Thursday, 03 December 2009
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The Future of Romeo and Juliet
Every time some older woman once says they are looking for a Romeo, I ask them, "oh, you want a young, naive tenderoni?" Because the one thing I seem to get about fairy tales are the ones who fall in love either just met or are young. So, Romeo and Juliet may be a sweet love story, but their love ended when they were young. I want to take some time to predict just what would happen, if the both of them did not drink the poison or kill each other in the church.
First, they run away, and fall deeply in love. Then, people in the city they land upon are going to warn them the true meanings of love. They explain that the reason old men are to be married to them is because they have experience or understanding of love and the realistic side of it. But neither Romeo or Juliet are going to hear it. Maybe even tell them that in order to understand love, you need to be in love. Soon enough, as they settle in, they both start to notice each other. Whether it is by irritating habits, lack of reasoning for their love or whatever be the reason, they both start to wonder whatever happened to the spark at that party. Then, at least one of them starts to question their love for one another, which they both never wanted to do.
The more that question comes to fruition, the likely each other are going to point out what's wrong with each other or start to worry. They both notice a change, but know that things can't possibly get any worse. They can get that spark back. Something so beautiful can't stay so uncomfortable or tainted forever, right?
Wrong. Eventually, they question love, and the idea of it. Love was supposed to be happy. It was supposed to be beautiful, illuminating, comforting. They also question whether they were wrong all along, and if so, then what's the idea of love? Heaven forbid kids as naive in love both hurt each other, but if they do reach that point, it would be war all over again between the two families, with Romeo recalling Mercutio's rant about the foolishness of love and lovers.
For star crossed determined lovers, Romeo and Juliet loved each other, but that is until they grow up and find that love takes more, and involves everything emotionally. That is always how it is when you are as young as 16 or a young teenager. Love feels like something grand, something happy, something so powerful, not even poetry can describe. We hope the spark won't go out, and are sure it won't. Then reality kicks in and we notice that love can be everlasting, but its not all roses and flowers all the time and certainly, not with just everybody.
Love at 16 is pretty naive and hopeful. Always has been and always will be.
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Love shouldn't be determined by age.
I've been in love once, at 15. I know it's hard for people to believe, but it is possible.
I think it's about maturity, not age.
I can't stand that play, for some reason. It's not even sad or tragic to me, and I cry over everything. I think it is because they are young and naive, and they weren't really in love. Romeo was just in love with being in love, which is why he believed he was in wholly, truly in love with Juliet.
People tend to forget that Romeo and Juliet were barely teenagers in that play. If that happened in the 21st century people would say they were in lust, not love, and they would be made fun of for being so emo...
Romeo and Juliet piss me off. I think people forget or don't even know the fact that Romeo was pretty much an idiot who got his best friend killed, his lovers cousin killed, killed himself for no reason, and ended up getting his lover killed as well...why in the hell would anyone want to be with a guy like him? People just get hung up on the false statement that it was the most romantic love story of all time or whatever they try to portray it as when a new movie about it comes out.
I don't think anyone can claim to truly be in love until they've been with someone for an extended period of time. After they learn every sordid detail about their lives and are still in love completely with that person then maybe that's real love. Otherwise it's all an illusion. Well not really, just a love to a much lesser degree that may or may not have any real substance behind it.
i hate romeo and juliet.. but only cause my name is juliette and everyone feels the need to mention romeo when i meet them. whenever someone asks me if they can be my romeo i say "oh, you want me to be stupid and kill myself now? no thank you". i hate it, i hate it, i hate it!!!
Agreed.
They were teenagers, speculations that maybe Juliet was fourteen ?
Even going along with everyone saying that being in love is about maturity and not age, fine, I'll give you that.
But, look at it this way:These two kids met at some party and instantly decided they were in love.They were not in love, they were in lust. And there is a difference and it is the reason that so many people look down on young romance. I've seen so often so many kids meet a person, or have a good conversation or two with someone and instantly decide that they're in love.
I think that's a problem with a lot of teenagers right now, to be honest. I'm not saying that all do this, but it happens so often. They go into a relationship, not in the hopes of falling in love with someone great, but they go into it instantly thinking that this is love, that this is going to be their one and then it just all falls apart for them...You set yourselves up for tragedy going into something backwards.
