Wednesday, 16 December 2009

  • I'm Not An Expert By Any Means

    I'm still trying to figure this whole thing out. But what does a relationship need in order to be successful?


    #1. Trust.
    Above all else, a relationship needs trust. Trust is the foundation for every other important piece of a relationship. You have to be able to trust someone with every bit of you. You should be able to trust them with your past, present, future, weaknesses, wants, needs, hopes, dreams, fantasies... (yes, all of them.)

    #2. Communication.
    You should be able to tell them anything. Absolutely anything. If you're uncomfortable talking to them about something, understandable. But regardless of how uncomfortable you feel; you should still be able to do it, and you should have enough trust (there goes that again) that they'll accept it, and listen to you, support you no matter what. You need to communicate in order for someone to know what you expect, what you need from them. Majority of fights occur because one party did not know or understand what the other party's expectations were. If you clearly spell it out to someone what you need from them, it's kind of hard for them to mess it up. It's VERY irritating for someone to be angry at the other, and they say "what did I do" and get the response, "you KNOW what you did!" it's like dude... if they're asking what they did, they clearly don't know, and can't make it better until you tell them. This is the most immature response possible... communication is key.

    #3. Time.
    I guess this actually should come first, because relationships do not begin unless you take the time to build trust and learn about one another. Taking the time to learn about one another and know about each other is really the only way a relationship is possible. As well, if when in a relationship you don't have/ take the time to talk/ be with one another, then what are you doing? What's the point... where's the dedication?

    #4. which brings me to- Commitment and Dedication.
    Relationships take time, commitment, and dedication. If you are not wholly dedicated to making something work, you will not commit to it, it will fail. Simple.

    #5. Appreciation, Understanding and Acceptance.
    I had separate categories for these but they all kind of blend together. Appreciation, I think, is how you come to be dedicated. You have to appreciate someone before you can be with them. Inside and out; appreciate, embrace and Accept everything that they are, good and bad. I've seen (and actually more or less participated in) many relationships where people like each other...  for the most part. This simply does not work

    When you like someone for the most part you tend to think, "well, maybe they'll change what I don't like, to be better for me." Which is selfish, first of all. You cannot expect someone to change because you want them to. I believe that as soon as people start trying to make others change, things go downhill... maybe they will change for you, but when they're around other people? They'll probably be the same as they ever were. This leads to dissatisfaction and trust issues. What happens when you truly embrace and accept someones qualities in the first place, is generally that you will help to bring out those good qualities, and help the person to see where they may fall short, and improve on the not-so-good. There are things about certain people that are just in their nature that they can't really change, you need to make an effort to understand why they are the way they are, and accept it. If this can't be understood and the person is expected to change their behavior, they won't feel like you wholly love them. Only the most understanding of people can have truly unconditional love.

    But what is unconditional love? I believe you are capable of loving someone unconditionally when you've gotten to the point where you understand them so well that you know for sure they could never do anything in their life that you would disapprove of, or wouldn't be capable of understanding. It's all about understanding the person, how they think, their personality, etc., and being able to understand why they are the way they are, why they do the things they do, and accept it. Long explanation.

    #7. Responsibility and initiative.
    Yeah. Responsibility. In what aspect of life doesn't that word come up? If you tell someone you love them, you have taken the responsibility upon yourself to take the initiative to make damn sure that they know you love them and why, always. Let it be clear that this responsibility can only be placed on you by yourself... no one can make you love them. You decide to love someone; you decide to make sure they know it; you assign yourself that responsibility.

    #8. A desire to care.
    This may be entirely wrong. I've come to think of love to exist when you get to the point with someone where you know them so well, and appreciate every bit of them so much, that you have a desire to care for them. You want to be their happiness, you want to help them in every aspect of life where they are faltering. You would do anything (within reason) to help them avoid pain, and you would most certainly never inflict it on them yourself. You have to find this person worthy of taking care of. It's hard enough to take care of yourself... you have to find them so beneficial to your life that you would do anything to care for them and keep them around.

