Wednesday, 21 October 2009

  • I Don't Believe in "Dating"

    Dating. Consorting. Friends with Benefits. Call it what you want & do what you will, I'm not fit for any of those.


    Dating has never been my thing, and I've been told various times that I'm not dating material, and not just by guys, either, but by my friends as well. The catch with me is I've only been with 2 other guys before my fiancé. No, I don't have a history of being clingy [or abusive], but I am passionate. I've never been too complicated, but I am strict towards certain aspects (sex as top-of-the-list). And I've never been dumped, but I have always come to a mutual agreement with the guy.

    A majority of my friends tell me that I'm not "dating material" because I'm more of a serious long-term type of girl, and I agree [for the most part]. When I say I'm strict, I don't refer it to as keeping tabs on the guy 24/7 and being paranoid- no, I mean that I'd rather kiss and cuddle and actually mean it; I'd rather say "making love" than just sex because I would like it to be love instead of pleasure and not abuse it. Yes, the pleasures awesome, but intimacy, I believe, should take place between two people who at least care for each other and want to make each other happy, and that's what it should all be about.

    One night stands are basically a sin for me because I view it as a person either feeling sorry for themselves because they just got dumped, they're drunk out of their minds and don't have the decency to hold onto their dignity or self preservation, they do pity sex just so they don't tell the truth about how they feel (god forbid) and hurt someone's feelings, or they have absolutely no compassion for other human beings and only care about their satisfaction. But that's just my opinion, mind you.

    Marriage. Yes, I have a fiancé, and we were best friends long before we even started being intimate, and by intimate, I mean a close and familiar relationship with another person; Might I remind you that just because two people are being intimate toward each other doesn't necessarily mean that they're having sex. Intimacy is simply feeling very close to someone. And that's exactly what David and I were- two people who felt close to each emotionally and personally. We were, and still are, best friends for 9 years before he asked me if I wanted to be in a relationship with him, and it took me two weeks to decide. I wasn't trying stalling, I was debating on whether or not being together like that would make our friendship awkward, and I decided that it wouldn't at all; I figured that since we'd been around each other for so long, actually knowing how each others minds work, & knowing each others weaknesses and strengths, it would only make the relationship all the better. So I said yes. And here we are, 4 years later and engaged with a bun in the oven that's due in December. Literally a happily ever after.


    David is such an awe-inspiring, divine, & admirable person; it baffles me as to how much he opened up before he purposed marriage to me, and before that I thought I really knew him. He's told me so much about everything personal that's happened, and knowing that someone is willing to do that, regardless of the embarrassment, really does make me want to cry. Happy tears, of course. He's always told me I'm beautiful even through 8 months of pregnancy where I see myself as a planet with gravitational force. He's never pressured me into sex. Ever. Even if his body had urges, he told me that as long as I felt like it was love and affection and not just pleasure, he would be patient no matter what. He is very open minded and prioritized towards any given subject and will listen to every point of view I may have, even if it's about the sex .

    And I am the same way towards him. You see, I don't believe in "dating" because I would never want to open up to a person in ways such as kissing, sex, cuddling, personal thoughts, embarrassing experiences, etc., just because they asked me out or wanted to "call me as their own" (and me not feel comfortable with it). A man & woman being friends with each other or getting to know them in general is already adjusting to who they are and them adjusting to you, minus the default behavior such as kissing or cuddling just because you're supposed to be dating that people program into their minds, thinking that they have to do it; learning things about one another and making each other laugh is true intimacy, even if you two want to keep the relationship "just friends". Knowing that you can make another person happy and them doing the same for you is friggin' sweet, and carrying that on through a couple of years is just about as sweet as huckleberry pie.

    Being friends and knowing David for 9 years really helped both of us because by the 3rd year, we were already very comfortable with each other, and we didn't even think of us getting married... ya know? What's your opinion on Dating? Do you think the term fits it's purpose?

Comments (38)

  • snapeful@xanga

    I kinda skimmed your post because it was very long, but from what I gauged of it... I mostly agree with your take on marriage/finding an SO for those of us unfortunate folks unable to obtain a marriage license. I'm not one who really likes giving out my number to a person who asks and go on a first date. I definitely like being friends with somebody first. 

  • Parsimony@xanga

    You're fortunate that you don't have to or choose not to go through with it.  At its worst it gets to be a dreary showdown of the iniquities and catastrophes that come from the meeting of two different genders.  But at its best, it's getting to know someone--the opposite gender (or the same permitting) and sharing some good times together. 


    Personally, I prefer the slow build up of a relationship as opposed to dating.  I've yet to enjoy the process of dating many individuals for the above former reason.

  • snapeful@xanga

    @Parsimony@xanga - Is there a difference between courting and dating? I was under the impression they were just synonyms.
    Also... I love how you used the proper form of "its" instead of "it's!" Random, but it made my day!

  • Parsimony@xanga

    @snapeful@xanga - I would consider courting or wooing as strictly between two individuals and over a longer period of time.  Courtship is really defined as the process in which two people interact to get to the commitment stage.  Dating could be the social activities between two individuals while other people are in the picture and not necessarily physical until the process of elimination makes it so.