Heh. I dunno. Could be some exceptions.
not really a fan of r&j.
but i enjoyed this post. thank you x
I understand the concept here.
But the idea of Romeo and Juliet is beyond their age.
I believe the real theme of the age old story is "through great tragedy comes great miracles".
Look past the love story and into the deeper meaning.
Imo.
@heidi_teamaster@xanga - I know. The whole idea of bringing peace to theri family. But that part gets kind of lost, when teens call each other romeo and Juliet all the time. (Actually, in retrospect, those names seem to fit. Haha!)
Romeo and Juliet is a satire. I don't know why more people haven't realized that. It's a brutal, brutal deconstruction of what happens when you let your heart run away with your head.
@sarahzthoughts@xanga - I completely agree with you, especially because the "being so emo" part.
and then Juliet gets pregnant and is like "F*ck you, Romeo, you don't get it because you've never carried a baby and you have no freakin' idea what it's like to have a baby kicking your bladder so you have to pee CONSTANTLY. You should be going to the store to get me the cherry tomatos and ice cream I'm craving instead of going on and on with this poetry bullsh*t because this is YOUR baby I'm carrying after all. How about a "thank you"?"
and even though it's the hormones talking and Romeo is an "ok" guy, that happens because... well, I'm pregnant and that's how I feel!
And he's going to want to play with her boobs because they're so huge but they hurt! And then they'll have a baby and be like "Holy crap, who's going to do the diaper?" but I think it'll be ok because they had kind of simpler lives in the 1600's and less modern pressures so I think they'd actually stay together and everything will be fine until they have to deal with their own little girl running off with some hoodlum.
... oh wait, we're going off the "what if they didn't die" scenario, right? Because I could write about their really awkard Thanksgiving dinner too, but I don't think they'd break up just because they're teenagers. I mean, the virgin Mary was 13 when she had Jesus. That was the average age of marriage and motherhood in ancient Athens (which actually made them weaker than Spartan, where the average age of a woman's first child was a healthier 19) 16 is only young by today's standards and due to the fact that we keep "growing up" and going to college and "discovering ourselves" and we have so many options. They didn't have all those options or "identity" phases back then - so 14 was pretty much "grown." In contrast, we're alot more "Emo" these days. Romeo and Juliet weren't emo, they were lustful and impulsive. Even rockstars fall in love, but their not emo. Emo people cry about stuff before they do it. Romeo and Juliet just went ahead and did it.
BTW, I kind of believe in the potential for love at first sight. You know right away if you want to pursue someone or not, and every once in a while that person ends up loving you back. Love at first sight isn't a 100% thing. It's hardly even a 1% thing. But this wasn't their first romance either, Romeo was still getting over that Roseline girl in the begining of the play, remember? He's a sensitive guy.
Romeo and Juliet, the classic tale of rebound, allowed to run amok. All because Romeo got dumped by Rosalyn, a bunch of people had to die and a bunch of other peoples' lives were ruined.
Juliet was 13 years old. I know that at 13, NO ONE had EVER gone through what I was going through, and NO ONE understood me and I knew EVERYTHING and nobody had better try to tell me what to do 'cause they didn't know me. I was hot shit. Actually, more full of hot shit. I cringe when I think of the things I did, said, wore, and liked when I was 13, because I was incredibly immature. No wonder my parents didn't let me date! It's a good thing I was an obedient kid 'cause if I had defied them like Juliet did, I might have ended up dead in a mausoleum, too.
@breaking_expectations@xanga - Agreed. I've heard of a few couples being together at 80 or so since 16, never met any haha. I think I might have been in love at 15. The feeling wore off after about 2 years though.
Meaningful and lasting relationships are too much work for self-absorbed teenagers.
Older woman want to find their Romeo not because they're looking for a 16-year old boy (because that's just jailbait right there), but another person in this world who would do anything for them. That other person who would care, tolerate, and want to spend time with.
I agree Romeo and Juliet were young and naive, but as we grow older, we'll want that same excitement for the adrenaline rush, just to feel young again.