    #9. Priorities
    This goes along with understanding and communication. For a relationship to be successful, priorities must be in order, especially at a young age. Both parties must understand and know the important things in each others lives, and that those things may sometimes have to come between them. Things like school, work, or family should always be more important than your significant other, and your significant other should understand that. Other way around, you need to know when to place your significant other as a priority (play video games for half an hour starting at 9 or call your girlfriend at 9 like she asked you to? Priorities.) Though, I feel that this only generally applies to young relationships.

    #10. Selflessness.- "adj. Having, exhibiting, or motivated by no concern for oneself; unselfish"
    Sometimes you have to make sacrifices and put the other person's needs before your own, and not expect reparations or repayment. Though let us not forget that vice versa, sometimes you need to put your own needs first; it's a delicate balancing act.

    #11. Patience.
    Relationships require evolved patience. I have learned more patience than I thought I could ever have. You must be patient when things don't go the way you plan; you must be patient when things go wrong, and you must be willing to take the time to understand and fix problems. (Oh hey. Time and understanding again.)

    #12. Comfort.
    I guess this goes more with trust. You must be wholly and entirely comfortable with someone to enjoy their company. Both mentally and physically. if you are not physically comfortable around someone or vice versa then you do not each truly love every part of the other. As much as people say it's only personality that matters, if you don't love the way someone looks, you don't wholly love them. Even if looks aren't who you are, they are still a part of you.

    #13. Integration.
    Maybe this isn't the best word for what I'm going to try to explain. I read a blog entry a while ago, and it really made me think. This quote made so much sense to me- "However, when you take the time to discover her for everything she is and find her intentions, it’s about letting her change you into the man you were always meant to be and allowing yourself to need her in order to become more than who you are."

    Except I'd like to apply it universally. When two people take the effort to become so close, they almost partially integrate their personalities and souls into one... the right person will turn you into the person you were meant to be. Maybe upon meeting them you don't love yourself, or dislike some of your qualities, but when someone else can honestly and truly love, appreciate, approve of, everything that makes you, you- it makes you accept yourself and see what your greatest potential could be. it's a hard concept to explain and I'm not doing well at it, but as a concept, I like it very much.

    #14. Happiness.
    I believe above all else a relationship will only succeed if you truly make one another happy. There is no way to have a flawless relationship. There will be disagreements. There will be sad times... there will be anger. But as long as you've found someone who makes you truly happier than you've ever known, it's worth it. There should always be more happiness than bad feelings. Apply it mathematically; if you spend more days of the week angry at your loved one than happy with them, your relationship probably isn't going well.

    So. Agreements? Disagreements? Add your own?

    As a side note, I'd like to mention that intimacy and sexuality are a big part of any healthy relationship, and I feel like they can only truly be appreciated and experienced to their full potential when two people are this fully entwined with one another's beings... however, intimate/sexual relationships are a whole other lengthy topic, from which I'll refrain expressing opinion and discussing on the interwebs. I like to keep those things to myself :)

Comments (26)

  • irishgrrl690@xanga

    Excellent post. These are the unspoken "rules" of my relationship as well... i feel like most of these are no-brainers, but not everyone understands how important they are!

  • nancynn89

    You couldn't have said it any better. All of these are key to a successful relationship but not everyone is willing to take the time out to do it. Trust is a big thing to me and which I believe is the most important thing to have in a happy and healthy relationship. Once you have established trust, then everything else will hopefully fall into place.

    I must admit, I'm not a patient person and the best person to communicate with. Yes, I like to hear myself talk. But I'm so thankful to have someone who is willing to put their needs aside to cater to mine. Great post! 

  • BeautifulDisaster04@xanga

    Great post. I agree with all the "rules".

