Guys may get the "Shady" label for their techniques in getting girls but girls definitely get the Sneaky Trophy for getting guys.
I've known many girls who's plotted and schemed to get the man of their dreams. Hey, I get it, it's a rough world out there with a younger batch of girls coming out of the woods every year to poach on your territory. The same can't really be said for guys because face it, older more established guys can always get a younger girl. Older more established women can't always get a younger guy.
Anyway, this girl (let's call her Sara) has been trying to get this guy for the past few weeks. He's one of the few single, good looking guys left within her group of friends. Now she could come right out and pursue him but he doesn't like aggressive girls. He still feels like he should be the one chasing after a girl and not other way around. Sure, Sara could hint to him and wait around but whenever he goes out, there are never a shortage of girls coming up to him practically drawing their numbers on his face. So she took the sneaky approach and planned on getting drunk around him and basically use the old cardinal rule of seduction. As she played the "too drunk to go home alone" card, he let her crash at his place. Too bad she didn't keep her plan to herself or tell whoever she told to keep their mouth shut because her phone beeps as a text comes in and he goes to get her phone for her. Now if you have an iphone, you'll know that the text message is shown as soon as it comes in so you don't even need to put in your passcode. Anyway, one of her dumb friends decided to text her "Good luck tonight and get some pretty-boy ass, biatch! wink, wink."
He obviously saw it, but pretended that he didn't and ended up sleeping on the couch. Nothing happened and that was that. Now pretty boy is my friend and after he told me this story, he asked me "Why are girls so devious and sneaky?" I answered, "well because guys are dumb when it comes to the truth. Did you believe your mom when she told you this food or that food was good for you? Didn't she have to be sneaky to get you to eat something you didn't want to eat?"
So I'll re-ask his question to you readers, do you think girls are devious and sneaky? If so, why do you think that is?
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"Older more established women can't always get a younger guy."
I like older women, but I can't get them because they always want older men.
Sucks for me I guess.
Women simply take guys kindness for weakness, and that's how they prey on them.
"He still feels like he should be the one chasing after a girl and not other way around. "
Old fashioned, I don't care either way anymore.
Women are sneaky when they think guys won't be able to accept them. He didn't want to chase, so she had to do something different. Yeah, it was underhanded. And to go further, I probably wouldn't date a girl who did the same.
Break out the hot dog, show a "little" leg, an ankle, roll your eyes backwards in a picture but only so slightly, you are a good girl afterall, subtle.
For the love of above, in the twists that I must plot, this girl is me instead of her. Now I'm saying this because it's actually me, right? and I've learned a new trick and that's to look honest.
That's why I don't brush my hair and wear, um, interesting clothing, but it's me somehow. Okay, in my life position, I'm just going to get fucked and left and not be able to say much. It's not like anybody is defending me, I have a safety net or anyone would believe me because there isn't any value in it for them. No, this happens to me because of her. It makes her look okay and me look desperate, trashy and bad. I'm not sleeping at his place. I'll be on the lawn where you left me with four or five guys. Baby you know I'm worth it. In the twist of fate, she's driving my car because I'm a good friend, the car that's in his driveway that everyone sees and knows is mine.
people like that don't deserve to be with anyone but an equally dick person..
First, I'd like to say that "shady" and "sneaky" are practically synonymous, yet somehow when a guy does it, there's a negative connotation to it. She used the "too drunk to get home alone" while I've used the "You came here by yourself? Let me walk you home". Both are devious and (rather obvious) attempts to end up at your preferred destination for a chance to bone. Just thought I'd point out something I see as a double standard, unintentional probably, but there nonetheless.
To your actual question, yes, women can be devious in their hunt for a hot young buck. I know girls who have laid out all sorts of plans and ideas and what not to get with a guy. As in this story, most of them were angled to show the guy interest, but to ultimately have him be to one making the advances.
Why? It's human nature or at least human intelligence. Charging straight into a situation without a plan works out only in the rarest of occasions. I think girls get this image of being sneakier because they usually make a plan that is more passive aggressive and gets the guy to come to her. Guys make a plan usually to lessen the awkwardness and chance of denial when they make an advance. Since the guy is being more straightforward, it's not seen as sneaky.
Both genders are sneaky or shady and it's not at all outside the norm. We do what we can to get what we want and think we're freaking Sun Tzu on the battlefield of seduction.
"do you think girls are devious and sneaky? If so, why do you think that is?"
like the comment above me, I feel that both guys and chicks can be equally devious, you know?
as for women though, I feel like they're worse about it because we grow up being expected to find our "one and only" and especially as women get older, and feel their window of finding love/ marriage time is closing, they get more desperate and... blah. also, I notice that girls more often than guys (of any age here) have a greater want/ need to be in a relationship, so generally try harder to find relationships/ do anything to achieve them than guys.
