Monday, 13 June 2011
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When the Boyfriend's Parents are Racist

I've been dating my boyfriend for six months now. He comes from a very Christian white (Dutch) family, and they're big on the traditional nuclear family thing... and the Bible. He has siblings who've married and produced the good old blonde-haired blue-eyed children, but they've all married within European backgrounds.My boyfriend has kind of strayed from these roots because firstly, he's dating me and I'm Chinese. I'm pretty happily rooted in my Chinese background and traditions. My family is huge on family time, so I'm with them very often and it's quite important to me, and so are the things we do with respect to Chinese traditions. He's decided that marriage isn't a big deal to him, and while he doesn't oppose it, it's not necessary unless I (though I know my family would) say so. He doesn't want children, but his parents keep asking him to give them brown-eyed grandchildren -- and the fact that I happen to be brown-eyed is all I have going for me right now. He's also NOT very religious.
Just last week, he accidentally told his parents he was dating someone and of course, they asked some questions. Ethnic background didn't come up (we both know it's because it's obviously assumed that he would date a nice white Christian girl), but he didn't volunteer that information either.
He has joked that he and his siblings say his father may have some sort of Tourettes because of the racist jibberish he's been known to spout, and if I should hear it, not to take it too personally. (And for the record, his siblings are open to him dating non-white. A few have known about me awhile now, though we've still never met, and the other day one of his brothers -- who married Dutch -- asked if he was going to do the same.) His parents' approval of me isn't a dealbreaker, but it is a big deal and he knows I'm anxious about his parents deciding they don't like me before they've even met me.
Like I said, family's a big deal to me. I'm afraid that even if I get along with his parents, my parents won't. Their English isn't the greatest and on certain conversational topics, it can be obvious they were raised in a different culture, as they both grew up in rural China. If people can't respect my parents, or they want to talk about me or them behind my back, I want nothing to do with them but I would never want him to end up ostracized because of me.
Since I still live at home, he's met my immediate family. I was actually more concerned MY parents would be the problem, but they love him and initiate my inviting him over more than I do sometimes. If they didn't like him for reasons other than race, I seriously would have reconsidered dating him, and they too have expressed concern over his parents not approving of an Asian girlfriend.
He met my siblings once when we all went to see a show together and they also get along. I don't want to force a meeting, and I don't want to force him to tell them outright that I'm Chinese as if WE think it's a big deal or we assume they'd react badly to it, and I definitely don't want to force him to force them to be okay with it. For the record, he is my first boyfriend so this would be the first family I've had to meet.
Besides being patient, what can I really do? Has anyone else been in a similar position? Did it ultimately work out? If your SO's parents initially didn't get along with you and/or your parents (if that was of importance to you), what did you do and how long did you wait before it became an issue?
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If he has already expressed to his parents that he is dating you, maybe you guys can set up a dinner. There is always the idea of fear that they won't accept you, but you would never really know until you try and experience the time with them.
I understand where you're coming from because I'm Chinese as well and family is important to me as well as the rest of my family. We are always told to get along with everyone and to stay away from bad influences.
Who knows? Maybe they will end up liking you and has lightened up on their son dating someone of a different ethnic background. Just give it a try and see if they would like to have dinner and meet you.
hmm so your boyfriend has the fever, does he...so typical.
i've never met a girl's parents before but i've also never been afraid of doing so. that's cause i'm kind of the shit, though. i think most parents would find it difficult to argue that i'm a poor pick as a boyfriend, as even racists know that their arguments are completely unjustified. anyway, my point being, you prove your worth through means that you control, not your race.
i can kind of understand your frustration. i'm not a big fan of the whole relationship thing (which is not to say i won't change my mind sometime in the future) but a friend of mine told me that i have no hopes of interracial dating because no girl wants to deal with the stereotypical indian parents (which my parents, for the most part, are not). such is life, i suppose. and sorry for that huuuge run-on, haha.
by the way, how long have you been seeing this guy, and how old are you, that you're considering marrying your first boyfriend?
But sometimes you might have to come to the position and reality that it might not work out(worse case). And his family might not end up liking you or your family may not end up liking him. The prejudices are hard to work around, I might say.
But I think if it comes down to that point, you have to decide if your happiness is overridden by the happiness of others (good god, that's the worse) or whether or not that you deserve your happiness over what anyone thinks. And how much you both love each other among other variables. And if it's serious enough, and if neither side likes any of you, then you have lots of tough choices ahead. Whether or not to stay together because it will be hard either way.
Hopefully, that doesn't come to pass like so many other people. Family I think is important up to a point. It's fine to be selfish in the matters of the heart. Just be tactful about it. Yeah, I'm in a situation like that but it's more about them not liking me as a person rather than my race. (I am mixed) after all. Though don't be alarmed if not everyone gets along and don't feel like you have to please people if they don't. Sometimes it doesn't happen.
