Tuesday, 03 November 2009
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"Choose Another Girlfriend"
My boyfriend and I have been together for nearly two years. We have been talking about the possibility of us getting married in the future. However, both sides of his extended families hate me. The thing is they are not hating me because of my personality, but rather because I am not Chinese (I am Japanese), and also because I am skinny and petite.His dad’s sides hate me because the Japanese betrayed their people years ago during the wars. Also, they would talk behind my back, and show disgusts for me because I can’t speak Cantonese. They would bash my culture and people. In lamens terms, they are racists and only think that Chinese people are superior.
His mom’s sides dislike me because I am skinny and petite (I'm 5'0), and they prefer my boyfriend to be with a girlfriend who has more meat. They like thicker, and meatier females and would always berate my boyfriend to “Choose another girlfriend”, “Why did you choose her? She’ll probably die when giving birth?” His grandmother would call and each time would ask him, “Is she gone yet? Have you gotten rid of her?" They liked his last girlfriend because she was 5'7 and was meaty; even though she cheated on him. They still prefer him with her because she looks like she could give birth.
Also, sometimes just random Chinese people would come back (example, neighbors, construction workers, people who fix the plumbing) and would give their two cents about me. My boyfriend didn’t ask for their opinions, but they would say things like, “Is that your girlfriend, she’s too small; you really need to reconsider your choice in girlfriend.” It was extremely hurtful when he told me what was being told to him.
He defends me, but he can only do so much. They will never change their opinions of me. I can be as nice, helpful, warm, and loving as possible, and they will always disapprove of me because of either my race, or my size.
Yes, I am petite. I can’t change that. I have a fast metabolism and it’s extremely hard for me to gain weight. It is not like I don’t eat; I eat three meals a day and sometimes a midnight snack like everyone else.
We love each other, but this constant criticism and hate towards me is really hurting me emotionally. I am starting to feel this detestation towards his family because this emotional abuse has been going on since we dated. My family has great hopes for me that I will one day be marry and happy. They don’t know what is going on, because I am afraid to tell them, and I don’t want to burden my family with this.
Despite my boyfriend not being the same race as I am; my family members have always welcomed him with open arms. I don’t understand how his family members who have been living in Canada for so many years can still be extreme racists.
I feel as though I will never be good enough, and if one day I do marry him; I will still be hated. I just don't know what to do anymore. I know that this constant berating and hate towards will never end, but how can I let it not affect me so much?
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bless your heart! i say once ya'll are married move far far far away. just remember you would be marrying him.. not his family and they can just GET OVER IT. i'm sure they will eventually.
I'm so sorry that you have to go through all of this. I've been in a similar situation with my fiance but it was never this extreme. His father hated me right off the bat because I have piercings and 2 tattoos and assumed that all I wanted to do was take my fiance's money. He's tried everything in his power to break us up. It's really hard not to let it get to you but sometimes all you can do is bite your tongue and be happy with the person you love. Love knows no boundaries.
Im sorry about your situation. My ex's family didnt really care for me because I wasn't Vietnamese. And my brother had a real dislike for my ex, because of the strain that was caused throughout the relationship. It is and always will be an older generation thing. My father who is Chinese married my mother who is Japanese, and it was hard for them as well. Especially with the older generation Chinese never forgiving what happened at Nanking. Though this is not any fault of your own, the older generation will continue to be narrow minded. I really hope the best for you, because I know how hard it can be when the families dont approve of the relationship.
ouch. i dated a japanese/chinese girl before but my parents didn't say much about that (and they have a lot of korean pride). i seriously don't think you should stick around and see what it'll be like 10 years down the road. it's best to pack your stuff and leave now before this relationships ruins your psyche. even if they become nice all of a sudden by some miracle, you're still always going to remember how they treated you.
this is my honest opinion. to me, family is everything. if you have bad relations now, it's not likely to get any better in the future and that will cause major problems with your relationship (maybe not now, but when you're married - definitely).
*HUG* I don't know who you are, but I feel for you.
Aw. I'm sorry to read this! I wanna say leave and never look back but I can't. Everyone has to make their own finalized decisions and he does love you and isn't really letting his family's opinion determine being with you. I think I don't really like that he doesn't stand up for you. It's about time he really did.
ahh i'm so sorry about your situation. asian nationalities always have some unrequited hate for each other. if my parents knew i was dating a chinese boy, they'd kill me.
Honestly, that family sounds completely ignorant. I don't understand how they could project all their hatred of the old Japanese regime upon you. It's absolutely ridiculous. If your boyfriend really wants this to work, he needs to do a better job of defending you from such hurtful remarks. He really needs to do a better job of being a man and pointing out their ignorance and for them to focus on the person, not the ethnicity.
I think it's really strange that these random folks (i.e., construction workers and plumbers) would say such things to him. What's wrong with petite women? There are a ton of guys out there who absolutely love petite women.
Goodness gracious! My feisty side wants to tell you to give them the finger and marry your man and tell them if they ever want to see their grand kids, they better be nice to you or else you'll raise them speaking Japanese and English only! HA, take that!