Actually, if they'd lived they wouldn't have to worry about it for long. It was the norm to marry that young back then, and the life expectancy wasn't at all what it is today. People living to 50 or 60 was rare and you were ancient if you did. :p Mostly due to hard work. Yes, these two were nobility of some kind, however even if they'd gotten away they wouldn't have access to the same luxuries they would have if their families had accepted them. They would have to live like peasants, even if they weren't born to be peasants. So, they would die young. She probably having lots of children, and he working himself to death. :p
They might have ended up very unhappy with their lives and with each other. But, as I said, they wouldn't have to worry about it for long. They would've had to make the best of it they possibly could, though, because back then it wasn't nearly easy at all to get a divorce. I think you actually had to have permission from the Pope himself. o.o; And even then I think it was less likely he'd grant a divorce and more likely it would be called an annulment. IF he granted it, which would be unlikely considering how the Church frowned upon such things.
But, in the end it doesn't matter ANYway. Why? Because, Romeo and Juliet were not real people. They were made-up characters, in a made-up story to be a made-up play by a playwright that many even today herald as either brilliant or mediocre at best. Depending on who you are and how you see it. I've heard both.
Romeo and Juliet is a play, it isn't real. And people who for some reason use it as a guideline for what love really is or should stand for or should be are sadly mistaken. Its a nice thought, really it is! I can definitely see the allure. But, it just isn't realistic.
One could say that I have no sense of romance because of my opinions on this. Maybe they're right, maybe they're not. But, in the end whether I have a sense of romance or not...it doesn't matter. It doesn't change the facts.
It was a beautiful love story, although to me it was a little annoying with all of the bumbling going on (although that was probably the point, or at least one of the points), but in the end it is just that. A story. Fiction. Fantasy.
There's nothing wrong with liking it! There's nothing wrong with reading it/watching it and then at the end or in various places in between sighing in whimsical happiness at the beauty of their relationship and devotion to each other....but in the end one must realize it was never real in the first place. Just a play.
A lot of people seem to forget this, I think. And even bring Romeo and/or Juliet up in conversation to prove points about real love. That's fine and dandy, but neither Romeo nor Juliet were real people. So, their love was not real either. The circumstances surrounding their meeting, their love, and their deaths were fake, too. It can't be something held up to real life, not in all actuality.
actually they were 13-14ish. haha, women back then had to get pregnant young b.c life expectancy was short. but yeah, i agree with lots of what you say. i like the text, but the story...eh...could be better.
i just spent a long weekend talking about what an idiot i was when i though love conquered all.
romeo and juliet strike me as the first recorded emo couple... love at 16 was probably difficutl then and is probably more difficult now. love is just a game.
First of all, Romeo & Juliet had just as much chance of ending up like Oliver & Barbara from War of the Roses as they did ending up like Elyot & Amanda from Private Lives, (or maybe Harry & Mariom from Requiem for a Dream) but I highly doubt they would've ended up some sad, loveless couple who drifted apart from each other. People with that kind of passion for love (which I think is what people fantasize about when they refer to the play) have that kind of passion for everything. It's just who they are.
Secondly, I think a lot of commenters here are forgetting that the play isn't about the tragic love story of two star-crossed lovers, it's a tragic story about two families who lose everything (i.e. their children) over a feud that no one can even remember. That's what drives the entire plot and everyone who dies in this play (Mercutio, Tybalt, Paris, Romeo, Juliet) does so as a result of the feud, not Romeo & Juliet's love. No one even KNOWS the two are in love until after everyone's dead!
I don't think age should be a deciding factor to say if someone is in love or not. Maturity should be a bigger factor. We can't say for anyone else whether they are actually in love or not, because we aren't feeling what they are.
Of course love isn't all roses and pretty things. I agree with this. I think too many people make it out to be something SO beautiful, trouble free with no worries. But thats not it, love is learning to accept the faults in your relationship, work with your partner to keep that spark, even during those times of arguing. I think if love was purely perfect, no problems whatsoever it'd get to be pretty boring. What's the point of having something so beautiful if you don't have to work for it? I don't think it'd feel as special as it does when you get past those differences with someone so close to you. It makes the relationship stronger and the love grow. Those differences are needed in a relationship in order to keep it together I think.not sure how much this relates to the post, but in my opinion, love when you're young and 'naive and hopeful' without having been hurt in the past, seems like it's much harsher and unforgiving than love when you've learnt more about yourself.Â
just my twisted view? anyone agree/think i ought to shush now?
haha guess it's good they died then huh
@untainted_love_for_her@xanga - yeah man
Nice analogy!!