Wednesday, 25 May 2011

  • Hatingish Represent


    One of my writers has been getting harassed for her articles, and I'm sure you know who I'm speaking of if you read the site. She's one of my new interns and still trying to get a feel for Datingish. It's really discouraging (I guess that's the point of all the negative comments?) and demeaning to have a post dismantled like that. I think she has interesting stories to tell from a different perspective than what I typically have people submit to me. It may not be the most popular view, but her honesty and willingness to share how her dating life has unfolded should be commended.

    I will always post opposing opinions and differing views on similar topics to give everyone a look at both sides of the dating world.

    I love you guys (d'aww) and try to provide the best content I can with what I have at my disposal. I try to stay on topic as much as possible, as difficult as that may be (asasasas echo). But if we're going to sustain a quality site, I need help from the very people writing the negative comments, as well. Go ahead and be angry, but don't direct a diatribe towards her if it's getting to a point where she's being called a "cunt" and a "slut" among other things. It's okay to disagree and comment on it, but don't insult her like that over an article. Some of you are going a tad bit too far with the insults. Or... maybe I'm mistaken and you all have a perfect set of morals.

    In her latest post for example, I'm pretty sure she was using hyperbole to illustrate the point that guys who sit around and do nothing but play video games and jerk off are more likely to be unemployed, unmotivated and lacking any sort of productive passion in life. The way you say things is just as important as your main point, I know. Perhaps she needs to work on that, but without constructive criticism, all she's getting is the sense that she's being ostracized for her past experiences with men.

    Yeah, I'm playing the "papa bear" role and protecting my interns, but it's not just because I feel an obligation to. If I thought one of my interns wasn't providing anything of quality or controversy (without trolling) to get you all talking, I wouldn't choose to let them write for the site. I get a lot of submissions that would make grammar personified slit its wrists with a back slash to Esc from the cruel fate of being used in repugnant ways. Other times, I get great pieces. We're a community here, not a one-man operation. You're all important to the site and I don't pretend otherwise.

    If you want to help improve the site's content, turn that anger into a post and submit it. It'll be way more productive than issuing a hateful comment.

    But to ask all of you guys a question: What is it about the articles that bothers you most? Is it her tone? Do you just have a bad impression of her? Do you strongly disagree with her actions in the stories she shares? Irrational hatred?

Comments (145)

  • annamariuhh@xanga

    I read her posts, and a lot of them seem like they were trying to create controversy by trolling, or they just didn't portray her in a good light at all.  I mean, the fake reach?  I had ZOMG THE WORST DATE EVER because the guy didn't follow the perfect set-up to compliment me? 


    Most people cannot relate to that, and it's kind of an awful attitude to have, so the readers are offended.  People who actually blog for a living write to please their readers, right?

  • AsylumBlue

    @annamariuhh@xanga - So the problem is in her tone?

  • annamariuhh@xanga

    @AsylumBlue - She seems to view/complain about everything in a totally irrational way (related to dating), and she didn't gain any points when she said "WELP, I HAD A NEW BOYFRIEND'S SHOULDER TO CRY ON, SO IT'S K."  That offended a lot of people's morals, I think, which is amazing considering the ideas of morality related to dating on Datingish are pretty varied. 


    Also, honesty in a post is cool and all, but when you're posting on a website like this, you're totally opening yourself to catty and judgemental comments.


    Edit: I just read her most recent post about laid back, lazy hack, etc.  Tone and being judgemental herself is definitely a big part of it.  "He actually had a head set to talk to other gamers, UGH IT MAKES ME SICK."  It seems extremely nitpicky and judging.

  • mynameisblueskye@xanga

    I think the problem that everyone seems to focus upon is her approach towards men. More or less, the kind of self-gratifying direction that was being took. I knew her most controversial post was going to be some bit of trouble before I even started to read (read: Not really), but I didn't expect there to be so many scathing comments on the thing. Never since beautifullymindfull's post about dating married men has so many people want to tear her limb from limb. Truthfully, I was afraid for that woman. haha!

  • mynameisblueskye@xanga

    I would write about my experiences having a crush on my then-girl's best friend, but Datingish doesn't ever take two posts that are about the exact same situation. If they do, I'll submit the things I did.

  • AsylumBlue

    @annamariuhh@xanga - Alright, I appreciate the input. :]

    @mynameisblueskye@xanga - Hahaha. A pack of vultures we 'got here, eh?

    You should feel free to submit absolute anything. Worst case, it won't get posted or it'll be posted in the future due to an article on a similar topic being up recently.

  • mynameisblueskye@xanga

    @AsylumBlue - Well, I'm planning on posting about it anyway. If it doesn't make it. Screw it. then. 

