Wednesday, 21 October 2009

  • The Good, the Bad and the Way Too Nice!


    After a recent post featured here about how some women want assholes in their lives and men don't want to date the female equivalent I felt compelled to write about this.  I as a woman will not touch on what men want.  I don't have the necessary equipment either physically or mentally to say what men truly want.  Not to mention the fact that there are many types of men, all of which, I'm sure want different things.

    What I do want to touch on instead is this attraction to assholes.  I don't think it's quite correct.  First, for simplicity I'm going to divide all men into three broad categories.  Then I'll explain the categories and then I'll explain the "I'm into assholes" phenomenon.

    First there are the bad boys.  These are the assholes.  Not only do they dress in a somewhat edgy way (whatever edgy is for the time period and location) but they also act edgy.  They're mean, they're tough and they're downright sexy from a distance. They appear confident and dirty (in any way you want this to mean) and you want them, mostly because not only do you know, but everyone tells you that you shouldn't have them.  And in the end you grow up and move on (or most of us do) and no longer lust after the appeal of the deliciously forbidden.  Hey Eve wasn't the only one who didn't listen to reason!

    Second there are the nice guys.  These guys are walking doormats.  They are the stereotype.  They bring you flowers, which is nice, they pay for your date, which is nice, they talk about you, which is nice, and they never excite you.  This man is made to serve your every need and follow you around like a sad puppy! And he's boring.  You don't lust after him, and sex is about obligation.  He will provide for you, take care of you and bore you to tears.  There is no challenge with this guy.  There is no chase, or excitement or interest of any kind.  He makes all the things you found exciting about other men mundane.  Why?  Because he's got absolutely no edge!

    So far there have been extremes.  The guy that if you touch he's so edgy he'll cut you open and leave you to bleed, and the one so dull that you couldn't find the blade if you tried.  So what's left?

    The good guy!  What's this mythical creature you ask?  Well he's your perfect man, and yes they do exist.  In all shapes and sizes.  They are the Indiana Jones or Mufasa type of man.  He's sweet and nice.  He might bring you flowers or open the door.  He will treat you with respect.  But he is also strong and willful!  He will tell you what you're doing, instead of always asking.  He will not push, but will guide you as you walk with him.  He will lead on the dance floor and in the bedroom, but he's not selfish.  These guys aren't like Batman or Bond, they're not so bad that they leave you lonely and pining.  However, they're not like the 40-year old virgin or Luke Skywalker that you just want to put them out of their misery.  The good guys have an edge, they can cut you, but they choose not to.  These men are a sword that chooses to stay sheathed unless they see a reason for a fight.

    I think when it truly comes down to it most women want a good guy, or a good man.  They want strength and guidance, and someone who will take care of them.  But he will also listen and respect them and treat them well. 

    Do you think that these three types encompass most men fairly well?  If not, is there another type to look out for?  In your experience what type of guy do you think most girls go for?  If you're a girl, what type of guy would you go for?  If you're a guy what type do you think you are?

Comments (19)

  • methodElevated@xanga

    Don't be dissin' on Luke Skywalker.

  • unabridgedtales@xanga

    This is more accurate than simply 'good' and 'bad', but I think a gradient would be more accurate than groups.


    Then again, even a gradient is an oversimplification of the types of guys out there.

  • Emmijoy@xanga

    i've dated each of these types of guys. there was this one guy i thought i liked a whole lot. he was one of those bad guys..who is only bad because he is such a huge player. but i knew that going into it. and think that's why i went into it- for the challenge. then i realized how stupid that was. good guys win my vote for sure. :)

  • Cayllesth@xanga

    I'd add another type to the list. I once dated a guy who I wold classify as lazy. He certainly wasn't the bad boy or a nice guy. He didn't like trying in the relationship, didn't like doing anything romantic. Calling or trying to communicate was a hazzle for him, he thought he had it oh so hard, was always complaining and hated it when you tried telling him to get any work done or get a job and do school work. Basically he liked letting me do all the work in the relationship but he was also like this in ever other aspect of his life. Thank god that relationship didn't last very long.


    I prefer the good guy. He's nice but with edge. I'm currently with someone who fits that description. I woldn't trade him for the world.

  • Spyder_V@xanga

    I think you have put it into words pretty nicely. Most of the time, nice guys could easily become good guys by learning what to do to build that edge, that (healthy) tension between the girl and himself.

    Seriously, look at pick-up artists. A big group of them are nice guys that learned how to interact properly to be "edgy" but still maintain their "nice guy" inner self.

  • laytexduckie@xanga

    Alot of people tell me that girls for for assholes mainly because they are exciting. I'm a good guy. People tend to place me more into the nice guy category because I am really nice. But I tend to put my foot down when I need to and I like to take initiative for things to do together. I just still find it odd how my ex only spent 11 months with me whereas she spent 2 years with a guy before that treated her like crap and even cheated on her.

  • wyrdkismet@xanga

    hmmm... a guy who tells me what i should do but doesn't get upset if i'm independent-minded. he would care about me, but i don't want a pushover and i don't want someone so aggressive i don't get a say in anything.

  • TangMSU@xanga

    So in short, a good guy is a nice guy that is exciting and will challenge you.  Nice guys are "easy" and don't give the sense of passion in a relationship.


    Don't be a nice guy.


    Be a good guy.

  • salvatruca_stalking_havok13@xanga

    You forgot about "Nice Guys" AKA self entitled assholes in disguise.

    Personally, I don't believe all women go for bad guys. I just think that's what certain men tell themselves to make themselves feel better about their bad dating experiences. Women do it too with their "all men are assholes" speeches, but I feel people should stop blaming an entire gender for their dating foibles. Generalizations and stereotypes just hinder the dating process.

  • yukarimayhem@xanga

    haha yeh nice post, but i think this is all so generalised

  • feelslikejuly@xanga

    You gave a good post on the two different extremes guy types..I don't think all guys fall into the two extremes you mentioned.

  • x__dollyco@xanga

    whats the point?
    i mean... is it gonna help anything explaning to us the broad categories and we women are constantly look out for the "good guys" and not all men are "good guys"..?

  • wolvenchic@xanga

    Sometimes you dont know what kind of guy youve got til its too late.

  • mewithoutu77@xanga

    i don't necessarily think a bad guy dresses in an edgy way makes him bad. my ex, he was the asshole type but he didn't dress the part.  when you first me him, he looks like the boy next door, cute and so nice and then when you got to know him, he's a complete ass.  there's nothing wrong with that.  i cared about him and i still do, but just because they're nice doesn't always mean they're nice or vice versa.

  • AshleyCusato@xanga

    I crush on good guys,nice guys,and bad boys:D

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  • MiaJoyTheWriter@xanga

    Ah, the good guys are the ideal, aren't they? :) I found my good guy. Had a few nice guys, and no bad guys. But I saw my friends date bad guys. I will never get involved with one because of their experiences. Not even worth it.

  • Salivarysatisfaction

    I like the type of guy who has a penis.

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