  • salvatruca_stalking_havok13@xanga

    Well, people's opinions on dating differ from person to person. You say you don't believe in it, but other people may just as well enjoy the experience. There's nothing wrong with dating or not dating, it's just that both types of people should probably not judge the other is all.

    Personally, I don't "believe" in dating because it goes against my romantic orientation. I'm happy all by myself. That doesn't mean I'll dismiss or judge others that do date because it obviously works for them.

  • Lil_Firefly_25@xanga

    There is nothing wrong with dating someone in my opinion. If you go on a few dates and it ends up not working out, it's easier to just pick up and move on. This doesn't mean you have sex or get intimate with every person you date. The first few dates are usually trying to get to know someone better before becoming exclusive/intimate. 

  • naguyin@xanga

    Dating doesn't make sense to me. It's so time consuming and it doesn't really get you anywhere. Dating? No. 


    Relationship? Yes. Relationships have actual meaning to it. You find out more things and you're generally better suited to that person (you find out faster too). 
    I like being "in depth", dating is too "slow" for me I guess. Slow, time consuming and I only ever skim the surface of the person. I try to go straight into "relationship mode" because even if it doesn't work out, nobody wasted hours and money to find out they're not good together. (I would probably make more sense with some hand movements, lol)
  • wolvenchic@xanga

    well I dated, but didnt date someone just to be with someone - you know? As soon as I realized they werent what I wanted in a SO for the rest of my life, it didnt seem worth it to be with them ...a waste of time and effort on both parties. I dated my now fiance exclusively for almost 6 years now. But I do consider it dating, because there was nothing really talked about other than "I love you so much, dont know what to do without you...maybe you are the one". Now I know for sure and are getting married. =)

  • superGchik@xanga

    i don't mind the dating so much.  it's fun to get to know people.  i've only been in two serious relationships my whole life and i only want to be in a committed relationship if that person's willing to meet half way on it.  though it could be tiring as well.  

  • JusticeCho@xanga

    Yeah dunno I've never dated anyone before.  Had a few girlfriends but they all just sort of happened. No going on dates and asking someone out to see if we mesh well.  Although I have asked people out before they just always turn me down heh.

  • eatdrinkandbemaryy@xanga

    you def got lucky that you and your bf fell for each other. the rest of us have to date to find a person to spend our lives with tho. 

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  • RazorBladeParade@xanga

    Since when does "dating" equate to having sex, or the absence of passion and intimacy?

    I think all relationships end eventually, some way or the other, and therefore how they're cultivated (as well as the labels and semantics involved) doesn't matter so much as the fact that they ever existed in the first place.

  • randomchild_and_honeyfountain@xanga
  • Lovebipolar117@xanga

    Heh. I love your point of view. What a sweetheart you are!
    Do I have any real experience with dating? No!
    But I do with intimacy, and you described it completely right. I like the way you felt about this, and the way you wrote about it.

  • helpingkill@xanga

    Awesome post... You were very lucky that things have worked out the way they did. Some of us stumble through and never have this. There are so many factors that go into a healthy relationship and that alter it. We as human's are constantly changing mentally and physically and from a scientific stand point anyone who has been married for over 5 years has really accomplished something. I wish you the best of luck especially since there is a child involved.  Considering that everything has been revealed i think everything will turn out the way God intends it to.


    I've been with many, but since she left I haven't felt true intimacy in years.

  • MistressAislin@xanga
  • wizexel22@xanga

    thats nice. not everyone can even find a good friend of the opposite sex....let alone that person becoming the "one".  some people end up taking very different paths to happiness. 

  • Mr_Babolat@xanga

    I agree with you wholeheartedly, dating is for fun, but most times it doesn't last. 

  • ieatcrayons

    I never really understood the whole "dating" thing because honestly how much different is it from a "relationship." You call she answers you do something same as a relationship, granted you don't have to show as much emotion in dating as you do in a relationship. I feel like "dating" is just being a player date this girl and at the same time you can "date" another girl, would you consider that cheating? I guess for me it comes down to why give 50% when i know i can give so much more it isn't fair to me or her.

  • feelslikejuly@xanga

    ha, I sound like you actually. I'm not into the dating thing. I mean before my S.O. and I were officially together we just chilled and did fun things, as friends. It took around four months to officially ask me to be his girlfriend...but we're doing well. I think if I were single and got into one night stands, love or relationships would just lose meaning. I'm the LT relationship girl. Right now I think I found the right guy for me, but we will see what happens in the future =)

  • turtletastic

    Sometimes it's just not an option for everyone. I dunno, I don't mind dating. For me, it's just a series of hanging outs that help you decide if you want to perhaps commit a little more to this person. The thing about requiring an intimate friendship first is that it can sometimes make it impossible. If I met my boyfriend and waited nine years to actually go out with him, we would have ended up going different ways before we could actually ever be together. At a point in my life where many things are changing, if I want to be intimate with someone, I would need to commit to it, as would they.

  • turtletastic

    @RazorBladeParade@xanga - Agreed!

    I don't understand the bashing! If you started hanging out because a guy asked you to watch a movie with him as opposed to just randomly meeting through a group of friends, what is the difference if you end up happy?

  • P0RCELA1N_D0LL@xanga

    dating is another term for sampling all the flavors and choosing your favorite combination.

  • LoveYouToDeath16@xanga

    Well, aren't you high up on your pedestal.

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