Tuesday, 14 December 2010
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Hanging Out With Another Guy While Your Kid Is Sick? Get A Grip!

Just recently, a good friend of mine, let's call him Nathan, broke up with his now-ex-girlfriend. Let's call her Jamie.
The first time I met her was at a Halloween party being held by another friend of ours. She seemed really nice and all, but there was something about her that was not right. I heard from my fiancé that she has two kids so she's a single mom. I never cared why she has two kids but not married, until the break up happened.It all began with them planning to meet together with Jamie's mom, and both agreed. Later on, Nathan came to Jamie's house, and Jamie was nowhere to be found. He tried calling her cell phone, but she never picked. On top of that, her son was sick with a cold. So where is Jamie?
It turns out that Jamie went out with another guy, drinking and hanging out. Not to mention that the guy she hung around with deals with drugs, according to what I heard. My fiancé was the first one to hear about this from Nathan. I talked to Nathan that night through FB chat, and mentioned that I heard from my fiancé about what happened. I comforted him, and said that he needed someone better than her. I am happy to hear from him that he is moving on, and doesn't want to be involved with her anymore.This sickens me.
First of all, her son is sick. Doesn't she supposed to be there to take care him, instead of getting drunk?
Second, she was hanging out with another guy who deals with drugs. Really? When I look at this from my perspective, which I grew up in a well-rounded family, the guy is a bad influence.
And third, with all those happening, does she think that she's setting a good example to her kids when they have kids of their own? I don't think so. When I have kids, everything from going to clubs to drinking is gone. I want to settle down, and take care of my kids before I think of what I want to do. Plus I can't find happiness in alcohol or drugs. If I look into those, I become materialistic, and it would become something that would make me depressed. I would depend on alcohol or drugs to keep me going for a while until it becomes an addiction, which is not good.
Finally, she just cheated on Nathan. But why? Is it because of Nathan suffering from MS? Is she happy with Nathan? Whatever the reason is, it's unacceptable. Maybe that's why she has two kids to take care of on her own. I think she is setting a bad example because a mother cannot do that. A mother should be there taking care of their kids.So what we learned from here? Don't go anywhere if your kid or one of your kids is sick. set a good example, be faithful with your loved ones, and happiness cannot be found in materialistic things. Do something that you like to do like drawing, or read a book. That way you are happy doing something you like, and at the same time, you are within reach with your kids.
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I dont like to judge how people parent.... well, yeah I do. That stuff would piss me off too. When you have kids, they should be your number one priority. If not, don't have kids. Or let someone who actually wants to be a parent take care of them.
It sounds to me like she had kids before she grew up herself.
I say that we have no idea what it's like to be somebody else, and unless they are beating their children or something along those lines, we should stay out of it. We can make judgements on people, as long as we realize that we don't really understand where they are coming from or what their life is like.
Well if the kid was all alone with no one watching him, they should call a social worker. But my cousin has three kids and when they're sick she leaves them with me and she goes out to a club or to a movie. It's really no big deal. A lot of parents say they're done with clubs and stuff when they have kids but then there are those days where you just want to drop everything and go to one party or club with some friends and your SO and that's totally fine. But this chick needs to get checked out and needs some counseling.
as far as drug dealers go, efff that. that in itself spells trouble. your friend is puttting herslf, as well as her children, in danger. drugs get violent.
AS MOTHER SHE SHOULD BE WITH SICK CHILD NO MATTER WHAT SITUATION..... SHE MUST BE SELFISH FOR SURE AND ABOVE ALL WHEN KIDS GROWN UP THEY WILL NOT HAVE RESPECT FOR HER AND KIDS FEEL ABOUNDED ALL TIME...
The only thing I take issue with here is the idea that once you become a parent, you're never allowed to go out to the bar or something. That's flat out ridiculous. Maybe I'm biased because I became a parent very young but IMO, you don't become someone completely different just because you becomea parent - you're still YOU, you know? Yeah, your life changes dramatically, but that doesn't mean you can never have any 'adult' fun! I don't go out nearly as often as many people my age, I'd say maybe once or twice a month, and I think I would lose my sanity if I didn't have time to go out and just be me rather than being "mom", you know? Some people are born to be parents and that makes them happier than anything else in the world 24/7. That's fine and dandy for them, but as much as I completely adore my daughter, quite frankly I would lose my shit if I never got a break from her.
That said, I would never drop her off with someone if she was sick. When she's sick, she wants Mommy and I'm not going to deprive her of my attention & care just because someone is having a party. While I'm a big advocate of not losing yourself after kids come, I'm also very much for putting the kids first, especially in situations like this where one is sick.
I would've called her out on it. My brother in law is a retard about his kids but when I slammed him with the reality of what he had been doing he straightened up. Only after you bring her actions to her attention can you call child services if you really want to.
okay dramaqueen! sounds to me like you're sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. its alllll hearsay. it was their relationship, not youuuuurs.
If you have a responsible adult watching your (sick) child while you're out, I see no problem with it. As long as its a minor sickness that would go away in a few days. But if it was serious and he may need to be hospitalized, then perhaps, I see where you are coming from.
Just because you're married or a single parent does not mean you have to watch your children 24/7. Sometimes you do need a time out and enjoy yourself, too.