  • GodlessLiberal@xanga

    She comes across as self-centered, and nothing is ever her fault. She stereotypes men (they don't have a power wardrobe or play video games? Then they're worthless) and blames them for all the problems she's had with dating.

    She openly talks about breaking up a friendship with no hint of remorse.

    She flat out states that it is the man's job to cover all date expenses, which is completely offensive to feminists such as myself.

    All in all, she seems like a very unlikable person who needs to look in a mirror to figure out the faults in her dating life.

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  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    I wasn't offended by the headsets thing because I don't play video games and could relate lol the people that got mad likely felt like they were personally attacked/judged because they didn't fit the lazy video gamer stereotype, but still had productive lives. or the tattoo post where the blogger asked why females got tattoos, which set off lots of insults. I wasn't offended about that either since I don't have tatts:D some people have replied to my comments calling me a whore and other names, so I'm not surprised, because I think those commentors took it personal because they thought of a situation unrelated to me, but someone else, who did them wrong in the past, so they saw me as that girl and hated me for no reason other than I reminded them of whoever the real person that they hated. so I think that's probably what happened here of how some people felt used in the past, so they felt the pain of the guy she was playing around with. then they unleash their anger towards this person because of grudges psychological transference.

  • KasumiCelesta@xanga

    I'm just coming back from a xanga hiatus, but I already knew who you were talking to from one recent article I read prior to this. The writer in question seems kind of naive, despite all of the dating experience she seems to have. I guess if she's telling her honest feelings, that's cool, but it was a bit disturbing that she seemed to have no remorse for the guy she broke up with, and even went as far as turning the blame on HIM for what he did afterwards and making herself seem like the innocent victim. A lot of people were angered to read about such a seemingly immature and selfish person.

    However, that's no excuse for name-calling. Controversial posts can be met with criticism, but calling the writer a "cunt" or a "slut" or a "bitch" or a "dumbass" or anything else is just immature.

  • HeLLo_Bianca@xanga
    I think her problem is how judgmental she is. I agree that people left her some mean comments. I was like o.O
  • mynameisblueskye@xanga
  • Hinase@xanga

    @GodlessLiberal@xanga - Maybe so, but that shouldn't mean everyone should insult her. People went way too out of line on her last post. I feel like a lot people need some talking to but generally I shut my trap. Insulting them is not the way to go with it. Usually, they have to find it out by themselves. Insulting them only brings us lower to their level.

    @KasumiCelesta@xanga - I agree


    @P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga - Probably. I had one guy troll on my pulse. I swear, he was bitter about his experiences.



    OP:
    Yeah, people were disgusting on that post. I was seriously disgusted by how they acted. I think no matter what, she doesn't deserve to be insulted no matter how bad a of person she might be or seem to people. People need to get off their high horse, seriously. 
  • GodlessLiberal@xanga

    @Hinase@xanga - On the breaking up the friendship one, I've been on the losing end on that situation. It hurt like hell, and her being so goddamned cavalier about it irked me. To me it was like saying "yeah, I ran over a pedestrian, but my dad's a lawyer so I didn't spend any jail time." No admission of guilt or wrong doing, just joy at not having anything negative happen.

  • thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga

    Nobody's attacking her tone. Her actions are the problem. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who uses men the same way I wouldn't want to associate with a guy who uses women.

    I realize you feel the urge to "protect" her, but if some guy was writing articles about how he cheated on his girlfriend with her best friend and then mocked his girlfriend for being upset, and got pissed off at her for saying he was "cute" but not "handsome," made all of his dates pay for his meals, and then somehow still managed to think that the majority of women are lazy and worthless, I feel like you'd probably have a less protective stance.

  • Hinase@xanga

    @GodlessLiberal@xanga - I know it hurts like hell. I've been in those situations myself. But the thing is there will always be people like that. You can't really change that. It irks me too but you can't really do anything and I think it's wasting your time to insult this person as it won't make much of a difference. Believe me it won't. I've dealt with these kinds of people before. I realized it is not worth much to say anything. 

  • DarkWaver@xanga

    hate is too much work and it won't change a damn thing. Constructive criticism makes for better talk.

  • makerm7@xanga

    Ok, I had to be certain that I was thinking of the same person before I made a comment.  