I don't know though. I don't want to say these reasons are necessarily true, and I don't want to say girls are worse about it than guys... as a general rule, you can find these types of people in either gender and I'm really not sure which gender is more devious ;) but I feel like females are worse about it.
It's a fine balance. If a girl that I'm interested in makes herself available, I'm fine with that. But if get a girl tries to be sneaky and weasel herself into position, I'm a little wary. It's one thing to show willingness to hang out, it's different when it becomes a pursuit. Sure it's flattering, but not enticing.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that goes rarely respond to flirting because we - well I - don't know what flirting is but respond to "easy."
Its been well documented for me with my friends that I don't know when a girl is flirting with me and been told in apparently said tests that I didn't flirt - even though I thought I did. Idk, maybe all this is a different subject for a different day.
hahaha funny. i don't like sneaky girls or guys. either way. they can both be pretty manipulative. just be straight forward with people. if someone lies or tricks me, even if i do actually like them, it would put me off.
My boyfriend's ex tricked him into a relationship. They had been friends for a bit and she'd been having a hard time and used pity to wheedle her way into his trust, then out of the blue one day kissed him and started calling him her "boyfriend". He wanted no such thing (apparently she was gross), and finally got her to shut the hell up and stop her shenanigans 2 weeks later.
I really dislike girls like that...I go right in for the kill and if they're not interested, that's it. I stay friends with them anyway. It's better that they know and reject rather than get tricked into trying to feel something, or, like your friend, find out in an unpleasant manner.
I certainly think that this applies to *some* girls. Given the premise that men can pick from a wealth of age groups, while women cannot, it's a fair tactic.
As you pointed out, some guys are just too stupid and proud to be told what's good for them. Being sneaky opens opportunities for both parties to explore their chemistry, as in your friend's case. (I doubt her ploy was sound: does she really want a knight in shining armor who always sleeps with the girl he saves?)
Personally, I wouldn't mind it. If successful, it demonstrates an ability to understand and manipulate a person's psychology, and I rather enjoy mind games.
It doesn't have to do with gender. Guys and girls can be equally sneaky. =\
Yeah,especially now,more than ever. Girls are WAY sneakier cause we can get away with doing more stuff.
This is why I can't stand girls, they will go out of their way to go for someone else's man and assume all this stuff, when in reality there isn't shit going on.
If you're not getting a man, MOVE ON, there are hotter guys out there.
Or maybe you just need more makeup. And get your hair done too,damn.
Um. This sneaky shit doesn't look bad to me at all. Whether a guy or girl did it doesn't matter -- it's all just means to an end. You choose whatever approach you want, because there's always someone who'll like what you're doing.
*shrugs*
He's either gay, or she's really ugly.
I'd be flattered if a girl went through all that for me. And, like you said, guys are dumb. We kind of need to be discreetly led in the right direction.
Well, I led my current boyfriend right to me. If my sneaky plan wouldn't have worked, I would have been cool still being just good friends, but the thing is...IT DID WORK & we are amazingly in love. So here is my little story.
Last, year I was dating someone else and while I was dating my ex(we can call him, Bob.) my current bf(we can call him Jim) and I became the best of friends. While I was on vacation in Florida for 2 months last summer Jim and I spent countless hours on the phone all night or chatting online.Whenever,I go to Florida I just stay with my grandparents, so it's not much of an exciting vacation...it's more like being at home but in another state for 2 months. Bob at the time was not paying so much attention to me. He was being pretty shady, like he bailed on visiting me in Florida, when I had payed for his trip...so I broke if off with him.Jim and I were still just friends.We told each other all our dirty little secrets.When I came home from Florida we hungout a lot and he took me around all his friends I didn't know yet.He was always excited to introduce me and everyone always said", Oh you are Roxy, Jim never shuts up about you." So at the time Jim was dating a few different girls and there was one in particular he was becoming more serious with(or at least she was more serious about him.) Jim and I would constantly comment each other's statuses on myspace & comment each other's page. This girl Jim was seeing wrote to me one day and asked me to stop leaving Jim myspace comments because she was his girlfriend too and he was playing us.I never replied to her,but told him to let her know I was only his friend and she shouldn't get so worked up over nothing. So I played the "cool chick" card.No drama, nothing. Eventually she was so worked up over my comments to him, that he was tired of her....and one night after he dumped her....he kissed me and he has been mine ever since. haha.
I told Jim about my plan later on and he just laughed. He had liked me all along, but didn't think I had any interest in him.