Saturday, 02 July 2011

  • I Know Who You Did Last Summer

    Before life was awesome with my boyfriend, one of the most fought about conflicts we had was about our past sexual histories. We didn't exactly meet or get to know each other in the best of circumstances, but sometimes all that bullcrap you get through in the beginning makes a way stronger foundation for a relationship later on.

    Not completely unfounded, I was really paranoid that his relationship with his ex-girlfriend had totally screwed him up for life and made him scared of trusting me completely. I called him out on maybe still being in love with her (no, that wasn't the case), or her trying to weed her way back into his life (she was not successful), but in the end concluded that he was scarred because of the way she manipulated him and turned their relationship into something that relied on all things sexual and nothing else.

    Being that I was "close" friends (more like she used me as her dumping site for all things confusing for her) with this girl and saw their relationship from start to finish, she would tell me everything. In detail. In all its private, glorified, horrifying detailthat I didn't really want to hear but which curiosity begged me to listen to anyway--an entire summer of it and then some. She dumped him randomly a couple of Decembers ago and started going out with one of my other close friends days later, and proceeded to encourage me and my now boyfriend into a relationship, knowing that I had a little thing for him.

    (And then of course she was seriously crazy-toxic and tried to wreck our lives, but that's another story for another day!)

    The worst thing for the first few months of our relationship is that when things got hot and steamy, and all I could think about was everything his ex-girlfriend ever told me. Ugh, uninvited third-wheeler ruining the moment, as always. I had such a big issue believing that their toxic relationship was still affecting him so I had to bring it up. Over and over again, until he admitted it was, but that he was trying to rebuild whatever she took away from him. I don't know if it was my competitiveness with wanting to be the one he'd always remember out of his relationship (if we didn't work out in the end), or just really wanting to reach that level of physical trust, for us to do as much as he had done with her in the past, but eventually we got all details out in the open. Talked about those inhibitions and doubts. Being really honest about what was holding us back from this, something I felt I wanted a lot more than he did back then.

    And somehow, we both cried, feeling more naked with our clothes on at that point than any other time.

    It took a lot of trust to not care or wonder anymore, and years later none of it matters to me because all of that craziness that happened with his ex-girlfriend passed over, and those battle scars no longer affect his perception of relationships. It doesn't affect us anymore, his inhibitions or my raging, proding curiosity. I'm happy, he's happy, we're doing our own thing together, and it doesn't matter what happened prior to the "us" stage because we started with a clean slate and started a new, more mature stage in our relationship.

    Aside from asking about possible venereal diseases, is it important for you to know someone's detailed (who, what, where, when, and how) sexual history before being involved with them? Is there a point when the number of past sexual relationships bother you?

Comments (18)

  • thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga

    Oh dear god no.

    My boyfriend asked me a bit about my sexual past when we first got together, and I didn't really want to know about his or tell him about mine. I told him a little bit about mine and he told me more about his, I think so that I would divulge more. With all of my past relationships before him I didn't really mind or care, but I knew I loved him like crazy so I didn't want to think about anyone else he'd been with. I also know that he only slept with people he really cared about, and I didn't. There were a few people I slept with who I definitely was not emotionally attached to, so I didn't want him judging me for that or thinking that I didn't actually love him. 

    As for the "number" that only bothers me if it's too low. He's slept with six people, which is fine. One of my exes had slept with over 100 people, which is a little much, but still didn't really put me off. 

  • ShirleyD@xanga

    quite frankly, i dont want to know who he did, how, when or any of that. as long as he is STD free, that is all i want  to know in regards to any past sexual activities. i dont want to hear how great his ex gave him head or how wild this one girl was in bed. no thanks. just me, him, our std free bodies tangled together is all.

  • RestlessPhoenix@xanga

    @ShirleyD@xanga - This is pretty much how I feel. I do want to know situations (girlfriends? one night stands?), but please, spare the details lest I become terribly insecure.

  • Hinase@xanga

    Of course it is important to a point, not incredible detail of course. I've told my bf about my old relationships (even though hardly nothing was done) and he has too. It's just good honesty and trust especially regarding health.

  • ccccourage@xanga

    Over time bits and pieces come out in the course of discussions etc, but I never ask for a total disclosure. It's just like one of us will ask, "did you ever do this or that..." etc 

  • reesa14@xanga

    Wow! This so closely resembles what me and my boyfriend had to deal with.

    His ex-girlfriend, who I was friends (not really friends, just lunch buddies)with in highschool was dating my now current boyfriend. She would go into every detail too, but luckily, a lot of it I didn't bother listening to (who really cares about someone else's boyfriend that you don't even know?). When they broke up (she left him for another dude) I felt it was fair game to date him. And so I did. But I had to deal with what I did remember hearing about their relationship. And let me tell you, its still a hard pill for me to sometimes swallow.

    But, like you said, you just gotta remember you guys started new and the past is the past. There's really not much more you can do about it. The more you pay attention to it, the more its going to cause problems.

  • Hermeown@xanga

    @thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga - Why would it bother you if it's too LOW? I specifically never wanted to know my ex's number because I was aware of how atrociously high it was. I think that makes more sense.

