Friday, 12 March 2010
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Is Three Month's Salary is the Standard?
Did you know that "market rates" exist for engagement rings? I just learned from a recently engaged Japanese friend that in Japan, guys are expected to fork out three months' worth of salary for this piece of rock. Is it me or is it normal to be startled by this "market practice"?
**apparently when De Beers campaign(promoting that men should spend at least two months of their salaries on engagement rings) first started in 1968, less than 5% of Japanese women received a diamond engagement ring. Today, diamond engagement rings have become such an integral part of the Japanese marriage process that Japan is second only to the United States in the market of diamond engagement rings.
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Yeah, that's a pretty common guideline.
@SeeBeeWrite@xanga - haha. so, will you say "no" if you get anything less? ;)
Stupid to spend so much money. In my opinion.
@morningmoka@xanga - I think it'd be rude to ask how much the guy spent on it.
Yet another perk of being a homo. We both have black tungsten rings, which weren't necessarily cheap, but certainly didn't cost two or three months of either of our salaries.
My ring definitely didn't cost that much. I think people place too much emphasis on the price. Price doesn't matter. The symbolism does.
You know, I like the idea of expensive rings and whatever, and I really hope I can get to this point one day. But I think when/if I spring the question on a girl, I'm going to use a ring pop initially. I hope they'd appreciate it... and then I give them a real ring.
I just like ring pops.
Christ, makes me glad I'm single.
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I'd buy a way cheaper ring and use the rest of the money for a sweet honeymoon.
Um, I'm going to be the odd girl and say, "That's fucking stupid." A quarter of your salary on a ring?! No. Just no. I mean, if you're loaded, go ahead, but I can think of three million better things to spend money on. I have a simple wedding band, and so does my husband. No engagement ring. I don't need fancy expensive jewelry to know my husband loves me.
Hmm.. I'd say I'm a pretty odd girl too. We've spoken about rings, I asked for CZ. I don't care about my ring so long as it's pretty and shiny. The money attached to it doesn't matter.. I would HATE to wear thousands of dollars on my hand, and then one day lose it. "oops?" -.- ... I'd rather spend that money on a house, or something much more important to my future than a silly ring.
It could be a zirconia ring or a simple band engraved with the date the question was popped...
I'd be too happy to even give a damn how much it costs, so forking out three month's worth of salary is just plain silly.
Oh I thought it was 2 months salary?
I think it's idiotic to put an amount on how much someone should spend on an engagement ring.
@SeeBeeWrite@xanga -
@morningmoka@xanga - By saying "no" you'd be doing HIM a favour. You should be happy to marry the person you love instead of worrying about a frickin... token of ownership.
Why don't we switch around this stupid tradition for once and see how women like having the burden of purchasing an expensive yet simultaneously worthless ring as an investment for the relationship?
The divorce rate in America is 53%. The ring does NOT mean jack.
I can't believe women even consider setting guidelines to something like this. If you're going to be materialistic, use your own damn money. Damn selfish women.
@xXDC_luyouXx - my, arent you a burst of sunshine in the morning.
If you have a problem with it, just dont date a girl who'll want that. Not everyone follows this "guideline" anyways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY2aDNhtX0I This is stupid, but it's what I'm supposed to want according to the Christians and others...
No.
He can bring me corn for three days.
I will reject him until the third day when he proves his love.
No, that's right, I'm just a brave.
Nothing means anything here. He'll ditch me the second something better comes along and I'll have stretch marks and worthless offspring while our system uses everything against me to motivate me to further stupidity.
wow. so much animosity for spending money on a ring.
i on the other hand have my eyes set on a 300K diamond ring at tiffanys for my engagement. hopefully, my future fiance will be making over 6 figures.
That's a hell of a lot of money even for someone on a low wage. Yikes. :/
I think half that or less is more realistic :')
It's crazy because it used to be two months salary, and suddenly it's three.
The guy is going to spend what he can afford. We all want to marry rich and have dreams of large rings with shiny adornments, but reality is a very small subset of people will ever get this.
@XoAsianBabioX@xanga - 300k? On a ring? I defend the people who have 2-3 months salary on their finger, but 300k is obscene. For a guy to afford that ring, he has to make 7-8 digits. 6 won't cut it.
well for one I think a ring is a symbol of a commitment and yes I do care about money unlike anyone here. I will admit that money is important. No matter how much I love someone I do not want to end up in a marriage where we cant support ourselves. So I want to marry when both parties are financially stable and at that point I think he should realize that I would like a nicer ring. But no I dont want a huge diamond. I would like a pearl, maybe with some diamonds on the rest of the ring and if it takes 3 month salary than okay thats fine. I think it shows that he really is willing to be committed to me considering people in this world are so cheap now and that is a large investment.
@xXDC_luyouXx - Women weren't the ones who set that guideline in the first place, so don't talk to us personally like I'M the one responsible for ring prices. I have turned down two proposals, so shut the fuck up about how selfish I am.
@radicalsounds@xanga - Oh, I agree. I'd be too scared to wear a crazy-expensive ring, too. I'd probably lose it. =P
@SeeBeeWrite@xanga - "I'M the one responsible for ring prices". Nice strawman argument and putting words in my mouth. The point remains:
If you base your marriage decision on the amount spent on the ring, you're a selfish bitch. Go buy him an engagement ring and then let him criticise you and reject you in the same selfish manner. Quid pro quo.
@abeautifulknight@xanga - "I think a ring is a symbol of a commitment" Commitment goes both ways, honey. A guy buys you a ring, you buy him a watch of equal value. I mean -- if he buys you a cheap ring and then you buy him nothing... and you'd have the galls to say that he isn't committed?
ROFL again... Don't set guidelines on rings. Damn this world is so selfish. It's like people don't understand that the person you're marrying -- is the person you love. Love is selfless.