  • lenybobsyouruncle@xanga
    i bring this up because this post is allot like girls making a list of things the guy has to have/be, just this time it is 'the relationship'.
    you don't need to make things work, if they work already. by which i mean, you don't need to make an effort if you 'just click'. so is commitment and dedication really needed? is it a healthy relationship if you have to try not to break up? 'if you let love go and it comes back then you've always been loved, if not you never were'
    "it’s about letting her change you into the man you were always meant to be and allowing yourself to need her in order to become more than who you are." lol... according to the most recent studies in psychology, people can't change like that. and beyond that, even if it were possible, for both to believe he changed, he wouldn't be happy.
    is 'evolved patience' anything like beer, or would that be fermented patience? ;D (joke :)
  • wizard_howl@xanga

    My boyfriend and I "just click", like @lenybobsyouruncle@xanga said. We have no boundaries and fall into step together exactly. It's nice to have something like that. I couldn't see me being with anyone else.


    This post is great, though. You do need all of these things to make a relationship work. I hate seeing posts about all of these girls dating these dumbass jerks, it makes me sad. Let go, gals, there's someone better, willing to do all of these things for you and more ;3

  • PMFoutofwater

    Great post indeed. But you can get hung up on analysing a relationship. Sometimes better to just go for the flow.
    http://plentymorefishoutofwater.blogspot.com/

  • Dustin_wind@xanga

    You forgot one thing on this list. Love.

    Although I will add that love does not exist first starting out, in order for it to work in the long run love needs to exist.

  • silverlocket_88@xanga

    If you obey all the rules except #3, its pointless to have a relationship. Great post anyway.

  • greenglow28@xanga

    I forgot to mention respect and compromise. hmm.

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @Dustin_wind@xanga - aww this is so true. I just figure if you've got all of these things, you'll probably get love out of it! lol

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @silverlocket_88@xanga - if you obey every rule but 3, you probably don't HAVE  relationship... haha :) good point.

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @PMFoutofwater - well I basically sat down and thought about it, and I thought, "what is currently making my relationship work?" and this is what I came up with :) I don't analyze on a daily basis or anything. I actually don't analyze at all, anymore... I wrote this over a year ago.

  • Dustin_wind@xanga

    @greenglow28@xanga - yeah haha i tend to speak the truth in datingish posts....lol whether it be good or bad =P

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @lenybobsyouruncle@xanga - I know what you mean. but I think that if you just "click" then all of these relationship skills come naturally to you and your significant other. it's not necessarily that you're making an effort to abide by all of these; but they should always be happening in a successful relationship. they are the things that make a relationship work, even if you don't sit down and break down your relationship to figure that out.

    get what I mean?

    and evolved patience is kind of like fermented beer, lol. I didn't start out with a lot but the more my love has grown the more patient I am... the more beer ferments the better it is? the more I mature the better I am at being patient? I don't know, something like that :)

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @wizard_howl@xanga - this is the case for me too. my boyfriend and I click and all of these things just work naturally for us :) but they are still really detrimental to our relationship, and I took the time to really sit down and figure that out.

    I also agree, especially when you read about "we've been together for 4 years and he just cheated on me but I still want him to propose because I love him..." it's like people don't understand that they would be better off breaking up and finding someone new. when you're stuck in a toxic relationship you're not giving yourself a chance to find someone who could be so  much better... then again, some women don't believe they deserve better or refuse to think that there is better out there. and that, is what is truly sad to me :(

  • jamoncita@xanga

    @lenybobsyouruncle@xanga - i agree about a relationship not requiring much effort to work.  things should go along smoothly, naturally.  only when kinks are hit, should an effort be made to straighten things out.  a relationship is not all work.  i think i just said the same thing several times in different ways. ha

  • jamoncita@xanga

    the most important things in my relationship are trust and respect.  without those things i cannot love, and without love there is no relationship to speak of.  everything else - affection, attention, communication, honesty - all those things and more are inherent in a loving, healthy relationship.  no list or explanation is needed.