    Maybe if it's less than you, but still. O_o

  • reesa14@xanga

    @Hermeown@xanga - I know this question wasn't directed towards me, but I would still like to answer it.

    My boyfriend has only slept with one other girl besides me, and I too wish his count was higher. Knowing that he slept with only one other person, I can't help but be insecure about it from time to time. It's hard to accept that she was his first, and that besides me, he's only been with her. If he had slept with a few other girls I feel like I would feel better about it because I wouldn't have to compare myself to one specific girl. Of course I wouldn't be thrilled if he slept with 30+ girls, but then again that could be a good thing too. Because if he did have those meaningless hook-ups it would be comforting to know I was special enough to make a long term commitment with. I'm probably not make any sense lol oh well.

  • Hermeown@xanga

    @reesa14@xanga - Actually, that does make sense, now that you explain it. But I wouldn't say the number bothers me so much as the amount of experience. Would several times with one girl be better than several one-night-stands with several girls? I don't think so. I would be more comfortable with the one girl because it would demonstrate his commitment, whereas several girls would not. On the other hand, you're right -- if he was with a lot of girls and then stuck around for me, I probably am more special.

    I don't know. But I see your logic.

  • dangelb

    @reesa14@xanga - Does knowing all that stuff still kind of affect you now? I thought it would bother me forever, but the more comfortable I got in my relationship the better it became and everything she ever said stopped coming back to me every time we were having an intimate moment. I do understand what you're saying because that was the case with me, but now it really doesn't matter years into our relationship because we created our own relationship. I think it also really affected me before because I was once really close (best friends close, I guess) with the girl he dated before me.

  • haley1262@xanga

    As long as they're STD free i'm good, 
    The number doesn't really matter. 
    I'm sure mine's gettin' up there too. haha. 

    I don't mind sharing my sexual history though, but it totally freaks people out with how open i am. 

  • shimmers

    i had a similar situation with finding out things with my guy's past.  i did not like it one bit.  he voluntarily told me, i didn't ask. 

    one of my friends who i used to have a little crush on told me he had kinda hooked up with one of my other used to be friends while he met her out randomly. i don't ever see myself doing anything with him, especially now, but it's good to know that he hooked up with my friend because i don't do guys that hook up with my "friends."  it's good to know what guys have been with my friends. 

    i can't stand one of my friends because she would hook up with almost every one of my guy friends if she could.  in fact, she even introduced herself as she knows my friend she hooked up with randomly because of me.  and that pissed me the fuck off hearing that she's still doing shit like that which is why i stopped being friends with her in the first place.  she's also going on about being head over heals with this one other guy, yet she goes and makes out with other guys behind his back.  i could never do that to someone if i really, really, really liked them.  my friend she hooked up with and was leading on was telling me about her and i was disappointed. 

    with my guy, tho, i had hooked up with him a few weeks after started talking to him, and that's when he shared me who he had been with in the past, but because it was so long ago, i tried not to let it bother me.  i wish i had knew before i done anything with him and now we have been hanging out for almost 2 years bc we've become good friends, too, and the past doesn't matter anymore.

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  • reesa14@xanga

    @dangelb - Actually, it was kind of the opposite for me. When I first started dating my boyfriend, all that stuff with his ex rarely bothered me at all. But once I fell in love with him it started to all become really hard.
    I'm glad though that you started to worry about it less. There's really no need to worry about it in the first place. We're the number 1's :).

    @Hermeown@xanga - I understand where you're coming from too. I also believe it demonstrates commitment as well, so I feel like there's benefits to both sides.

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  • kor_girl@xanga

    I asked my fiance how many. He gave me a ball park "in between numbers" and I thought he editted or gave me a ball park because he knew how upset I would be if I had know the ACTUAL number.


    He didn't and does not ever want to know how many, although in my drunk-ass moments, I'm sure I had blurted it out a couple of times when he would argue that he's a "smooth player" (also drunk) when we argue about stupid things and end up as something BIGGER.


    But then, he lost his innocent virginity at the age where I was beating up boys who picked on my brother and played Hide-n-seek in the trees with my friends at twilight so there you go...Catholics..pssssh


    So I asked. He said he's not going to answer me. And it took me a long time to realize that it's 1000 times better that I don't know the details than if I had, I'd be hurt anbd feeling stupid, even guilty for prying, but because my never-ending chatter-thinking box would compare, analyze, and theorize if he ever compared me with no. what's her face, and if i did anything that reminded him of no. what's her name again, and blah blah to a point where I would go MAD!!!!

  • dangelb

    @kor_girl@xanga - Sometimes what you don't know can save you from lots of heartache! The paranoia and need to compare drove me insane, but if it does ever happen, remember you're his number one now and that ish doesn't matter anymore :) 

  • Camouflaged_by_night@xanga
    I've been attracted to guys who had high numbers that didn't bother me and others who had not so high that did. I think it depends on the person. I personally don't want my number to get much higher (I'm still in the single digits), but it's mostly because I don't want a future potential person to judge me negatively because of it. And though I know that's dumb (because if he doesn't want be with me because of a number, then he's not someone I want to be with), I still fear it.
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