    I don't believe I have ever left a comment on any of her posts but I have to say that whenever I read anything she writes I leave with a bad taste in my mouth.  It's like men are at her disposal and everyone should bow down at her feet and worship her.  If I read a post written by a man that had the same tone and attitude I'd be pissed off.  
    "Here, let me brag about the fact that I treat people lower than the dirt beneath my feet.  And how dare they not kiss my feet and worship me while they're down there?" is the attitude that I get whenever I read something written by her. 
    She's a great writer but I wouldn't associate myself with her in RL and I have no plans of reading her articles in the future.  That being said, people need to get a life and stop bashing. There are more productive ways of giving criticism or they can do as I will be and ignore her completely. 
    I feel bad for even writing this (as I am talking in a negative light towards her and I just said that we shouldn't do that) but I am just trying to truthfully answer your question.  
  • sabbygurl@xanga

    at first, i didn't read the article that was posted until this post.  why?  because the title already seemed unappealing to me.  i already figured it would be someone complaining about past negative relationships and what ruined what.  my mother taught me that if i have nothing good to say, or can't say something "rude" in a nice manner, not to open my mouth at all.


    the issue is that people are fed up with stories that portray a one sided issue.  sure, people could spend time writing a counter argument post, but most people would rather comment.  yes, she's entitled to her opinion, but i think most people don't like that "entitled" attitude she gives off.  she lays blame to others without any retrospect into herself and what she did in the situation other than just sit there and watch it happen.  
    @thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga - i totally agree with you here.  if it was a man writing what was written, there'd be no question about how jackass-ish everything was.  
  • AsylumBlue

    @sabbygurl@xanga - @thisiswhereItellyoueverything@xanga - There was actually an intern recently who was getting a ton of hate on Lovelyish for his articles about women and fashion. He posted a couple of times on Datingish, but they weren't really "offending" anyone. To offer a reply though, I would have done the same for him if he had been posting those articles on Datingish. I promise.

  • Asinine_Dreams@xanga

    I can respect you for defending this woman; it's quite admirable.

    But I think @GodlessLiberal@xanga pointed out mostly everything that was wrong with her posts.

    Specifically with her best friend post, maybe that was just her relaying her past experience, and perhaps she did learn from that experience. The huge problem is that she showed no sign of that in her post; instead her post made it seem like she still feels like she was completely in the right to do what she did.

    All of her posts irked me, but I've never really insulted her -- I've mostly just kind of made fun of her through remarks like "please be a troll lol" but that post about video gamers was basically my boiling point since like I said on the post, it struck a personal chord with me, and I called her a bitch. So if it was a "huge hyperbole" then yeah. She might need to work on better conveying that, especially since whether you like it or not, people will judge her based on her previous posts which all reek of shallowness and snottiness.

    I'll curb my insults though if she posts anything next time. Keep doing what you're doing, Papa Bear. ;]

  • wizexel22@xanga

    I'm gonna go with tone.....and also some grammar issues.

    haha come on.  do you really think people are getting angry or offended because of just TONE?

    but to answer your question (which should be self evident already...) ..... I think what's offensive is her judgmental attitude, her arrogance, ego, superficiality, gold-digging, irrational thoughts and actions, immaturity, and lack of humility, remorse, or self-awareness in her actions.

    personally, I'm not offended at all about anything she's said....since none of it pertains to me in any way. but I can understand (and so should she) how others would be offended if they relate to the situation. personally, my problem with the posts are.....they are just plain ANNOYING. you can only take so much of reading about an immature and superficial girl, who acts irrationally (flipping out cuz a guy called her cute but not pretty) or coldly (almost breaking up a friendship) and then is usually judgmental in some lame way about it, without ever taking one iota of responsibility for the situation. and to top it all off, the posts are written in a whiny and complaining and irritating way. I actually feel dumber for reading the posts, and then I get angry at myself for falling in the trap of reading her posts again and again (I must say, her titles are quite catchy!). the combination of the ridiculousness of the post, the knowledge that I have lost another 2 IQ points (which makes 6 total after reading 3 posts), combined with my guilt of falling for the trap again makes me want to stab my own eyes out with a blue Bic ball point pen.

    of course, if she actually despises men and the point is to get all men on Xanga to stab their own eyes out with various writing utensils ....then I applaud her genius.

    @GodlessLiberal@xanga - I agree. I can see how this would be extra annoying to someone who went through a situation like that. I also like the analogy.....cept I think some of her situations are more like  "yeah, I ran over a pedestrian, but he really shouldn't have been walking on the sidewalk in broad daylight."

  • JinnLedet@xanga

    There's nothing wrong with publishing her posts. Please continue, it gives hope to many people in depression knowing that there's something out there even more pathetic than they are.


    Thank you on behalf of all those depressed/ losing hope in life, you have renewed their will to live.
  • emily_shannon@xanga

    @JinnLedet@xanga - That was actually my same idea, in fact I pulse'd something along those lines after finishing a Datingish article. Mean? Yes. But entirely completely true.

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