Thursday, 21 January 2010
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Stuff My White Boyfriend Says: On Rice
I'm sure every relationship has it's own trials, but coming to a compromise in an interracial relationship is no easy task. My parents are from Hong Kong but having lived in rain-city Vancouver all my life, I often feel like the way I live, talk, and act is neither here nor there. I don't belong in the group labeled culturally "Chinese" nor do I associate solely with "Canadians". I am a hybrid of two beautiful cultures.
With that being said, my boyfriend is Caucasian (because the term "white" is politically incorrect, whatever)
The other night I was making a dinner of curry and rice for a small-get together. I sent the boyfriend out to buy rice and he comes back with "Western Family Rice". I then told him that the rice he bought has no flavour, but since we're having curry with rice, it doesn't matter. He then said, "all rice tastes the same anyways" To which I replied, "actually no, jasmine rice has a different fragrance than let's say basmati rice. Besides, some types of rice have more starch than others"His rebuttal? "well all the ones I've had tasted the same, so all rice tastes"
We then proceeded to bicker for 15 minutes about rice.
The boyfriend then asked me why I bother washing the rice before cooking them because he doesn't (direct quote: "I do it the white way"), stating that rinsing rice is a waste of time and water. To be honest, I have no idea why - I was just raised that way. My grandmother and my mother both rinse the rice before cooking it, so I was taught to do the same. I thought it was a cultural difference until I asked my best friend (who happens to be Ukranian) on how she prepares rice and she informs me that she also rinses them before cooking.
It blows my mind that he can base his assumptions on a generalization of only his own experiences. At times I feel like he doesn't bother to understand my culture because he listens with preconceived opinions about what is "right/normal" and what is "wrong/weird". I don't think it's "weird" to consciously not place chopsticks in vertical position in a bowl of rice and call all my parents' friends "auntie" and "uncle".
...and to think, all this started off with rice
Do you notice cultural differences in your relationship?
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Two points- the "long grain" rice that he probably bought is usually prewashed in processing and "enriched" with a few vitamins. When you wash it, you wash them off, making an "empty carb" dish even more so.. The "asian" rice that you are used to (probably from Thailand or Vietnam) isn't so treated and "God knows" what that white powder all over it is (probably just plain rice starch, but maybe not. . .) So keep on washing it. . .
Of course, you're right about the whole flavor thing. Keep on buying it. . .
My boyfriend & I are both white & Jewish, so we're not all that culturally different, but we've still had little (playful) arguments about how things are "supposed" to be.
First, you should have specified what rice you wanted him to buy. There are so many different types that it's kind of natural that he'd go for the generic, flavorless stuff.
Second, your boyfriend does seem somewhat narrow-minded and culturally ignorant. Or maybe he just has strong cooking preferences.
My boyfriend is hispanic and I'm white...and really, we might as well be dating the same race as ourselves, nothing ever comes up. Except when his mom cooked guinea pig for dinner when I was over. That was awkward.
Your boyfriend clearly has no sense of taste, I'm sorry. The differences are generally pretty subtle but anyone with a functioning nose and tongue should be able to spot the difference.
As to the rinsing, it's generally a holdover from growing up someplace where rice is often coated in talc to make it seem whiter. Talc isn't safe to eat so people who live or used to live in those areas got in the habit of washing the rice. In the US (I'm not sure about Canada, but I expect this applies there too), it's illegal to use talc on rice, so there's generally no need to wash it (Although some rices are coated in starch for the same reason that can make them stickier than one might like. I find this is especially the case with short-grain Japonica rice.
@untainted_love_for_her@xanga - Couldn't have said it better. Agreed.
Wow thats exactly how I felt. I dont belong anywhere, Im an inbetween person. I do feel your pain though. In my case even though Im 22 yrs old and capable of taking care of myself I still asked my parents for permission to be out and I still have a curfew. My bf who was raised here doesnt really understand why. He asks me so when you have a job and still staying with ur parents for a year just to save up will they still be controlling you? Will you still have to babysit your sisters and act like a second mom when your mom is working? He says he dont see the difference. Evrytime we have talks about our differences it makes me kinda sad.
P.s: My bf actually points out some of the most ridiculous things asian parents do...and he has a point
uggh. i'm Italian and grew up pronouncing certain words (mostly food) the Italian way, well the Italian slang way, and my boyfriend gives me a hard time about it every time. he says"this is America, say it the American way"--he says that in a joking way but it still irritates me. it annoys the hell out of me. that's my culture, that's how i was raised, leave me the fuck alone. i told him the other day if he doesn't stop with it one day he's going to end up being stabbed in the head with a fork. it pisses me off that much.
This story reminds me of the movie, The Joy Luck Club.
In one scene wherein a Chinese girl is dating a white guy and the white guy is invited to dinner with the Chinese girl's family. When the food is passed around the white guy takes a big helping while everyone else took a small helping -- which inadvertently was taken to be rude to everyone.