But yeah, that is the worse case up there. ;P But in the meantime, hope that they will like you. Maybe have a dinner with both families? Maybe set up something they would all like to be doing? I wish you luck!
My aunt married a man who happened to be black. My grandpa threw a fit, and even threatened to not come to the wedding. My aunt and uncle have been married for about fifteen years now, and now my uncle and grandpa are like best friends. Even if his parents don't like you at first, give it time and they might change their minds. They might not, and that's definitely a risk. Oh, and even if his parents do like you, don't expect them to stop being racist. My grandpa still throws out embarrassing comments every now and again.
My husband's father did not approve of me. I did not meet him until my son was born. The second he saw my son, things changed. Give it time, maybe things will change and maybe they won't. People change all the time. People that are so wrapped up in their own prejudices that they don't even want to give others a chance aren't worth the time.
I agree with @love_and_blackberries@xanga - Even if they do accept you, you will occasionally hear something racist every now and then. For example, my MIL constantly talks about how she is glad her white trash neighbors finally moved and even back when they first moved in she would have rather a nice black family move in instead of the white trash one that lived there.
It sounds like you're really nervous, and maybe thinking too much about things that can go wrong. I would give them a chance to meet you, maybe they will be gracious. If not... well, then that becomes a serious issue. I would say that the biggest problem will probably be religion. And if you and the boyfriend are different religions, I don't think you should date. But if you and he are on the same page, it's just the parents that are different, then ultimately, they will have to come to terms with you guys living your life as you see fit.
i remember a boyfriends mom liked me but when she said something mean about hispanic people, my boyfriend laughed and told her i was hispanic.she was shocked due to my pale skin and said i didnt count since i was sweet. whatever that means. but i never took it serious. peoples ignorance is just that, ignorant. i say you two should relax, happily date, and when the day comes for you to be introduced to them, see what happens. everyone else in that family that has met you obviously like you and these are people raised by those youre afraid are racist! -_- just cuz his siblings happened to fall in love with caucasian people, doesnt mean anything. and my dad says stuff all the time that may be considered racist, but he isnt racist. he wouldnt care if i came home with anyone of a different background as mine as ling as the guy treated me right. so hopefully despite ur guys dads offensive talk, he will appreciate that his son is happy with you and thats what matters. so relax, date, marry if your boyfriend if he asks one day. forget youre chinese. forget he is of euro descent and just be happy. celebrate each of your cultures. but my goodness, get over this kinda shit.
Wow... I was in this kind of situation about half a year ago.
My ex is German and he half-jokingly told me beforehand that his father probably wouldn't mind, but that his mother might stare at me with that "why isn't she white?"-look. It eventually came to the inevitable meeting after a concert my ex took part in. We stood in the hall after the concert, introduced ourselves, chatted about their jobs, our studies, the couple shared a beer and went home, leaving me with the good feeling that I did everything right. That was the first and the last time I saw his parents.
Weeks after that, my ex finally came to the idea of asking me what was wrong with me on 'that' evening. I told him I didn't know what he meant, so he explained to me that the weekend after the concert, when he went visiting his parents, his father had a walk with him, man-talk included. Apparently, they had the impression I ignored them very much (he said "abservieren" - I have no clue how I should translate this) and said things my ex didn't want to repeat for me, since he supposed it to be insulting.
Was I hurt? Oh yes, you bet. Above all, I was very much confused. We stood together for maybe ten minutes and that's all it takes to judge me as *I don't know what they think since my ex doesn't want to tell me* However, not long after that, my first boyfriend and I broke up. I'm still figuring out what I did wrong
I had a very similar situation. Very serious Christian Dutch family, was my ex's background. He hesitated to tell his family he was dating me (half-Japanese). Now less than 6 months after we broke up he's marrying some white (probably very religious) girl. Sometimes religious and racial differences really do matter. Hopefully your situation will end up differently. Perhaps he'll be one to break the mold of his family (my ex's family all had siblings married and having kids, all white and Christian). It takes strong people to be their own person and not just follow in the path that is written for them.
Ignore anyone who uses the world "fever". That is bullshit. I have been in this position before. My ex won over my family with her personality. Don't worry, in the end, his family will want him to be happy. Just show them that is what you bring to the table. I am sure you are beautiful. Have confidence in yourself :)
I think my parents are racist towards certian ethnicities (not all, just some...its really silly and I call them out on it all the time). I can't imagine what they would say if I brought someone of a different race home.
If you really like the guy then go through with it, if not then let him go. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't date someone with racist parents even if I was in love with the guy because it's just not worth the pain that I would go through. In my opinion I think you should find someone (regardless of race) more accepting and stop putting yourself through hell.
