Sunday, 03 April 2011

  • Is "Quality Time" Nonexistent These Days?

    My boyfriend and I live together in a fairly small basement suite, and on every day of the week except for Tuesdays, we also share the space with his four-year-old daughter. Most of the time, this living arrangement works out well for all of us, and I'd consider us a pretty happy little family unit. I love my boyfriend, and I love his daughter, and I'm getting extremely used to being a "step-mom" sort of figure.

    Now, with that being said, I am only 21. A lot of the time, I don't really get to be 21 anymore, because of the responsibilities that come with a boyfriend with a young child. So on Tuesday nights, the one night of the week that my boyfriend and I have to ourselves, I like to spend quality time with my boyfriend. Apparently, my boyfriend doesn't get what "quality time" is.

    This evening we found ourselves in a huge fight, because I was hoping we could go out and do something grown up, like go out for a drink, or even go to a late movie. He, on the other hand, made plans to go over to his friends house to play video games. Now, he goes over to his friends' houses all the time, his daughter in tow, because she loves his friends, enjoys watching the video games most of the time, and brings toys so she entertains herself.

    So I got angry that he made plans to do something he can do with or without his daughter around, when I was hoping we could have some quality time without his daughter. He then proceeds to tell me that since he sees me all the time, we spend tons of quality time together because we live together, but he doesn't get to spend quality time with his friends because his daughter is always there.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but is doing laundry or cleaning the house or running errands (with a four-year-old) really considered quality time? Or am I right in being hurt that my boyfriend ditched me on our only night alone?

Comments (20)

  • CecilliaMarie@xanga

    I'd be pretty upset too, so I think you have every right to feel that way.


    Having said that, how did you approach him about the whole quality time thing? I know sometimes if I approach my husband a certain way (like with a certain tone, attitude, etc), it frustrates him and makes him think I'm nagging him...and we get into a fight. But if I sit down with him calmly and explain why I feel the way I do, he's really good about seeing things from my point of view and trying to solve the problem with me. 

    Also, I'm not saying this is a good excuse for him ditching you, but does he ever get any time to himself just for him? When you guys were fighting about quality time, he might have just felt smothered with everything. Taking care of a four year old, working, errands, etc and on the one night he didn't have his daughter he might just have wanted time alone. Just something else to keep in mind and maybe ask him about.

    I hope things work out!!
  • clumsyandunaware@xanga

    I've got similar problems as you.  And no, I don't think you're at fault for feeling like that.  Guys just don't understand what quality time is.  My boyfriend and I also live together, and rarely have time to ourselves, but when we do, he's always got something else to do.  It's really infuriating. 

    Stand your ground, girl.  Don't back down because I think it's a battle worth fighting.

  • Hinase@xanga

    Quality time to me is spending time with your SO, no matter what you're doing. It can be the little things like doing laundry or even help cleaning the house. It's still quality time. Or it can be the big things like going out or eating out. It really depends but it helps to talk to your bf or the one you're dating about quality time because people have different ideas to what it is.



  • AnonymousBlonde@xanga

    A) "Quality time" is spending time together, in my opinion.  Yes, that means even doing small, mindless tasks, like laundry, food shopping, or meal prep.  No, that doesn't exclude "couple time" (where you do special things together), but you shouldn't make things out to be a competition of couple time vs quality time.

    B) I'd say you're justified in feeling hurt since he did something he could do any day of the week, whether or not he's with his child.  Going out for drinks or having a nice meal out isn't something you can do with a small child in tow (although the meal could be debatable depending on whether or not the child is well-behaved in public spaces). 

    C) Like CecilliaMarie pointed out, he might have just wanted a night to himself with his buddies.  While that might not make your hurt feelings any better, it doesn't mean that he was ditching you - it just might mean that he felt overwhelmed and stressed and wanted a break for a few hours from his kid and his girlfriend. 

    In the end, just take a deep breath, assume an even tone, and talk calmly with him about it.  Don't accuse and don't blame because he'll be more likely to roll his eyes and walk away from the conversation without anything being resolved.  Just ask him why he chose to spend the time with his friends instead of with you and listen to his answer, then ask him if he'd like to go out on a date the next night you two are without his daughter since you feel as though you two don't get to spend enough couple time together.

    Anyway, good luck.  Hope things work out and this is just a small bump in the road.

  • lttlegel@lovelyish

    Obv you two have different ideas of what quality time is. I completely understand you wanting to spend some time just the two of you & don't get the chance for that often. But I also understand him wanting time for himself/with his friends.


    My suggestion - explain how you're feeling, but be willing to compromise. Let him go out with his friends on his own, but suggest a date night for JUST the two of you once a month. Even allow him to pick which Tuesday it is, so he won't feel obligated. Date night btw can mean a variety of things, a picnic if it's nice out, dinner and/or a movie, a board game at home, cuddling & a movie at home, mind blowing sex, etc...


    I think this be beneficial to both of you... he should understand that you're not trying to push him away from seeing his friends or having time for himself, but that you also want time for just the two of you. And you'll feel better knowing once a month you will get your quality time you desire:)

  • Footballblogs@xanga

    Friends are important in a relationship. Why not both take the night off and see friends, but then come home earlier than usual to be with each other? 



    Do not make the guy pick between his friends and yourself. Tbh he would 100% pick you, but he would also feel friendless, so talk to him bout this, sort out a compromise and move on to the next challenge :)


    Thats my 2 cents
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  • fields_of_sunflowers@xanga

    You should have spoken to him in advance about his plans. He wasn't to know you wanted to spend alone-time with him - he's not a mind-reader! I understand where you're coming from, but you do need to understand that unless you tell him what you want to do, he won't know!