Anyways, I'm the same as you. I use to think I was very American and not very Chinese but that proved to be false when I couldn't adjust to certain friends that were Black ("Yo yo yo what up dog?"..........."Why did you call me a 'dog'?").
@untainted_love_for_her@xanga - I rinse rice too since I hate stickiness (unless I am making sushi). One misconception about rinsing rice from Asia like Jasmine rice - is that they say nutrients are entirely lost. This is *completely false* as the nutrients lost are negligible.
However, "American rice" are often enriched (like brown rice). You *don't* want to rinse that kind of rice because those nutrients are added in intentionally.
I'm half Hungarian, so I completely identify with this post. I was raised in a multicultural household, I learned both my mother's language (hungarian) and my father's (american english). I can cook more Hungarian meals than American ones, and I tend to do things "wrong" in American company because of the European influence in my etiquette. Not HUGE stuff, but I feel it.
My husband is full-on American. He looks at me funny sometimes, but tries not to argue. :P
I think it's stupid that he called you out on the rice flavor. Most people would have realized that perhaps their taste buds aren't as discriminatory.
My boyfriend is Paraguayan, though he was adopted as a newborn and raised in America. He constantly talking about how he's Mexican, and tried to convince me that he falls into the same "stereotypes" that most Mexicans fit. I just laugh becuase first of all, he's not Mexican, Paraguay is in South America, not Mexico...and he was raised in central PA, he's probably like the 2nd whitest person I know.
The reason we rinse the rice is because rice transported from the farm to the factory and to us, there are dusts, dirt and lots of chemicals stick on it so when you rinse them, the top layer of the rice which is full of dirt would be rinsed away.
Unfortunity, some people are just closed minded and doesn't want to learn the differences in other's culture. I'm from HK too, and I dated a few of them are that way, its not a good idea in a long run. They changed me as a person and I wasn't happy during that time, I gave up eating at the restarurants I love.... But my husband now (white), he is very respectful to every culture and willing to try eveything. I'm a much happier person now, at least we don't have those useless argements anymore.
I think its very important to be with someone that are open mind when we come from different culture. If not, you life will be boring and unhappy.
Maybe you should get your boyfriend to try different rice with you? Just a thought.
Consider wild or brown rice, it was a more starchy flavour.
right on sister! I had the same situation happen with my boyfriend last night. Although he and I didn't argue, he actually just watched me cook and asked me why and what most of the time. There are times where he takes his knowledge of whats normal in his culture and pushes it in my face, but he doesnt go too far where it hurts my feelings or insults me. he kinda does it in a joking matter. Boys.. they're still learning. LOL Joke! :)
i think this is the reason why i prefer to date someone w/ a similar cultural background as me. i think i'd get so fed up with trying to explain myself all the time. lol..
I love how you managed to get an idea for a post from a argument about rice lol
But i'd say that it's the traditions, influances and personal tastes that make things interesting,
so i certainly don't thing generalizations should be made ever.
But nor should people be inflexable with their traditions because that just causes problems.
It interests me the idea of someone from quite a strong culture having grown up in an entirely different country, I myself am from the UK but having never mixed in with my local culture don't feel connected atall with it (and to be honest would rather not be)
lol its healthier if you keep the rice unwashed. You're washing away the nutrients! My parents do it too, because back in Vietnam, the rice is well... dirty since it came straight from the rice field
Ohh, Caucasian guys are beautiful. I'm visiting Vancouver on Saturday, from portland. (: It does rain a lot up there.
You should have asked him why he washes his fruits before he eats them. Unless he doesn't which is pretty gross!
Some of the things that I always say to my SO (in a teasing manner) is that his people stole pasta and fireworks from my peeps. His response is "yeah and now we're stealing the women!"
@xXDC_luyouXx - LOL...joy luck club! That's an ongoing joke for me and my SO. Whenever we head over to my parents house for dinner, I tell him not to ask for Soy Sauce and pour it all over my mothers food. FYI: he's never done it but we laugh about it.
my BF and i have cultural differences...and we're both white. LOL! i dislike it when someone thinks their way is the only way a white person is supposed to be...you know, there's church folk, southern, eastern, etc, etc ....
anyway.
whatever.
i like rice.
I'm Hungarian. My first boyfriend was Italian / Puerto Rican, and while I don't act like a Hungarian, I do enjoy the food. He did too, but still, if I wanted to tell him about a Hungarian thing, it took him a while to understand it. I'm dating a Ukrainian now, and while the food / customs are not the same for us, it is very similar. If I tell him about a place in Europe, he'll know about it. If I tell him about a custom, he'll try to understand it.
A good example, in Hungary, we eat french toast with salt and maybe even vegetables. He eats it with sugar - which I find weird and he finds it weird that I eat it with salt, but hey, we won't make a big deal out of it.
@Julianna - Szia! :D
If I might be so bold, if you have that big of arguments over small cultural things, you should really re-evaluate your relationship, because arguments could get bigger and worse. Just a thought.
you no longer need to wash rice as it is pre washed.