Monday, 21 March 2011

  • Does "Past the Point of No Return" Exist?


    I don't know how many of you have listened to The Phantom of the Opera's Past the Point of no Return, but I know the story was based on a very old fashion mentality. Not that women have ever really belonged to men but they have at some point you can say (or vice versa in a sense).

    We have the issue of women giving themselves to men (being deflowered) as a sign of their love. Hence she belonged to him in return and her love would be forever his...

    We also have those instances where women or girls would get pregnant to basically trap the man (which was a stupid idea to begin with) that they loved and, well, that's what they used to call a "shotgun wedding" where presumably her father would carry a shotgun to make sure Mister "I deflowered the princess and got her pregnant" wouldn't escape.

    There was/is the vow of Marriage: a sacred act in many religions and a contract by law to stay together forever. But nowadays, with divorce being at an all-time high, and many single mothers making a life for themselves, are we to assume "Past the Point of no Return" no longer exists in relationships?

    Is no one willing to put the effort to really get to know the person correctly or stick it through the 'thick and thin' of the challenges you're to face? Everybody gives up too easily. A challenge appears and some "run and hide" instead of working on it as a couple the way it should be done.

    Frankly, in my life I believe it does (or could) exist and I'm willing to let it play out in that way. Once I feel I've gone past the point of no return, I will not look back but look forward to what's next. But I'm a little more old fashioned. What does society think? What's in this New AGE?

    Do you believe "Past the Point of No Return" exists (maybe in your life)?

Comments (14)

  • SpOnTaNeOuS_sPiTbAlL@xanga

    i'm sorry, i know this is off topic but mmmm gerard butler as the phantom

  • MarksBeneathTheSkin@xanga

    I don't understand anything you're saying. What does the point of no return have to do with anything? Everyone's different. Everyone thinks different. All relationships are different. Some are old fashioned. Some are not. So, the answer to your question is, it depends on the person.


    You could have done a much better job writing/editing this to make it make more sense. I had to read it 3 times to even get what you were trying to say.

  • Insomnia_Pickles_XtraTomato@xanga

    @MarksBeneathTheSkin@xanga - yeah i agree. exactly what is the point of no return? marriage? or sex? or a part of your relationship you can't recover from? idk what exactly you're saying...

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    well, personally for me, if he ever lays a hand on me and physically abuses me even just once, it is immediately over, and no matter how much he apologizes, that is my point of no return.

  • houseofquinn@xanga
    I think that people give up in marriage way to easy. & people jump into marriage way to fast & for the wrong reasons. I'm pretty sure that those couples that have been married for 20+ years would tell you it's not easy.

    I'm a little old fashion also, but getting married for a kid isn't always the best solution.
  • sassypenguin@xanga

    I feel like my boyfriend and I are past the point of no return, but it doesn't mean we are really stuck. I just feel like neither of us will ever want to break up now that we've invested so much into this relationship so we might as well keep trying harder and harder to keep it together. I feel that we are past the point to which I would break up with him (or vice versa) because I've invested so much that I don't want to lose all my time and effort.

    But if it came down to it and one of us became abusive or cheated, its not like we couldn't then terminate the relationship.

  • xhalesx@revelife

    There is definitely a point of no return for me in my life. I'm old fashioned too, but I also have my religious values. So sex (with my HUSBAND) is the point of no return.


    In this day and age it's crazy how fast people give up on marriage. I don't think a marriage should be ended under any circumstances except for infidelity and danger (And ever in those two situations it shouldn't be an abrupt end. Conversations need to occur).
  • theflowerstem@xanga

    I guess the point of no return would be having kids. Even if you guys don't get married (or are married and divorce) you still have to put up with him.

  • WaitingToShrug@xanga

    That scene is so steamy.


    @SpOnTaNeOuS_sPiTbAlL@xanga - Yeah. :)


    OP: Some people don't ever see a relationship as something they can't get out of. My point of no return was when we said the vows. That or children should link you with someone forever.


    And of course, you can never go back to being a virgin, though that doesn't seem as important now as it would have been then.

  • ForeverLove_xx@xanga

    What? I stopped reading halfway through because this post is just confusing. 

  • xSayakax@xanga

    I think it depends on your values and like you said, some people are old fashioned as well.  I think you should really think about your relationship with that special someone before marriage and once you decide on staying together, then that's the point of no return (it should be).  I think people nowadays either get married too quickly or they get divorces without actually trying to work out their problems.  The old fashioned way is for you to stick through thick and thin.  Yeah, if your husband/wife is abusive or having an affair, then a divorce is best, but small problems like arguments that normal couples have anyways, should just be resolved as a couple.  Divorce should be the last resort.  So I think, the point of no return exists, it's just that people have changed their views and many doesn't want to face a challenge anymore.  Relationships are tough, but when you are able to pull through, it means so much more and it's worth it. 

  • ccccourage@xanga

    I also find this post very confusing. In my head, and in my culture "the point of no return" refers to a point when two people are in a sexual circumstance and after getting heated up, it's all go, go,go. Saying "no" is no longer a viable option.

    I've never heard that term used in the sense of the entire romantic relationship.

    In my culture, there is no longer an acceptable "point of no return" in either circumstance. If either partner says "no" at any time, the other one has to accept it or face some consequences. Neither a rape charge OR a divorce is cheap, nor is the emotional wear and tear that occur when a couple ceases to agree on the direction they are going.

    I know when my husband initiated divorce there was a time when I felt reconciliation was an option. After we got further along in the process and some shit had gone down, I wasn't willing to reconcile no matter what he said or promised. Now I understand the saying "it takes two people to make a relationship, but only one to end it"

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  • sastsuki@xanga

    i just think it depends on who youre with

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