  • lenybobsyouruncle@xanga

    @greenglow28@xanga - i think they don't come naturally. also some of the traits, i wonder if they matter. i know that being happy isn't that important in some relationships. sometimes you can be miserable, only because the other person is happy, you might do the most degrading stuff possible.... not that i know anything about that ;D


    i got what you meant (i think, can't be sure honestly). the major rebuttal i see, is that some relationships are very disharmonious. and work really well. and some of your points contradict other points like 'priorities' and 'selflessness' are complete contradictions. your priorities may be to better the your self and your partner thon's self but two strong selfs don't necessarily mean one strong couple.i think for a long term relationship you have to be okay to be let down occationally. and trust enough that when you are on the recieving end, that your partner in crime has cause/reason. but it isn't about priorities to me as much as it is about scarcity of time.if you truely care you'll wait 5 min for 'em to finish up their present endeavor, but it doesn't mean the endeavor is worth more, just that it is way more effective and efficient. in music, jamming for 20 seconds a million times, is worth less than 2 min non stop. another min or two here may offer higher quality, undistracted attention and also offer more time overall for you two to be together.
    to me, the partner always has 'priority'. because school is a location for meeting people in a relaxed environment. if they wanted to learn they would use a library (harsh but true). and family... so you want to be with the person long term, by showing you value family... i can see that sorta, except that don't you want the person to be family eventually? if so showing them they arn't as important as people you are forced to care about seems a bit counter intuitive.
    be careful about patience; if you let beer/wine sit too long in the sun, it turns to vinegar. and i have a bit of experience in that.is my position mistaken somewhere?
  • lenybobsyouruncle@xanga

    something i would add to the list is:

    complete ignorance about whatever the SO does professionally.
    not necessary but helpful. cause there is something about the idea of your partner viewing you as ineffectual, that causes issues. and if you do, know stuff, express little unsolicited comments. like if your partner is a plumber 'the sink is broke' is better than ' the garbage disposal broke a 3/4" diapelease screw... the one that looks like a cowboy hat ' or w/e.same is true with music, 'do you like it' is different than 'what should come next' or 'help meplz'
    and offering that unsolicited addition, moreso if the person has no idea WTF you're saying... bad stuff... no idea why, i think it might make the other person feel less important or something... idk.
  • wizard_howl@xanga

    @greenglow28@xanga - You're right, but I guess breaking it off isn't easy. I've had that one "guy who treats you like crap but you still love him for whatever reason". It's something to hold on to when you have nothing else, but still...I wish I had more common sense at the time :P We all learn eventually.

  • greenglow28@xanga

    @wizard_howl@xanga - oh yeah, I'm not going to lie. I've been there. but at the same time, I was 16; and that relationship taught me a LOT about self-respect and what/ who I deserve.

    like people go through this and they have that one person for years and years... or they go through multiple poisonous relationships and they never get out of that awful cycle... like I learned better the first time around, and I wish that more people could too. it's just so bad for anyone, overall. mentally, and it can have physical effects... you'd be suprised what unhappiness and stress can do to your body. it's just so unhealthy.

    there's a difference between making it a learning experience and trapping yourself. and I know it's not easy, and that it's not always anyones fault that they don't realize what they're doing to themself... ah. it's a hard topic. it's easy to judge those people and call them stupid but it's also foolish because a lot of the time, you don't know a lot of the details... blah. it's just hard. I also feel terrible for those people and advise that they drop their relationship asap because despite how much it's going to hurt, they deserve better. always.

  • fob525@xanga

    My boyfriend are exactly like everything described. The amazing part? We never have to try. We just clicked, and evertyhing happened to fall into place. I really like this blog. In no means, is this a "list of what every girl is looking for". Guys look for it too. I think these are completely reasonable, and are completely needed.

    I think couples that are having problems should read this. It'd help them decided if they are the person for them or not.


    Excellent.

  • PMFoutofwater

    I was emailed to say there had been a reply to my comment. Here's what came up:


    greenglow28@xanga just replied to your comment: Great post indeed. But you can get hung up on anal...




    @PMFoutofwater - well I basically sat down and thought about it, and I thought, "what is currently making my relationship work?" and this is what I came up with :) I don't analyze on a daily basis or anything. I actually don't analyze at all, anymore... I wrote this over a year ago.

  • perfectionSeeker@xanga

    the more you give from ur heart the more chance that you will get hurt,
    let him love you more than you do, and wrong dont trust him never ever
    trust boys because this may got you into a real shock 

  • Himeki@xanga

    thank you for sharing

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