I know different people have different preferences but isn't it just wrong for a 27-year-old guy to be trolling High School girls?
The other night at happy hour, my friend's cousin came out with us. Of course since he's been single for a while so the news of him having a girlfriend quickly circulates the table. We've teased him before about him not bringing her out and we promise we won't bite or bitch or scare her away. He insisted that the bar is not her scene. Now, this is not the first time we're asked him to bring her out and it's not always to a bar either. He's came out with us to dinners, movies sans girlfriend. At first we thought, is she hideous? My friend assures us no, he's met her and she's cute.
My other girlfriend, who is the naggy mother of the group finally found out that the reason why she never comes out to happy hour or to late night events is because she's only 17 and has a curfew.
WTF?!?!?!?!?!
I was shocked to find out my friend's cousin is dating a 17 yr old. I don't blame the 17 yr old because she doesn't know any better. To her, it's probably cool to date an older guy. But my friend's cousin SHOULD know better. First off, do you want to land in jail? I'm pretty sure 17 is still considered under age. If you can't vote, you're not an adult yet. I don't care how desperate you are or how long you haven't gotten laid...underage girls/boys are A BIG NO-NO!!!
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Perhaps he's banking on not getting any until she's of legal age.
I doubt I could date a 17 year old though. Totally different levels of life experience would be a problem.
It's funny mindlessly people will follow what they've known their whole lives. Consistently, I've seen married couples with a 10 year difference in age, yet no one so much as thinks of what that meant earlier in life. Yet, the minute an older teen or young 'tween (is that even the correct term for 20s?) dates someone in their mid-teens, they are branded as a social outcast. It's even funnier because in many places in Europe, it is very common to see these kinds of relationships, being that the age of consent is as low at 14 in some countries.
In no way do I condone child molestation or any of the sort, but once someone's gone through puberty, isn't that natures way of saying "you're all prepped and ready to go biologically."
Yeah, I think a guy I know is waiting on my 21st birthday before he tries anything. It's less than five months away, but he's talked about it off and on (not in my presence) since I turned 18. He's got patience, for sure. He's quite a bit older, though.
@ChaoyD@xanga - Pretty sure the correct term is "Young 20-something". Tweens are kids about 9-12.
You've touched on one of my pet peeves here.
First of all, no, 17-year-olds are not necessarily off-limits -- in fact, in most jurisdictions, they're "in bounds". See http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm for further information. And even in areas where 18 is the age of consent... come on, now. Are you really going to begrudge someone for being six or eight months shy of "the magic line"?
I'll give you a perfect example from my own past. When I was 18, I was living in a jurisdiction where 16 was the age of consent. Let's suppose for the sake of argument that it wasn't, though, that it was 18. As it happens, about one month after I turned 18, I had sex with a girl who was about eight months shy of her own 18th birthday. Under the strict interpretation of the law in some jurisdictions, that would be considered statutory rape, but that's pretty ridiculous, considering that I was only nine months older than she was. I mean, sheesh, I had just finished my senior year in high school, and she was just about to start hers. Where's the exploitation in that?
More aggravating than that, though: there seems to be some kind of a weird presupposition in American culture (though not, as ChaoyD points out, in other countries) that it is somehow perverted for a grown man to be sexually attracted to a 17-year-old girl. Sorry, but no, it's not... a seventeen-year-old may still be psychologically very young, but physically, she's a fully grown woman whether you like it or not, and sex is first and foremost (though not, admittedly, entirely) about bodies.
And by the way... even here in the good ol' U S of A, about a hundred years or so ago, the age of consent was ten. Granted, life spans were shorter back then, and people married younger and died younger. Even so, though.
i don't personally agree with the relationship, but i think the consent age is 17 here in california. so doesn't that make it legal (depending on the state)?
i'm 18 and the youngest girl i've dated was 14 months younger than me, generally i prefer to date slightly older women.
Ew, of course guys on here are going to be defending being creepy underage chasers.
I think it's extremely inappropriate for a 27 year old to be dating a 17 year old girl, she can't even buy cigarettes yet and has hardly experienced being an adult AT ALL. If I dated a 27 year old when I was 17, my parents would of had a heart-attack not only because he's 27 but what does that say about him? He's too immature to find a woman to put up with him? He's praying on a naive little girl and that's sickening.
@Lorelei - LOL thanks for that correction. I really mugged that one up...
I don't think age matters.
I'm 17 and I'm dating someone that's 27.
To other people, it's like wtf?
But really, I don't care cause if you found someone based on their age, then how can you ever be happy with them? Don't you base your feelings on personality? Looks? Manners? Interests?
I get it though, if it was anyone else, I would probably think wtf as well but as long as they're happy and the guy's not using my friend/leeching off her. I'm fine with it.
Most parents are around 10 years difference.