I don't understand why many women judge a man based on his family, especially in these sorts of instances where the man is nothing like his family. If he is a nice guy, and his family is nasty, shouldn't he be encouraged in his ways rather than disposed of? If every woman disapproved a guy based on his family, he'd be doomed, even if he was a nice guy doing all he could to be a good person in this world. I certainly know I am not my family. Judge me by who I am. Similar argument with how you can judge a man by how he treats his mother. What bullshit. What if the mother is a rotten woman? If anything, judge a man by his friends, but even in that case, he may not have had the luck to meet nice people. If he hasn't been nurtured by his family rightly, who could blame him? Yes, I'm venting
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my boyfriends parents are the silent racists..I"m african american and my guy is latino. His mom and dad are very nice to me, but his 17 year old brother is actually on a household campaign to run me out of their! I"m not gonna let this little pipsqueek run my relationship...but I have a feeling his parents don't want me at their house either. I'm not Latin, I'm not Catholic....oh..I"m not thin either.
I'm German-American (white) and my boyfriend is 100% Korean. I was never worried about the racial differences, but I was - and still am - worried about the religious part. Although I am not greatly religious, my parents place a high importance on that sort of thing. They're meeting my boyfriend in two days, and I'm worried they will judge him negatively just based on the fact that he's a different religion.
It seems to me that they're not actually racist. They haven't said anything against Chinese people yet, just assumed their son would marry someone with a similar cultural background. Don't be too quick to play the racist card, when actually, you should probably be more concerned about the religion thing.
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My ex had traditional Korean parents and I met them a few times. I don't think they liked me because they wanted someone that was basically a blue print of the mom (dainty Korean housewife). I'm Chinese and I want to be a doctor. And I outweigh his 98 lb mom by....a significant amount >.
However, they do seem to like his girlfriend now, who is white, and they seem to be working pretty well. I think I softened them up :p
My boyfriend's family all seem to like me. I know for a fact that the male half like me -__- (creepy!!) My parents have had a few issues with my boyfriend, but mostly b/c our families are so different and things just don't get communicated as well between them. My parents did NOT like my ex though. There's a bit of racism existing between the Koreans and Chinese...
@rabbitsarecool14@xanga -
"It takes strong people to be their own person and not just follow in the path that is written for them."I absolutely love that sentence. I will forever quote you.
Okay, for the record I'm Chinese and female. I would never put my family through that kind of turmoil just because I like a guy. And I typically have some strong feelings for men. The religion thing is itself a big issue (I'm Christian, so in your situation it would be less of a problem) and bringing in race is a whole other issue. If your bf's parents were more tolerant or accepting, it would be less of an issue, but still worrisome. I always imagine myself as a part of my family in a marriage. This marriage will unite two families, not just two people. Sometimes we have to make the appropriate sacrifices for our families. I know he's your first and you probably think he's the one, but you'd be surprised down the road in most cases.
Yeah, the situation you explained with your boyfriend will probably be my situation if/when I start dating. My mom has told me that she doesn't want me dating a European, African American, Asian, Indian, Latina, Middle Eastern, or American girl. So uh, yeah.
But she could tell I liked my (Chinese) friend and encouraged me to ask her out. So I guess it's possible for people to come around? And if you knew my mom, you'd definitely have hope for your situation haha. I'm the only son in an overbearing Persian household: it doesn't get any more overprotective than that. Plus, my mom is really racist towards Asians. Hold off on being too concerned until your families actually meet?
@TheNotoriousGOD@xanga - why does it matter how long they've been together and how old they are?
Be quiet with yourself, with who you are, with your roots. If parents do not accept it, you'll have an awkward moment, but nothing more...Â
The important thing, in my view, is that he accept and respect YOU. His family... you do not choosed their family. You don´t have to adapt to them or please them. It is not an obligation. If they discriminate against you, that's a problem of them. Not yours.I think animals can be more loving than some humans.
Lol my mom has "jokingly" said that I shouldn't date anyone whose skin color is darker than mine. That includes indians, blacks, hispanics, and southeast asians (think Vietnam, Indonesia, etc.). So really, she gives me the option of white guys or Chinese, Japanese, or Korean guys.
Maybe a tad racist.
I am in a similar situation. My boyfriend and I are both Indians but of different geographical locations and even though there are so many similarities between our traditions, customs, food, music etc. it is still an issue that we're not of the same "Caste" and so on. It's sickens me to know that just because I'm from a different place I'm automatically deemed beneath his family. This has been an issue in my relationship for a while. His parents don't even know that I exist because of the fear of how they'll react. Mine will pose the same issue but they are so much more open minded and will be accepting. His? Not so much. At the end of the day, no matter the differences your significant other has to be willing to fight for you and the love you share. If he doesn't put up that fight then they'll never get a glimpse of how amazing you may be.