Sunday, 18 October 2009
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Is He Leading Her On?
Is it fair to hang out with someone when you know that they have a crush on you?
I have a friend, let's call him James, and he's dating a wonderful girl who I've known since grade school, Mandy. They're totally crazy about each other, but she recently came to me and told me that one of his close friends (a girl we'll Meg) admitted to her that she has a crush on James. Since that revelation, Mandy is now uncomfortable with James spending time with Meg, knowing what she does about Meg's feelings towards her boyfriend.
James is by nature a very touchy-feely kind of guy, he gives hugs, leans on people, and makes flirty jokes all time time. Mandy however, is afraid that Meg is interpreting James' behavior in a different, as more of an "he's interested in me" type of behavior. Now, I know Meg better than Mandy does, and I know that while Meg wants James for herself, I'm not as trusting as Mandy is of her "totally innocent" intentions, and honestly wouldn't put it past her to try something while James is not around. James is utterly oblivious to all of this happening behind his back, but I am utterly positive that even if Meg tried something, he would shut her down fast. He's not the one in question here at all.
So what I'm asking is, do you think it's okay to spend time with someone you know has a crush on you, and treat them in a "more than friendly" way? Or would you want your significant other to spend time with someone who you know likes them, and who is not totally trustworthy?
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i do this sometimes. i always tell my boyfriend that i'm hanging out with them though, and i make it clear to the other party that i have a boyfriend and i have no intentions of changing that.
I wouldn't feel completely comfortable with it. I'd talk to my boyfriend about it, but in the end it's his decision who he wants to spend time with. I completely trust him :)
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I would never try leading them on, and I would feel insecure if he were flirtatious with other girls, just as much as he is around me.
Actually when I find out someone has a crush on me, I tend to avoid them. If I can't avoid them, I just maybe might not hug them or talk to them as much. It seems a bit mean I guess, but it makes me uncomfortable that anything might lead them on even though it's clear I'm not interested in anyone.
I'm sure that someone with a significant other would have a more complicated experience though what with the established romantic interest, but I feel that my lack of interest in relationships makes crushes think I'm playing hard to get or something. Hence, the avoidance.
I don't think it is appropriate for a guy and a girl to hang out together unless there are intentions to date. If the guy has a girlfriend, then it is really inappropriate for him to be hanging out on one one with another girl. Group settings are ok though.
No. My boyfriend and I try to hang out with friends of the same sex, and if we're hanging out with someone of the opposite sex alone we ask each other first. Plus, why can't he hang out with his female friends with me around? I can always invite him if I'm haning out with any guys. I trust him and he trusts me, but why put ourselves in situations where the other person would have a reason to question the other. Neither of us is particularly jealous, but we both are ok with these guidelines we've set up, so why wouldn't we act on them. To hang out alone with a person that is openly flirting with him, would go way past these guidelines, and the same for me, so better safe than sorry I guess.
If someone likes me more than a friend and I knew, I'll let him know where I stand so I won't "mislead" him. If my significant other was to "hang out" with someone who has a crush on him, I wouldn't be uncomfortable with the idea. I trust him. But then again, why would he hang out with one of his girlfriends alone? I never understand the concept of that.
Eh, this is a tricky situation. It depends how much the person likes you, whether you have a history with them and on the insecurity level of your boyfriend/girlfriend.
I hang out with girls who have boyfriends 1on1 from time-to-time (I'm male) - the thing is, if I'm attracted to the girl, it's up to her to initiate. In other words, even if I think she's the hottest thing in the world I will ignore it if she isn't single.
It worked fine until this past year (it's been a while but still) - I started hanging out with a friend who had a bf. She completely crossed the line in the way she touched me and let me touch her, and I don't care if you are male or female, what we did was completely not-platonic and completely 'buying signals'. Except when I tried to purchase the goods, she'd back off.
This continued incessantly, driving me crazy (I can't turn off being straight). Eventually after she became single, she kept hinting at wanting to 'talk about it' and I spun a story about wanting to date her when I had no intention of anything lasting a long time. She then gave me the let's just be friends speech. Thought that was the end of it but now I can't get rid of her -- we're roommates (this started when I moved in) and I've taken it personally that I was rejected. I've been rejected before, but you don't go as far as we did and not go all the way. If I pulled that sort of crap on a girl she'd never talk to me again.
I'm sure it's a great ego boost to have guys swoon over you, but you will lose friends this way. If you don't, those guys will not be guys you respect.
I would do my best to avoid the guy who has a crush on me.
If I had a boyfriend, and he was hanging out with a girl who clearly wanted more than friendship, I would probably tell her to back off myself. Of course, I would let my boyfriend confront the situation first, but if he failed to make it clear, I would do it myself. Friendships need boundaries if there is a boyfriend/girlfriend in the picture. No excuses.
I've done it while I was in a relationship. Feelings developed for the other guy (he already had them for me) and I made out with him. While it helped me realize I DID NOT have feeling for him, he unfortunately still wanted me. And wanted me more. And as I was packing my things to move out west with the love of my life, I realized that I was unintentionally leading the second guy on. I accidently gave him hope that I'd stay with him.
