If someone loves materialistic things and their main goal is to get married and be a
Lady who lunches, does that make them a whore?
A group of my friends got together and there's this one girl who is currently in her mid-twenties who laments every time about being single and being sick of dating losers. She's very materialistic. She likes designer things (LV bags and Manolo Blahnik shoes). Her favorite song to sing at karaoke is "Material Girls" by Madonna. She wants at least a 3 carat engagement ring and she wants to quit working after she gets married.
Now, I don't know if it's because we, the girls, have heard it so often that we've learned to tune her out. But since there were some mutual guy friends at the table with us, one of them (with a few shots of Jameson in him) blurted out "well, maybe if you stop being such a whore, you wouldn't still be single...you ever think about that?!" Uproar ensued where she gets up screaming "I don't sleep around! I'm not a F-ing Whore, you F-ing asshole!" To which he waves her off saying "same difference... You just spewed out all the qualities a midlife crisis guy looks for when he wants to cheat on his wife. So that makes you a whore."
The rest of us just went into damage control duty to prevent us from being kicked out. I felt bad because he was my friend so I had to get his drunk ass into a cab and sent him home. After the buzz wore off, I couldn't help but think if my friend was on to something. If I didn't know that girl and I heard what she said, I probably would have labeled her as a gold-digger and not be friends with her at all. I wouldn't even bother to look for any redeeming qualities she may or may not have.
So my question to you is, if someone is that materialistic does that make her a whore? Is that why she's still single?
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Doesn't WHORE refer to a person in a SEXUAL manor? Same as slut?
That doesn't make her a whore, but not very datable either. Rather clingy and needy actually.
It's probably why she's still single, but I don't think it makes her a whore... IMO, a whore is a person who sleeps with lots of guys. If she doesn't do that, materialistic or not, she's not a whore.
don't think it makes her a whore. I like nice things and I would love to stop working after I get married, but I tihnk the marriage thing is why he said it. The whole "I want a big ring and to stop working and let him suppport me" sounds like a girl who is looking for a sugar daddy. But that's just my opinion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whore
It sounds like she's materialistic enough to engage in sexual relationships for personal gain. Has she done it before in the past? If so, then yes, she is one. Let's put it this way: All whores are materialistic. But not all materialistic people are whores.
This is so stupid. She's not a whore. She's just that - materialistic.
That doesn't make her a whore, but many guys are turned off by a girl who is materialistic. They feel she will just try to use him for her own personal gain instead of being him for who he is. He feels that she will leave if a richer guy came along.
I definitely see where the guy is coming from. Sometimes with materialistic girls, I'd honestly rather pay a whore. Like, at least they're being upfront about what it is they really want.
Materialistic girls who want to rely on men for their money are just so shallow it isn't worth a decent guy's time. It's fairly widely accepted that if a guy will show no interest in a girl unless she has a flawless body, he's a douche. Women who are that way with money are basically the same thing.
I want my partner to want me. Not my wallet, my body, etc, etc...
first: i have never ever heard the term "a lady who lunches" before. i read the wikipedia explanation and i find it great.
second: i don't think whore is the right word for what you are describing. parasite is probably the better word for it.
third: guys have very well functioning sensors for gold diggers like her. my pov is that guys like to treat their ladies well but if they keep reaching for the whole arm when only a finger is offered, it can be a turnoff for guys.
i would not want to be such a burden to my man's wallet. i want to work, get my career going and i certainly don't want to depend on someonelses finances. i am surprised that there are still some ladies out there who like to sit on their behinds whilst depending on their husbands
lol. gold digger... not whore.
Yes it does.
We are all materialistic to some degree just like if we are human we are also all whores. The question is are we honest about it or do we lie and attempt to justify our failure to get laid with "morality"???
Okay, let's look at this hypothetically. I'm going to call your friend, "Sally".
Sally, is looking for a male specimen to share a relationship with.
(relationship[rɪˈleɪʃənʃɪp]
n1.the state of being connected or related
2.
association by blood or marriage; kinship
3.the mutual dealings, connections, or feelings that exist between two parties, countries, people, etc. a business relationship
4.
an emotional or sexual affair or liaison)
An 'average' relationship requires mutual investing from both the female and male specimen; by default, what "Sally" desires would be an unbalanced equation. Where as they're both expected to provide emotional investing, physical and mental stimulation, the balance would typically be placed in a variable which is children. The female specimen would have the child, and the male specimen would provide for the child. If the female specimen cannot or chooses not to provide for herself, a male will provide for her, based on her level of submission of her free will.