It depends on if she does this all the time. I would start to resent the fuck out of my mother if she did that all the time. I can't name one person I know who had that happen to them that doesn't want to slap the shit out of their mother after being clearly neglected like that. It's fine to go out and have fun sometimes but I don't think some people have taken into account the fact that the guy she went to see is a drug dealer. How many times have we heard of the trashy bitch mother that has a shitty drug dealing boyfriend that beats the shit out of the kid. I can't even count how many times that story comes up. I know parents don't want to be judged and all but you just brought a human being into this world. If you fuck up, who knows what they're going to turn out be. It's usually never someone productive and mentally sound, Ill tell you that. Fuck up a few times, fine, we are human. Fuck up so many times we might as well wonder how the hell you're still alive? Not so cool.
But given the only details that this post provided I can only say that she should have at least had a babysitter present. Leaving the kid alone while you're out drinking(assuming the kid was under 12)was stupid. And of course cheating on her friend wasn't exactly good.
And as for the friend butting in? If children are involved, I'm sorry, but there is no such thing as "butting in" when it comes to that. Maybe the cheating because it truly isn't her business and it's something the guy can deal with on his own. But when it comes to children, with as many cases of abuse there are, privacy in regards to how you chose to take care of your children cannot exist as much anymore. This isn't the 1950's where you suspect someone is mistreating there child and you sweep it under the rug. I mean you also can't report everything to Social Services because you might have made a mistake. But people have every right to question a parents way of doing things these days. If you don't like it, don't have a kid. Thank all the assholes the fucked up millions of children over the years, not the people that is trying to look out for them.
This isn't any of your business.
@SpOnTaNeOuS_sPiTbAlL@xanga - My thoughts exactly!
I'm sorry but this all just hearsay and none of your business at all....and since when did a cold constitute crisis mode? Seriously, you don't know anything about her, her kids, or what her relationship was like with your friend.
@Gorrific@xanga - agreed
Well... "drug dealer" really depends on context. I know perfectly wonderful human beings who sell weed for a living and are every bit as functional in society as anyone else.
As others stated it is also ok to go on dates if you are a single mother- provided the kid has a sitter or is old enough to be at home alone.
I totally know where you're coming from because one of my cousins is basically doing the same thing. Yes, it pisses me off because this is my niece we're talking about but at the same time it's not my business and it's extremely judgmental to shit on parenting skills because they want to go out and have some fun.
Granted, there are better ways to go about having fun as an adult than leaving your kid at home and going out drinking with random people, but I still understand the need to just leave it all behind once in a while. If you were a single mother, do you think you'd be able to take care of your kids everyday?
I also don't think that the drug dealing friend is too big a deal. It all depends on what kind of people they are; drug dealing does not encompass everything that they do. Some of my friends deal weed and clearly I think they're good people.
But like I said, I do get it and I wish I could change things too. I've been thinking about speaking to them about it but the fact of the matter is I don't know the entire story and I don't know what it's like to be a single parent. Same as you.
I don't know why you're assuming that the guy she was hanging out with is a DATE. She has two kids, yeah one of them is sick, so she should take care her kid, but if you're a single mother at a young age; for whatever the reason for being one in the first place is not the point, and your kid is sick but you took one night out and just have fun, ease the mind from worry with a buddy of hers and it went longer than intended, does that make her an AUTOMATIC bad example case?
True, she shouldn't have socialized with a drug dealer, but how do you know he IS? Who is your fiance really; does he have the inside scoop?
And unless she made a point of telling Nathan NOT to date other girls, maybe you shouldn't jump to the guns of saying she's a cheat and an irresponsible mother. Do you have 2 kids? I don't think so, right? Was this a frequent occurence? And if so, what is your friend doing with a woman who doesn't care for her child, on more than 1 occasion? Instead of lumping her as a bad, lying, single mother, you should just say your good friend broke up with a girl who lied and failed to take care of her family. Why does Nathan having MS suddenly pop up in the story to why she hung out with the "drug dealer"? Is that your way of making him sound like a "nice guy with MS" that she "used" until the single "bad example" mother went out to party with a sick child at home?
If she has a lifestory that you are not clear on the facts of... but rather, you're siding with your friend because HE IS YOUR FRIEND, maybe you should try to see it from a single mother's perspective in reflection to the problems their relationship had....hmm?
So it took me three or four times to read this to make sure I understood what you were saying.
I think, potentially, you're the one who needs to get a grip. Childhood colds are not the end of the world. So the kid was at Grammas with a runny nose. Mothers are not slaves to their children, nor do they cease to be human once they give birth, and while the kid should come first, it is not the ONLY thing in this woman's life. Nor should it be.
Moving on. So you're listening to gossip and then spreading that gossip, about this "drug dealer" and "bad mother" couple? Well thank God we have you as a shining example of maturity in this situation. You may have grown up in a well-rounded family but something your parents forgot to teach you is that hearsay and gossip ALWAYS do more harm than good.
So what have we learned here? Stop being a judgmental gossipy harpy, and focus on your own life first. That way, you won't have time to judge people you don't truly know, or make blanket parenting statements that are insulting and rude to every person who's ever considered having children.
Wow, judgement from nonparents is always fun!
1) The kid had a cold, not even the flu. So, the kid probably didn't have a fever.
2) Who was watching the kids?? What if the father was watching the kids because it was his turn?
3) Moms can have fun too.
The only point you have here is if she was hanging out with a drug dealer. Certainly, not a smart move whether she was a mother or not.
Pop out a few kids and then see how you feel about what it is a mother should do.