Okay, a more rational comment. Yes family is tough but when you and your BF gets married, you will now start a family of your own. Plus, you said he defends you so that's a good sign. Don't ever let other people influence your decision about your future. Not to sound like a cliché, but not many people get along with their in-laws, races, religions aside. As for them liking meaty girls? What kind of Chinese are they? Hell, I'm a size small here but when I went to Hong Kong, I had to buy large clothes so they thought I was big! Asians in general are the most fat-phobic people I have ever met...
@HollowTendencies@xanga - I, honestly, think when you marry someone, you also marry their family. You can't just marry their son, pack, and leave because you can't stand them. They're his family too. It's all a package deal, imo.
But then again, it all depends on the persons culture as well. From what I know, most Asian families are close knitted. Some of the sons even marry their wives and then bring their wives back to live with their family for xxx amount of year until they are financially ready to move out (and vice versa). And others, have to stay and take care of their parents when they get to their old age because that's how their culture is. It either fall on the eldest son or the youngest son.
And I definitely agree with @lot223@xanga. If you are having difficulties getting along with his family now, when and if you do get married to your boyfriend, it will just get harder and cause more complications on yourself and your marriage.
If you can be patient and let them overcome this "narrow minded" thinking of theirs, stay. If not, better to leave now than later when you're all tied up.
@EnjoyEdii@xanga - He defends her, she says. So, I'm thinking he does stand up for her.
I understand. When I was younger, my dad didn't really like me dating anyone else that wasn't Chinese. And he got pissed when I went out with a white girl. However, he loosened up over the years and now doesn't really care anymore. My aunt, however, is the same as your boyfriend's parents. She still holds bitterness against the Japanese for invading China and nothing has ever changed her mind. The thing is, your boyfriend is the only one who matters. If he still loves you for who you are, he is the one for you. I know it's hard and that sometimes, families make their children choose between the family or the SO. And usually, since the Chinese stay pretty loyal to their family, often times, they would choose the family. Not to scare you or anything, but it's a new era and maybe your boyfriend will look past all the negativity his parents and family are giving him. And that he will choose love in his future with you.
@jeezshoua@xanga - yup. agree with everything you posted. especially about the "taking care of your parents" bit when you get older. it's definitely a cultural thing and something the poster is going to have to deal with later on.
Well if he loves you enough he will be able to ignore them. It may be hard.
My mother doesn't like my boyfriend because he hasn't gone to college yet, and he's not as ambitious as me. She doesn't understand his upbringing. First she didn't like him because he didn't have his high school, and he stood up for himself when she talked down to him. Now she doesn't like him because he doesn't have a job and he isn't in college. I just ignore her, tell her that she doesn't know him.
It is really a shame that his parents are like that. I hope the best for both of you.
Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream.
Sometimes life is hard and the hand dealt to us unfair.
But life would be boring without a little challenges once in awhile, no?
Think of it as a challenge. It may take awhile, but be the best you can be and you'll win them over :)
I am a cantonese, and I am 5'1". I am not sure y your bf's family has issues with you. All my frds from HK/Macau are happy with japanese. I dun think my dad's generation has much problem with japanese too.. We all know well that war had to do with the past government, and hatred should not pass along to the next generation. I m not considered to be "too short" among cantonese... and ppl actually like my size.
I hope things will go well with you. I believe time can prove to everyone that you are a good person. =)
My boyfriend's mom tried to get our friends to break us up at the beginning of our relationship. It wasn't about race (although I can't imagine how they'd react if he ever dated a black girl), but more so about impossible-to-meet expectations. His parents didn't like me at all, were very judgmental, and they refused to get to know me for a long time. The wanted him to have a rich, Catholic, very conservative, very outgoing/social yet boringly normal, Ivy-League-educated, supermodel-beautiful girlfriend with a powerful career (lawyer, doctor, business exec, etc.). And I'm being completely serious; those were their expectations. So when this Polish, agnostic, vegetarian, liberal, really quiet and socially anxious, college-drop-out-starving-artist from a middle class family showed up, they hated me. They frequently tried to convince my boyfriend to find another girlfriend and would often complain to him on the phone when I was sitting there in the room with him. They had long, demeaning conversations about me when they were alone with him, or they'd point out some cute waitress or store clerk and tell him to ask her out instead. I always heard about these things later on. They refused to acknowledge him when he said I was the best thing that had ever happened to him and that he was happy with his choice in girlfriends. It hurt very badly.
Thankfully, they have finally begun to understand who I am as an individual, and have started to treat me with respect. It only took 3.5 years.... But I guess it's better than my mom's relationship with her in-laws. They never accepted her simply because she wasn't a full-blooded Polish Catholic.