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  • akatiegirl

    I think you're justified in feeling this way...to a point.  Did you mention to him beforehand that you wanted to have a date night with him?  Because if not...I can't really blame him for making other plans.  I think the problem here is a simple breakdown in communication.  If you ask--without any edge to your voice--for a date night, give him more notice than "Hey, let's go out tonight."  He's allowed to make plans without you if you don't ask him for time outside your apartment...because, honestly, he does spend all of his time with you.  If you need something more, you have to tell him.  Because men aren't mind-readers, and if you don't tell him exactly what you want/need, then you can be mad, but you can't take it out on him.  Instead, learn from this and try talking to him when you're less angry.  Nothing will be solved if he's on the defensive, but if you're reasonable in your approach, you can come to an understanding that will work for both of you.

    Bottom line, you're not being unreasonable, but neither is he...

    Good luck.

    -Katie

  • xSayakax@xanga

    It sounds like what you want is a private date alone with him. You have to tell your bf your definition of quality time.  You have to explain to him straight what you really mean because apparently, your bf thinks differently about quality time.  I understand how you must feel, especially at that age where you should enjoy yourself and be able have your "couple's time."  Just try to explain to him calmly and hope he can see from your point of view. 

  • Doubledb@xanga

    I would say you are both "justified" in your feelings, let me explain: You are justified wanting some time alone with him and he is justified in wanting to spend time with his friends. The problem was that both of your desires conflicted. You guys have to start planning things ahead of time, otherwise, dont be mad/angry when the other person is doing something else.

    I am 28 & run into this with my friends a lot because we all have such off schedules, so if I call or get called and am busy, you can get bitter or you can ask them to make time soon. Just as with any relationship, you have to make time for it, even if it means scheduling time. I got use to being able to schedule or be spontaneous whenever I wanted in college; however, once I graduated, it is best to schedule quality time - it is a mutual commitment. And if someone in a relationship or friendship them doesnt care about making that commitment or doesnt follow-thought with it, then I think you have bigger problems.

    You also have to realize, and many others, that in living together, you are dealing with a problem many married people deal with, except there is not that commitment of marriage there too. I am not judging, merely saying there is an extra difficulty involved in living together (also with a child involved) while not committed/married.

  • xSerendipity713x@xanga

    I'd be upset too. If yous don't get much time to go out and do things together, that should be more important and come first.

  • cubancutiepie@xanga

    You have a right to be upset. Quality time is time that you are engaged strictly on the person you're spending it with.......quality time can be just sitting, talking to each other face to face, or going to dinner, or doing drinks......anything where the attention is strictly on each other and each other alone. You may spend a lot of time together, but most of that time is spent engaged doing other things and not really paying attention to one another or nurturing your love, you have to get him to understand that.

    Just make sure to bring up the fact that you'd appreciate a nice outing with him so he knows to set aside that time for the two of you.

  • LaBellaMorena

    @Doubledb@xanga - @xSayakax@xanga - @akatiegirl - @individually_surveys@xanga - Agreed.

    @Doubledb@xanga - Very well said. 

    I disagree with the people who said that quality time is anything you do together, no matter how mundane. I once dated a guy who was literally busy all day, every day, with the exception of every other Saturday morning. And sometimes, even then, he'd be doing his homework (he's currently getting his degree). On days when I would go over to his place and he was doing homework, he would be reading or writing or both--not looking at me, not talking to me, no physical contact with me...I could have just as easily been in the other room or at my own house. Quality time is more than just being in the same room. To me, it's time spent focused on each other, and on enjoying your time together, not on running errands and doing laundry. 



    That said, you said that you "hoped" you could spend time with him, but you didn't mention actually telling him that. If you don't communicate what you want, you can't expect him to know, so if you didn't make plans with him, he has every right to make plans with his friends. You should definitely calmly and sweetly tell him that you would really like to spend some time with him doing something special, and explain to him what quality time means to you and how happy it would make you if (at least sometimes) he spent that one off night with you instead of someone else. Communication is key.
  • addicted2tats@xanga

    Well you are spending time with him while the child is around but it's not

    alone

     time. He should of spent it with you instead. I take your side.

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  • Revolutionary22@xanga

    Yeah, no.  He definitely needs his away time, just like you need your away time.  He sees you every day and night?  Let him go hang out with his friends without you around.  You go hang out with your friends without him around.  It's too damned simple.

    And if you're one of those women that's gotta have her head up her man's ass every hour of the godsblasted day then grow the three balls motherfuck up.  There's little more irritating than a needy woman.

    And here's a tip.  If you and he both go out with your separate friends for the night and you fuck his brains out at the end, I can promise he'll love you ever so much more.

    I am man, and I have spoken on this issue.

  • lyrra_askavi@xanga

    You don't need to be a step mom at 21. If he has a kid, isn't with that girl, and would rather go play video games, then screw it. Everyone needs SO-free time, but if this is a recurring thing, then leave. You're obviously not in his priorities. You're young and able, find someone who doesn't have baggage (read: kid) and allow yourself to be in a good, romantic, and consummate relationship. 

  • SOUND_of_FRICTION@xanga

    GIRLLL HELL NO!!!

    Especially since you're so young and you're forced to do his grunt work.... ? That doesn't seem fair at all. And he considers that "quality time"... If that were me, I would tell him to spend quality time with his video gaming buddies by doing the laundry and cooking... and that you'll do the fun activities with him instead :)

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