So your guy friend is probably not doing it on purpose, but I'm 100% confident that the girl will have her hopes up every single time she and he are together.
@A_Monster@xanga - that's ridiculous. One of my best friends is a guy, and he's become like a brother to me. We hang out alone all the time.
As for the post in question, one of my other best friends is in love with a guy who is dating someone else. It makes things awkward sometimes, but she would never make a move on him. However, sometimes I don't trust him not to take advantage of her.
I don't think you can make a blanket statement about this question. You have to look at the people involved and gauge who's likely to try to seduce someone, and who's willing to be seduced/too weak to resist. Vanillesence is right, though, friendships do need boundaries if a significant other is in the picture (and sometimes even if one is not in the picture).
And if I were the person who was writing this blog, I might give Mandy a hint that Meg isn't all sweetness and innocence. However, if James isn't the type to cheat, then there's really nothing to worry about.
The guys who crush on me know very well that I've got a boyfriend, and I make sure I remind them so that they don't forget that I'm happily in a relationship.
As for my boyfriend, I trust that he won't do anything with the girls who like him, but I definitely don't trust them. We girls can be stupid in this, really.
I think there's no problem whatesoever. As long as James is as cool as you think.
I don't really stress on it. Obviously, I'll let someone know that I'm taken or I don't swing that way (I'm not straight). I wouldn't exactly be with my SO if I didn't trust them well enough.
I would not spend time with someone whom I knew liked me, unless completely unavoidable. I would expect my boyfriend to do the same.
I kinda don't believe it when people say they "can't help" flirting, and chalk it up more to a lack of self-control. Sometimes people just like getting attention, even if they're not interested, they may respond to the flirting to keep it up. I don't think that's right.
if I know someone has a crush on me when I'm already in a relationship, I'm going to ignore that person if he tries to flirt with me and hopefully, he'll get a clue by seeing that I'm not giving him the time of day and back off. I hope my significant other does the same and doesn't give his crush any mixed signals or hope that she can take him away from me.
He is interested in Mandy, at some level to some degree. Perhaps he's not interested in a meaningful relationship, or even any relationship at all, but psychologically his behaviour isn't just some random spontaneous phenomenon. There's a reason he flirts, and makes physical contact. It satisfies him in some way, and whether he knows how destructive this all can be, I can't say for certain [even though you state that he is oblivious, statistically this very often is not the case].
Regardless, the boundaries of the situation depends on what is understood and mutually agreed upon between Mandy and James.Ignorance should not be an acceptable excuse in relationships where communication is open and honest. He should be aware of how threatened Mandy feels because she should tell him directly. He should also consider how his actions towards people of the opposite sex might impact on his relationship.
@salvatruca_stalking_havok13@xanga - even though this is the typical response for most guys, i don't think you guys realize how much it hurts the girl once you drop her from your life. i feel like it's a cowardly way of approaching the situation. instead the guy could just say "i'm sorry but i'm not into you" , instead of pretending that she doesn't exist/ avoiding her. :/
@A_Monster@xanga - You and I could never date.
@A_Monster@xanga - @flyfox65@xanga - Personally, I think it's a perfectly respectable wish to not have your SO hang out alone with someone of the opposite sex, except in certain cases where it's a mutual friend or something.
It's not like he'd have to leave a party because everyone but Sally left the room and, "Uh...sorry, my girlfriend says I'm not allowed to be in the same room as a girl alone, so I gotta go." It's just saying that he couldn't call Sally up on a Saturday night to see what she was doing and come over to her place to watch movies together.
No, I HATE to be lead on. This happened in high school for me. I knew this guy for three years and developed real feelings for him. I'm not exactly sure if he knew that I liked him, because guys are oblivious despite all the hints i gave him. Half of me would tell myself that he didn't like me as more than a friend, while the denial made me think that he might have liked me as more. So I still hung out with him, and we would joke around and stuff. If he'd just told me outright that he didn't like me like that, I could've squashed that little hope and moved on. But instead, for three years, I idiotically hung on to the dream. Not blaming him here, it was all me, but still, it is wrong to hang out with someone in such a manner as the guy in your post and in the situation you described.
@chibi_totoro@xanga - Actually, I am a girl. (._. )
I tend to do what I do because I'm both aromantic and asexual so by default I don't want to be with anyone; however, some people don't get the message and insist on annoying me. The only solution is avoidance, but I do realize how it can be insensitive. So, I'm being a coward because I value my comfort so much not because I'm deliberately being mean.
I wouldn't be comfortable with my girlfriend working with someone that I know likes her. It's not that I don't trust her or I don't have any confidence in her, but I just don't like the idea of her working with someone that has intensions with her.... I don't like the idea that if somehow she accidently wears a clothing that has error and has a spot revealing a spot on her body, the guys going to be starring at it all day... I just don't like the idea that if the guy will take every advantage he can, to get her like him back...
I'm not innocent of such convictions myself... I know that it's wrong, but sometimes it's hard to not make a move on a girl/person that has great qualities....
it is never ok to lead someone on when you don't feel the same. that is just plain cruel. ppl who do that simply like the attention.