I'd say try to stick it out if you have a thick enough skin. Perhaps they will come to accept you in time.
i'll give you my 2 cents and some hope. i'm cantonese and so are both my parents but for some reason, my paternal side of the family hated my mom for so long when my parents got together. they gave my mom so much pressure and she went through so much. and my dad wasn't exactly the type who would stick up for my mom in front of his family (...chinese people...). well one day, my mom went up to my grandma and did the whole kneel-and-tea thing and apologized for whatever she did. and now, even though my parents are divorced and my dad is dead, my grandma LOVES my mom (sometimes, even more than her own sons). and my mom, sister, and i go over to my grandma's house every week and we have the most awesome time watching chinese TV and talking...
i don't know if your religious or anything but i'm going to leave you with a bible verse that i absolutely LOVE: "your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight." - 1 peter 3:3-4
From what I've seen through the years most Chinese adults from the last generation still have a really strong hatred for Japanese people. I was in China a few years ago during a soccer championship. It was Japan Vs China. Japan won, and the Japanese people who were staying in the same place as me were afraid to come out, and had the local Chinese people beating down their door. Needless to say they cut their time there short, instead of a month, they left after less than a week of being there.
In born racism like that is probably never going to leave a person, especially when they're that old it's hard to reform them. So you have to figure out whether you want to live with it, make your bf live with it, or find some other way. There's always the possibility that the parents miiiight change...but it's pretty doubtful.
He has to get angry to bring about change. If they aren't going to listen to reason, then it's going to be a battle of wills. He has to yell much louder than them, flip some tables, and hopefully set boundaries in the process. Basically, let them know he's willing to go apeshit if they continue abusing you.
@lot223@xanga - I totally agree with you. Some people say you aren't marrying their family, but you're marrying into the family, and if you don't like them, you're stuck there for life. You can't expect the person they love to cut ties with their relatives because they are nasty to you. Its a crappy situation to be in, and I feel sorry for the original poster.
i have the same problem! my bf is chinese and 6ft while i am vietnamese and a lil under 5ft :(. his parents don't approve of me as well because they consider me as a downgrade compared to his previous gfs. fortunately, they dont show any outward hostility towards me. (they just complain to him and he tells me). a couple weeks ago, their complaints got to him i guess and he actually considered breaking up with me over it since i am not "ideal". couple days later, he realized he was wrong and if he overlooked my ethnicity and my height/weight, then im perfect for him.
i dont really have an advice to offer you seeing how his family still doesnt like me. but i think it helps to know that theres someone out there thats in the same boat as you. also, i think over time, they will have to accept us if their son loves us right?
i'm really sorry that you're in such a tough spot. i think that the best you can do is make a genuine effort to get to know his family, and let them know why. if you want to get to know them because your boyfriend loves them and you hope to one day care about them also, tell them that. whatever the reason, honesty usually helps. and the whole criticizing you for being petite nonsense is ridiculous. why worry about your ability to have children because of your stature? if they're very concerned about that, i say just go to your doctor and ask if it's a legitimate worry. your physician should be able to tell you how real a concern it is, if at all, and the next time they bring it up, just recite everything your doc said. honestly, i can't think of any other way to get around that, but hopefully they'll trust a professional. they go to medical school for a reason, right? maybe by showing that you listened to their concern enough to ask your doc about it they'll see that you're trying to listen to their worries and make things better.
also, i think @LiL_pRaYeRs@xanga's response was great, and very insightful.
Wow. I really wouldn't know how to deal with that. How terrible.
Wow that's really messed up.. It must be really hard having to deal with that. I personally know that if I brought a Japanese guy/girl home they would think the same. It's really just racist and discriminatory, but I understand my grandparents because of what they've been put through. My grandparents were born and raised in Korea and at the time (when they were teens) Japan took over Korea and there was a lot of chaos. My grandma always tells me horror stories about the things that happened to her and her family. How they had to hide, how they were forced to do things.. :\ Infact my grandparents were so brainwashed it's easier for them to count in Japanese then Korean.. Their discriminatory views are not right, but try to understand his parents point of view. Maybe their family went through a lot of hurt and pain because of what Japan might have done in the past.
As for trying to make things better, you should really talk to them. Or your bf should really talk to them. I mean no one chooses their race. Plus, it's not EVEN your fault, it's all in the past. It's like incriminating a modern German person and calling them Nazi because of the past. It's not right. You gotta let them know hey, I'm sorry about what happened in the past but that has nothing to do with me. I love your bf, and I'm sorry my weight bothers you, but stop being so superficial, it's what makes your son happy that matters the most. Don't let the parents get in the way of your relationship, it's really stupid. I think a lot of parents (specifically asian) want their child to get married within their little ethnic group.. But I think if they see how genuine you are and what kind of person you are on the inside, they will be alright. The main thing is time, it'll just take lots of time for them to change their mind. Stick it out, and good luck. :)
I'm sorry you're going thru with this. My bf's mom hates my guts for speaking back/yelling at her (Chinese people/most parents know you don't speak back to the elders) because all she wants and all she argues about with her son is money. She always wants money. He was laid off because of her, but yet she still wants money.
I've never heard of Chinese families wanting their daughters in law to be meaty. The most, maybe slightly meaty but they want their daughters in law to look good too so the offsprings will look good. Altho Chinese ppl do value height. They want their future grandkids and great grandkids to be taller than the generations before. I don't know what to tell you that will make the situation better. Just keep being nice and polite and if you two ever get married, they will eventually stop harassing him to get another 'wife'. Don't ever talk shyt about them back, because then your bf will be put into a spotlight.