Meaning, if she submits to the male specimen, he will attempt to gain complete control over her as long as he is providing for her, what she desires. If she chooses to submit, she will be relinquishing her investments and stimulation(s), for material possessions. The male will consciously associate her, and her qualities with a price tag and will no longer respect her as an equal. This, is what we in society, call a 'whore'.
whore
/hɔr, hoʊr or, often, hʊər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hawr, hohr or, often, hoor] Show IPA noun, verb, whored, whor⋅ing.
–noun
1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.
It is simply a woman who desires material possessions so much so, that she in turn becomes a material possession herself.
materialism is awesome if you can support it yourself. i find nothing wrong with it as long as it is within the individual's means.
looking to hook up with someone who will provide you material extravagance (as payment for your "company," perhaps)? yes, that does make you a whore.
@LovelyLadyLucyx3@xanga - Nice.
@ChevalierSeingal - ... And this is why women have entered the work field. So they can provide themselves with their own desires. Feminism was/is a movement for the equality of women; they should embrace it fully, and work towards full equality.
Ha.. That was pretty good; I almost got myself there for a second.
Just because she's a whore, it doesn't mean she doesn't have redeeming qualities. Just because she wants to marry a rich guy, it doesn't mean she won't be a good wife.
@Utoppia - YES. This is why the term, "Man-whore" or "Gigolo" was created. it is very possible, though not nearly as common to find... I personally believe it's because it's a bit challenging for men to be successful in such a position; seduction is a game women created, which is why they're the best at it. It is much easier for men to use what utilities they were given, such as physical labor, and problem-solving skills, to name a few.
@jzrocker@xanga - True... Question is, would it even matter if she was a good wife, if those qualities were purchased from her? Let's use friendship for example; If you could buy quality friends, would they even be valuable to you? Any human quality you add a price tag to, becomes associated with material value. It can even be compared to slavery; when buying slaves, it is ownership. If 'it' runs away or dies, you'll be sad, but you can just as easily replace it with money. Would you trust that a woman who's 'good' qualities you're purchasing, would stay if someone offered her a higher salary for her abilities?
I`m not sure if the term whore would be appropriate in this context. But I do agree she is quite materialist which is why she is single, I think she has higher expectations than she should have if she wants to become a `trophy wife` than I doubt it would happen with her type of personality unless she marries rich.
@Simply_Cynical@xanga -
lmao!
First off, I don't see anything wrong with someone being a "whore" because morality is subjective. One person's whore is another person's norm; however, I am skeptical of gold diggers, regardless of gender, because most of their relationships are based on procuring material gains first and developing a relationship second if at all. Whores, in contrast, are capable of developing meaningful relationships separate from the need or want of material gain. This is all a matter of personal opinion though. Woo.
Your friend sounds like a gold digger.
Gold diggers are typically seen as whores because they're portrayed as willing to use anything, even sex, as a means to an end to get the cash and materials they crave.
So really, it's an assumption that she's a whore because she's materialistic. But, it's probably not too far off the mark generally speaking. Don't know about your friend's case, though.
As a side note, I honestly hope your friend never finds the dream life she's looking for, at least not until she gets a grip on something called 'reality'.
I love how apparently being "materialistic" is far worse than having no problem calling someone a whore. I doubt I would be all that interested in knowing either one of you personally.
I don't think being materialistic makes you a whore. I think most women like nice pretty things. It's just a matter of how you present yourself and how you are perceived. I know a few girls who sound similar to your friend. They carry themselves wrong and turn guys off. At the same time, I have other gfs who like materialistic items equally or more but don't really show it and they have great bfs/husbands who are happy to buy them the finer things in life. They had more to offer than simply liking materialistic items.
I don't think she would be deemed a 'whore'... But she surely needed that slap in the face.
The person you described, your materialistic friend, is completely ridiculous.
I could never stand to be friends with someone that pathetic.
Hopefully his drunken outbursts with cause her to think past her materials and more towards reality.