Thursday, 04 November 2010
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Ladies, Girls and Guys CAN Be Friends!
I'm a guy so I guess I can give you some insight regarding the do's and dont's about finding and keeping guy friends.
Here are some tips...
1. Draw the line.
Always know your boundaries and keep your guy friend informed. I mean if a guy (like me) became your friend and we aren't clear about what our friendship consists of AND I really like you, then that little loophole can spark a lot of hope in a guy.
2. Do NOT flirt.
Honestly, a guy can only hold back so much. So even if it's a friendly flirt, resist the urge, especially if the guy is in a vulnerable emotional state. Sometimes a pat on the back or a quick hug is all good, but always keep it short
3. Always remember a guy is a guy.
If you're asking for a guy friend, that's what you'll get. So sometimes just remember that you're talking to a guy, and we ain't so touchy feely (depends cause sometimes I am) about certain things (body weight, etc). I mean, yeah, we can give a comforting hug or a shoulder to lean on but don't get used to it like you would do to most of your girlfriends.
4. Mean what you say, and be clear.
Plain and simple, if you say something like, "I LOVE YOU" always make sure to add "as a friend/brother/cousin etc," because if not... well you're going to get your guy friend confused. Also, don't use those 3 words too much to your guy friend, because sometimes it kinda makes us thinkyou really mean it.
5. Treat your guy friend as a friend.
Some girls are somewhat affectionate to their guy friends, and others are too affectionate. A guy friend appreciate a girl's sweetness at times, but if your consistently sweet then thats a red flag that might mean something else (like, is she hitting on me?).
There's probably more but I hope that's a start to keep you going.
Guys, more insight on this matter please! Any tips for helping a guy and a girl to just be friends?
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I'm very affectionate with my guy friends, hugs, playing around etc., and we're still friends. A few of them even have girlfriends who don't mind it when we sneak off to talk. I think it all depends on the guy.
I have had trouble with other guy friends but i've maintained many of my guy relationships (I mainly have male friends).
LOLWHUT. Friends, okay. But BEST friends. Hmmm. Questionable.
I pick on my guy friends. But then I hug 'em, laugh with them, laugh at them, offer to kill girls for them, and if they need an ear or a shoulder, they know I've got two of both. I've never said "I love you" to any of them. Probably never will. But I think they know that I do, just like I know that they love me, too.
We get along. And we'll never be anything but friends. Unless one of them marries my sister...
Lol most of my friends are guys (I don't often get along with girls). Just treat them like you would treat anybody??? The gender doesn't matter.
It only works if I'm not attracted to them. What draws me in to having guy friends is their sense of humor- not their looks.
friends maybe, best friends - no.
I had a best guy friend for years... now we date, hahaha. i guess i didn't play by the rules.
I have one best friend who I like and five other chick friends who threw me into the friend zone.
I consider that a blessing. Because friends get to learn things lovers don't (and vice versa is true). After simply witnessing the shit they pull and the problems they tend to have, I'm grateful that I'm only just friends with them, rather than be a boyfriend and have to put up with that shit.
I am now also a solid believer in two hot chick corollaries, both of which I will not allow myself to be persuaded otherwise: No matter how sexy or hot she is, somebody's tired of her shit. And also that hot chicks tend to be psychos. I am the new-age Quasimodo on intent, so I know that if a really hot chick wants to be more than "just friends" with me, I know something's up.
I'm just gonna post here and explain things before I get negative feedbacks :D (copy pasted from a comment given to me from another site)
"this should be titled "5 ways of finding and keeping a guy friend assuming every guy is socially retarded and in love with you." you could try not to imply that the relationship dynamics of girls and boys are this weird and uncomfortable and difficult to navigate. really the way to find and keep a guy friend is to be a good friend back to him. be nice and respectful and have fun together and support each other. none of this condescending cosmo-style bullshit."
Let's try it this way. One sentence at a time.
"you could try not to imply that the relationship dynamics of girls and boys are this weird and uncomfortable and difficult to navigate."
-I never said nor implied that the relationship dynamics of girls and boys are this weird and uncomfortable and difficult to navigate cause its actually fun and interesting. Sometimes (well based on my experience) things just get out of hand (again my own experience). I wrote this down when someone keep on ranting about getting hit by his guy friends when she was single.
"really the way to find and keep a guy friend is to be a good friend back to him. be nice and respectful and have fun together and support each other."
-Like I said on my post "Guys, do you have anything to add to this list?" and so I would thank you for adding another one on the list of help
"none of this condescending cosmo-style bullshit."
-Like I said on my post "There's probably more but I hope that's a start to keep you going." I'm still learning as things goes with friendship so I'm not condescending on the contrary I am asking for more advise. Also cosmo-style bullshit? gotta give a LOL cause that never occurred to me. I just wrote this down, check if it was readable, based it on what I know, make sure I didn't hurt anyone, and give credit where it is due.
Lastly.
