Tuesday, 06 October 2009
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Would You Revoke My "Man Card"?
Here are some comments, please be the judge of how stagnant (and stupid) some men are:
Ummm if I were judging you based on your gender, race, age, etc. etc. that would be prejudice. Judging you based on the terrible terrible decisions you make is just judging. And I judge you to be ball-less for watching Gossip Girls. ...why wouldn't you see every chick flick that has a hot chick in it? They are called chick flicks for a reason. Because they are made for chicks and men revile at the inanity of the plot, dialogue, etc. etc.
(He also stated my "man card" should be revoked, hah)
This comment was made by nprospect
Forget simply revoking his mancard, just give him his very own womancard. He'll get more use out of it, I'm sure.Sorry, Lil_Dude, nprospect's logic is flawless here. Is Jessica Alba smoking hot? Absolutely. Would I watch Into the Blue... never. Just because there are hot chicks in a movie/tv show, does not make it automatically OK for a man to watch it. I have a feeling you're just trying to think of some masculine way to justify your horribly, awful feminine tendencies to trick yourself into thinking you still deserve a pair of manjewels between your legs. Don't worry, with technology and medicine improving like they are, I'm sure it would only take a few years to save up for the operation. Then you can wear all the skirts you want and not have to worry about tucking it back...
This comment was made by mcmeister89
Based on my decision to watch and actually enjoy Gossip Girl, these were the remarks I have received. Not only are they shallow, illogical and completely idiotic, I think this is why guys (some) are incompetent in the eyes of the female population.
No, I'm not going to be an asshole and stereotype every single guy out there like they did with me, but I will say that it's wrong for them to place guys into a specific category (e.g. Can't be watching a "chick flick"). Every human being is different.
Is this how we want the world to be? Is this how we want our children to grow up? In a world where older, more "mature" adults will say these discriminative, hurtful comments to? That every single person with a penis has to smell bad, drink beer, watch porn and be rude?
You be the judge. Are guys being called idiots because of these minorities that try to represent us as a whole? What do you think?
FYI, I'm a heterosexual male who watched Gossip Girl partially because my ex-girlfriend convinced me to.
Does your boyfriend actually enjoy shows like Gossip Girl and chick flicks? Do you appreciate them more or less for it?
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I feel like this post is more suited for Mancouch. But no, my boyfriend doesn't watch Gossip Girl, or any shows of that sort. I'm glad he doesn't, 'cause I don't watch that crap either.
On a side note, I hate gender roles. Why can't people watch whatever they want without being called girly or less manly or whatever?
Definitely more Mancouch material. Also I watch some Chick Flicks just because they want to. Some of them are pretty nice. However I never got into Gossip Girls and whatnot, they all seem pretty crappy to me. In fact I don't watch American TV Shows at all.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I watch Asian Dramas, not just the fighting based ones with martial arts and whatnot
People should be who they want to be without being stripped of their identity because they don't fit into our neat little categories or conform to our stereotypical beliefs. If you identify as a man, you are a man and watching Gossip Girl does not diminish that. I identify as a woman and am a woman even though I don't watch Gossip Girl. Gender roles are stupid. Be who you want to be without being afraid of being outside the "male" or "female" box.
@salvatruca_stalking_havok13@xanga - Dude, right on. Just letting you know that you rock. :)
@AznFier@xanga - you and me both, I cant stand American TV, the only thing I watch on TV is basketball and football games.
I watch chick flicks, and Asian dramas. I have no shame in it. I'm not gay, and I dont have to prove it to anyone that I'm not. For one, their storylines can be very captivating, and much more intellectual than most other movies and shows out there. Some Asian dramas go to an extreme, and those I cant stand. I watch things for substance rather than mere pleasure.
So to the OP, why do you care what other people think? You are probably just a more well rounded male than the others that are so closed minded. Regardless, you will always find discrimination. Watch what you feel like watching, and be done with it.
I can't say it's a terrible show because I've never watched it, simply because it sounds like the most retarded thing ever known to man.
I can say it doesn't make you gay or not a man. But what kind of reaction could you be looking for when telling all of Xanga that you watch gossip girls?
It's a tv show. Not your life.
This was a big enough deal to have to write about it? o_O Revoking mancards is just a joke, a bit of teasing. I don't get why anyone would take those comments seriously unless he had doubts about his sexuality. Clearly everyone knows not all guys are freakishly macho - you will always have the boys who spend an hour on their hair every morning and who manicure their nails.
and honestly, if a boy is going to do things like watch Gossip Girl, fix his hair every hour, and take flattering pictures of himself in various poses, he should expect to be called girly and less masculine from time to time because well...face it, it's true. The average guy doesn't watch Gossip Girl and do his nails; the average girl is more likely to.
every person is different, i don't see why its a problem for a guy to watch gossip girl or chick flicks.
a man who watches gossip girl should be less concerned about his masculinity, and more concerned with the fact that he's wasting precious minutes of his life on cheap meaningless drivel. tv blows, read a fuckin book.
