would be hard to deal with someone who is unwilling to adapt after marriage compared to before.
@xxSilverxWingsxx@xanga - I would LOVE to read your research study. That was an excellent idea for a study. I wish I was more creative when I took my college research class as a high school student and attempted to study something like what you did. And thank you, very very very much for you blessing and wish for luck!
I think you should live together when you get engaged. Before it's a bit sketchy, to me at least. Love is one thing, to be sure, and it's quite powerful, but living with that person brings its own challenges and obstacles that you can't really prepare for or anticipate until you experience them for yourself.
However, I do think there's a strong link between moving in with each other too early in a relationship and bad relationships. I'm not quite sure what it is, but I think it does exist and I think moving in together is a step that should be taken a LOT more seriously than it is now to have more long term success with relationships overall.
@The_Aftershock_3650@xanga - Very well said. Do you believe in a particular amount of time a couple should be together or certain steps that should be taken before they decide to move in? Or do you believe in a more "When the time is right, the time is right" approach?
According to my mom, you shouldn't even stay the night with someone until after you're married.. Moving in is out of the question. I stayed the night for an ex bf's birthday because we were both going to be drinking & I don't like going home drunk. After the party was over we both fell asleep immediately, no sex, just sleep. My mom flipped out.. She thinks that people shouldn't even sleep together (actual sleep, not sex) until they're married.
I personally think that I would rather live with a guy after we dated for some time before even thinking about marriage. He might have some weird hobby that I might not like, & wouldn't know about it until we got married..or engaged.
I wouldn't do it, either way. I like the idea that marriage includes the challenge of learning how to be a roommate to the person as well as a wife. But I'm not going to sleep with anyone before I'm married, so I come from a different angle anyway.
No.
I think moving in before marriage is a great idea. My parents might think otherwise for super-strict-parent reasons, but I think you learn more about the other person's quirks, annoyances, preferences, etc. And you might also discover things you might not have wanted to know about but still figured out, and base if you're willing to stay with that person depending on that. I know one of my teachers had been engaged to her man for four years, moved in with him, and a year later broke off the engagement. It just didn't work for them, and it would have been an unhappy marriage (money was a huge factor--it was hard to compromise for them) for them. One of my dance teachers has been living with her boyfriend since they got together and learned to live with each other so early on that it's working out perfectly and now they have their own house and will be married soon--couldn't have seen a happier couple. It's really a great way to test drive the married life before signing into it.
You can always learn about your boyfriend by spending time with him, talking to him, going over to his house, etc. I don't think it's necessary or a good idea to live together before marriage--in my life, the couples who had sex and lived together before marriage all broke up, even if they planned on getting married. I also learned about the statistic in my very secular sexual health class in college. Plus, if you wait until marriage to have sex and live together, there's more to look forward to. And for the people talking about buying a car...would you rather have a new car or a used car if you had to pay the same price?
I think something to take into consideration is that most couples do live together before getting married! Those that don't, are more than likely religious, and religion doesn't really like divorce. So that statistic may be a littttle biased! I think moving in first is a good idea.
I think that everyone should look at that statistic/study from Dr. Harley in the right context. Even if you and your partner move in together, engaged, married or not, that doesn't guarantee that you're compatible OR that you're ready for marriage. People change and some might fall out of love. No amount of time spent moving in together is going to accurately predict those changes nor is it a good indication that you're prepared to be married. He is right in saying that marriage is serious, and living together might skew that perception, but in today's world where we have much more freedom to do the things we want (especially women) many people are going to choose to go their separate ways if they aren't happy, notwithstanding the fact that they lived together before or after marriage. Divorce is prevalent because we choose to make it that way, not because living together before marriage makes it so.
Aside from that, I am a full supporter of couples that choose what they feel is best in their relationship. If they want to live together before marriage, that's great. If they want to wait after marriage, that's great too. People are different, we all view everything differently, and we're all going to try to find someone that fits in with our lifestyle, beliefs, and choices. There is never going to be a systematic way of viewing love and what makes a marriage successful, even if we think we find a pattern in other relationships. We should all just respect each others choices and find what works best for yourself, not other people.
@loveable_lush@xanga - Great great great great great great great point! That's definitely something I didn't consider when I read his article.
@malabella@xanga - I defnitely agree with the "to each is own" perspective. What's right for one couple, might not be what's right for another.
I think people that move-in together usually (not always) get caught up in the "let's play house" mentality and end up moving in together too soon. After they live together, they figure "well, I guess the next step is to get married" since, let's face it, they're pretty much pretending to be married. I think that's what leads to divorce, not the fact that they lived together before marriage, but that they did it for the wrong reasons or weren't ready.
My fiance and I got engaged before we moved in together and we've been living together now for six months. Our wedding is something we've been planning for nearly two years now and it's finally coming up in nine months. I don't think moving in together before you're married contributes to divorce. I think moving in together with someone you're clearly not compatible with or for the wrong reasons contributes to divorce.