When they're 40 or 50, no one cares.
But when they're like 14 and 24, it's such a big deal?
One of my friends 18 year old is dating a 25 year old. 7 years difference but it doesn't matter at all to them. They're living together now and are extremely happy but relationships do have their arguments but what relationship doesn't?
So how can you judge your friend's cousin if he's fallen for a 17 year old?
But I am curious, as to how they met?
Sorry for rambling =/
YanDot =]
sigh.. let people make their own mistakes. who are we to say what should be and what shouldn't be? we live our lives and they live their's.
that's pretty sketchy. not illegal unless they start doing stuff, but age difference = interesting power dynamics. i always feel like the older person is taking advantage of the younger one (and is too much of a loser to date someone more age-appropriate). once you get past a certain age and have acquired some sense of maturity, age becomes less of a big deal. i think that's why a 40-year-old dating a 30-year-old isn't weird, but 27 and 17 are so far apart in terms of life experience, maturity, and mutual goals.
@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - that's what i was thinking. Life after high school is different. and life after turning 21 is different.
Utoppia - have you met her? maybe she's more mature than he is?! (it happens.)
Seventeen IS the age of consent in many states...
But, personally, the age difference is just too much. She's still in high school, isn't she? What could they possibly have in common? There are exceptions to every rule, but it's likely this case isn't the exception.
Considering the age of consent frees him legally, I don't see an issue with it. Is it weird? Hell yeah.
You tell 'em!
17 isn't underage to date (weird perhaps, but not jail worth). it's already the age of consent...at least in New York
well, actually legal age of consent is 16. But it is sorta weird. At the same time, though, you gotta think that not only do older/married couples often have more than 10 years between them but but this is the norm in a lot of other countries. Which doesn't really make it right.. but the way i see it, h should probably wait until she doesn't have a curfew to date her.. or maybe till she's graduated.
"If you can't vote, you're not an adult yet."I totally disagree with you. From my point of view, a young girl (18 and younger) who is more mature than other girls (& boys) in her grade/age, seeks older guys more around her maturity level, rather than the dumb, immature, boys she goes to school with. Nothing rebellious about it, just an alternative. And I know girls who don't sleep with them, but date them, because DUH! it's illegal to have sex with minor, but not illegal to have a relationship with one. The end.
@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - that's exactly my point. I didn't think 10 years was that big of a deal because you're right. If he was 40 and she was 30, I would pat him on his back and say good for him. But because he's dating a teenager, it's a little sketchy as to why on earth he's dating someone that young? But of course, there are people jumping down my throat already and defending the underage dating.
@MzBrownEyez - nope, never met her because he refuses to bring her out. Plus, she can't get into bars yet because they card you at the bar doors here in NYC.
Guys like this are sick, I'll probably write a post about this too!
@TheSchizoidMan@xanga - I know your intentions but just the fact that you looked up and validated the "in bounds" age limit kind of freaks me out - but I do understand the devils advocate idea here...
I find it fine. Age is but a number- it's maturity that matters.
Love also has no age, but it does have needs.The oldest guy I've been romantically involved with turned 21 this past May. I've always liked older guys. I feel like being with an older guy helps me mature quicker, or like, healthier or something.
I'm 17 and my SO is turning 20. (Oh god. He's getting old. 20. It sounds so weird to say.)I met him when he was 16 and I was 14. We hit it off, and started dating. He graduated high-school and started college, and I was left in high-school. Our needs changed, and even though we loved each other to death, a break was required. We took the break, and are now back together for the summer. During the school year, we consider our relationship as open. It works, and we both understand.
Besides, it's not like we're having sex or anything. That'd be illegal. lol. I see why you say it's weird, but if he has good intentions, then there's nothing wrong with it.
Plus, why is it okay for someone who is say, 50 to see someone who is 40, but it's not okay for someone that's 27 to date someone 17? I've always wondered that.
As far as age goes, its an experience & maturity thing.
A 27 year old has probably graduated high school, probably bought a car, has hopefully moved out of their parents' house & has experienced independence! They can legally vote, join the military, buy cigarettes, alcohol, go to clubs and bars and stay out all night if they want to. They could even be established in a career, done with college or whatever.
A 17 year old probably hasn't graduated yet, or they've barely been out of high school. They have not had their license very long, if at all. They probably still live at home with their parents', under their parents' rules and a curfew. Even if they are not living at home, how long have they had independence? Not as long as a 27 year old! They are not 18- they cannot vote, buy cigarettes, or get into most clubs/bars... They need a chance to get out and experience life...
A 40 & a 50 year old? Both have experienced life's major moments!! At 40, what much else is there? You can both relate to each other on a mature/similar level...
That's just my thought on it...
17 and 27. ICK
I can't imagine them having that much in common.
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