Whoa! Yeah...I do not agree to stereotyping people based on gender, ethnicity, etc. It seems as though our society has passed these stereotypes down as part of culture and it is really hard to extinguish it, especially if everyone does it. I don't think that a man is any less a man if he watches "chick flicks." Likewise, a woman is still a woman even when she plays basketball. These are supposed to be considered interests or hobbies that people enjoy, but society has blown this all out of proportion. You brought up an interesting topic because we were just discussing gender roles/ideologies in our culture class and there is actually a shift in these roles. Due to the recession, males are losing their jobs and forced to become house husbands until they can find a job. Some women feel stressed out by this because they now carry the burden of supporting the family, while other women finds it alright because family should support each other during times of needs. I've also read a post some time ago that said a girl's bf was upset b/c she got promoted and will be making more money than her. So, what we really see is that, stereotyping is a problem and not only does the individual have to change, but the cultural expectation of how men/women should act needs to change as well.
Look man, it's really up to you whether you watch Gossip Girl or chick flicks.
And if you're asking if thats okay to do, then yeah, it is. I'm not going to dispute that. You can watch/do whatever the heck you want.
But if you're not ready to get your "mancard" revoked by the general manly public, then don't post stuff saying you like to watch Gossip Girl.
The world is ignorant and screwed up, along with it's compliment of screwed up individuals. No news there.
So sack up, and don't post crap about you liking girly stuff if you can't take the heat.
Should I get my femalecard revoked because I watch Dragonball Z and Kung Fu movies instead of girly crap?
Gender roles are just stupid. You watch what you like, you're still a man if that mushroom between your legs gives you any indication.
- Kunoichi
The only time I revoke a mancard is when the man let's stranger's opinions matter to him, or when he has gender reassignment surgery. Your mancard status is pending, awaiting confirmation if this was in done humor or serious a question.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a man being smelly, drinking beer, watching porn, and being rude. It doesn't make them idiots or whatever name you want to call them. Watching chick flicks, on the other hand, is a man card offense. You are penalized 10 man-points for each chick flick you have seen. It does not make you a better/more intelligent/higher human being so you get -5 points for being a pretentious douche.
My husband enjoys GG with me. And we're about to have a baby, so I'd definately say he has balls. Watching and enjoying a show marketed for women does not make you feminine. My husband HATES Sex in the City ( I know lot of guys who like it), but likes 90210 (sometimes) and Gossip Girl. Sometimes I can even get him to watch America's Next Top Model with me. Its all about personal taste, not whether or not a man is manly. He's very straight, so I just do not see how guys would try to label him a fag or whatever all because of a show. Its just stupidity. Nothing at all wrong with a man liking his shows. Jason Mewes (Of Jay and Silent Bob fame) is a straight guy who happens to love Charmed. So come on men, buck up and realize the world does not revolve around balls.
Not gonna lie... i dont really see a whole lot of relavence as to why this is on datingish.
And as for the perceptions, teachings and stereotypes of men and whatever subcultures of men...
Listen we need people to drink beer, smell bad and watch porn. They are called our mechanics, construction workers and general grunts. You typically dont see a guy changing out a transmission just to go home and put on a nice pair of Armani's ... And, honestly, i fail to see anything horribly wrong with smelling bad, watching porn and drinking beer (aside from the general hygene side of things)
Personally i plan on teaching my boy to be as manly and as grimey as he wants to be... but I aslo plan on teaching him the value of choices and consequences... but really, thats neither here nor there.
And about the man card revoking? I think you are more subject to revoke just by having to ask that question. It shows the lack of backbone. So what.. you watch gossip girls.. who fucking cares? A good solid card holder will always be impervious to petty slams against their ego... A propper man card holder's ego and dignity and integrity should always be in tact no matter what the surrounding.
@Kateycatastrophe@xanga - of course Jason Mewes likes charmed. It features alyssa milano.... aka former softcore porn actress ... who is still hot (in most's oppinion) ...
I don't think anyone should watch Gossip Girl.
you sound like someone i know. but for other guys to chastise you for watching girly things is only natural. even i can't watch gossip girl.
@HiroBoi@xanga - I was awaiting for these types of comments, but I posted this in light of it. I just wanted to make this post cause
a) I was bored
b) I needed something to write about
c) It's an issue not to me, but possibly other people. It goes into stereotyping and all that crap I hate which they don't have a specific "-ish" site for.
@coolmonkey@xanga - It does make them idiots to begin categorizing.
However insignificant you make think the internet is, there is probably a grain of truth in what you type. I was prepared for those kinds of nasty comments but wrote this post because of the ISSUE surrounding his comments, not cause I was hurt.
Pfft, it's a 30-40 year old without a life on the internet posting me nasty comments. Like I care about THAT.
@xsimplepleasuresx@xanga - Do I get my mancard cause I wrote this post for the issue, not cause I was hurt? :)
If it helps - I wasn't even phased at all by these comments, in fact, I was awaiting them. It helped me address this stereotyping shit with a face to put on.
What the fuck is a mancard?
You have a penis and a pair of balls.
You're a man. End of story. Screw everyone else dude.
As for Gossip Girl, cant say I've watched it or any other "chick flic", but if my gf forced me to, then yeah I would. That doesn't make me any less of a man.
@TheDoubleDeuces@xanga - Actually I don't know why it's on Datingish either...maybe they read my comment about boycotting/deleting myself from Mancouch's list. :D
But actually, I wrote this post not cause I was hurt and felt I needed to prove something with my masculinity. I have a girlfriend for that ;)
I wrote it for the issues surrounding the stagnant views on men and how categorizing someone based on the fact that they don't follow the stereotype of a guy. Thanks to their comments I've got a face to put for men who think other men have to be "manly".
@Dustin_wind@xanga - TBH, I don't know what it is either xD.