There's no bullshit on what I said, I tell it as I experience it, but also humbled myself that there is still much to learn. I mean if you know more and write better, then be my guest to write them all down and I'll just take notes and move on to the next day
i love you AS A BROTHER. just so you don't think i'm hitting on you. and you over there, i love you AS A COUSIN. i'm more concerned about losing a guy friend than i am about incest!
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@Eternal_Nocturne@xanga - Do you think many other people also feel that way about "hot chicks"? Is that why nobody ever approaches me because they think I'm crazy or just hard to deal with? I'm trying to finally figure out what my problem is because I've yet to figure it out and I probably should or I'll be single forever (and I don't want to be).
I sort of agree with the not being able to be best friends thing. There are moments that my two best guy friends and I have that are a little awkward. But it doesn't amount to anything because there's three of us. I feel like if the two of them continue fighting like they are right now and I spend more time with each of them individually I might have a problem on my hands...
I guess guys and girls can be just friends. However, sometimes the girl or the guy can be attracted to each other. They date, they break up, their friendship can be in trouble (or not). Communication is definitely an enormous factor in this kind of relationship. I say tread carefully and always carry your brain with you. Just like salt and pepper, your heart needs your brain.
I'm dating my best friend lol
@millionofstars@xanga - Agreed
I find it difficult, but depends on the guy. it can work.
mostly if you are not at all attracted to them.
@vicdaily@xanga - No-no-no-no-no-no-no-no, that's MY theorem on "hot chicks" and it's the reason why I will never date them, but I have no problems with them as just friends. Besides, as I said, I'm really ugly inside and out, so it's not really such a bad tradeoff. My theorem is not true for all "hot chicks" either, but after 5 swings and misses at the ol' ballpark, I'm not willing to chance fate again!
With regards to you, however, there may a bit of a pedestal theory I do think some men have upon which a really pretty woman either does have a boyfriend already or that she's not going to talk to me. How do I put this...the problem is that you may be really awesome and good natured now from your physique to your soul, but men may feel awkward approaching you because it's like saying "Damn...how can I talk to her when I'm pretty much an asshole!" If this is not the case, then I'm not sure.
The problem with you in your second paragraph I'm guessing is that you're probably sending out mixed messages. Let me put it in a guy's perspective: if we're just friends, we're just friends, fine. But, you can't start doing anything in terms of voice or body language that is going to give us wrong ideas, only for you to be pissed at us for misreading the message. Most women don't realize they do this either, for I've had to correct my friends a few times at that. Don't make it seem so...well...optimistic in that there can be something further between her and me, so to speak. Spending time with them individually is going to cause problems too.
Another alternative problem is that your guys are not willing to stay in just friends territory. Trust me on this one, if a guy who REALLY likes you will commit to the friend zone, do you REALLY think that he's not going to wait until you and him can grow in intimacy? Either of them sound like they want to be more and they don't quite get the friend zone thing.
It's very possible to be "just friends", but I don't quite see how it's being done right here.
doing all these things doesn't mean the guy won't develop feelings for you.
My closest friends have always been guys. Of course, I never considered myself any different from them.
Admittedly, the boobs do get in the way. Eventually they notice.
I'll take my chances though. Most girls drive me up a freaking wall.
lol but the only problem is.....
i flirt with my guy friends O.O
HAHAHAHAHA
now listen here, im not gay or anything, because flirting is only playing, unless your doing weird lovey dovey, mushy nasty crap like that lol
but i treat all my friends the exact same, regardless of gender =]
the one thing i always make sure is this: I DO NOT DATE ANYONE
after i make that very clear to the girl, lets be friends<3
Even friends that get too affectionate. I had friend at work who always told me he loves me and would get too close for comfort sometimes. I immediately distanced myself once I found myself wanting more attention from him... Line almost crossed...
if I'm not attracted to them, then it could work. I haven't had close guy friends, only social that I hang out with once in a while as a group. if I even have the slightest attraction to him, close proximity syndrome, usually gets me, and I start to gradually develop feelings.
I have a best guy friend...we liked each other at the beginning, but I never knew that he liked me, and then he started liking someone else so now we're friends haha. Honestly, I can't ever see us dating >< he bitches all the time, he's really insecure, and he has a really big ego. He basically treats me like "one of the guys", so I could never see it happening. We fight like an old married couple though haha. Either way, I do believe that guys and girls can be friends by, as you suggested, setting boundaries and being clear about where your friendship stands.
I have three best friends. Two are guys. One of those, I have developed feelings for. The other, however, we just never had the problem with giving each other the wrong idea. We were always just platonic. Neither of us is the other's type anyway lol.
Problem is that guys always seem to think that just because you're friends, or good friends, that they're in some kind of special position, you know what I mean? It doesn't matter that they know where I am in life, what I think about relationships, and how I am really against getting into one at this point right now. It doesn't matter that I've told them about what happened to previous guy friends who thought they had a chance. It doesn't matter that I remind them that I don't want a boyfriend or any kind of relationship. It doesn't help. They don't get the point. They like me anyway, act stupid about it, then mess things up. Even if they know they have no right to, they start acting like they ARE my boyfriend and I just have no patience for that kind of stupidity. It's like: "I warned you."
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