Wednesday, 09 September 2009

  • Double Standards and Promiscuity

    Have you ever heard Christina Aguilera's song, "Can't Hold Us Down"? I'm not posting the lyrics on here, but basically she wonders why guys call girls names just for stating their opinion and doing the same thing that guys do, especially when it comes to being promiscuous. So I'm just wondering, why is that? Why is it okay for guys to have multiple partners and it's even encouraged among friends, but not okay for girls to have multiple partners? If a girl decides to stay a virgin until marriage, shouldn't she expect her future husband to do the same? Is it more attractive if the guy's not a virgin and way more experienced?

    Also, why is it not okay for girls to state their opinions? Are girls more attractive if they didn't always speak their mind?  

Comments (50)

  • utoppia@xanga

    no way! you know the saying "Cook in the kitchen, Lady in the dining room and a whore in bed" You can't get that if she's never had any experience and watching porn just doesn't make the cut...

  • TequilaKisses@xanga

    Only if the guys are into the submissive type, or... bondage... sexually of course.

  • sarahzthoughts@xanga

    I personally think that the guys who are more outspoken about wanting to wait until marriage are the ones who are more likely to have girlfriends than the self-proclaimed "man whores." I know so many girls who "put out" because they think that's what the guy expects, and if they refuse, then they'll end up alone. I know girls can be just as promiscuous as guys and not have any problem with it, but I would rather date the guy who wants to wait than the guy who brags about his experience.

  • Correct_The_Defect@xanga

    I think it all goes back to the old way of thinking. Women were basically just there to cook, clean, have children. If a husband cheated on them they wouldn't make a fuss about it. Women were supposed to be "seen not heard".


    It's rather old fashioned to think that. I mean women can do everything men can and then some (since men can't have children).


    Hopefully don't date a douchebag that thinks that way.


    But on to the sex part:


    I think ANYONE man or woman who sleeps around is a whore. I don't really believe in waiting until marriage but I don't think you should "go around the block" as well.


    Sex is special and personal so it should only be shared with people who are special to you. Doesn't mean you have to marry that person. As long as you care for them it has meaning.


    Meaningless in the moment sex is stupid. It just makes you feel gross afterwards...that's if you have any feelings.

  • jasonwl@xanga

    There are no promiscuous men.  Just keep that in your head.  If you're a sweet girl who chose to wait.  You're definitely worth any man waiting until he finds you.  Just as long as there aren't other conflicting values that can't be resolved, :).

  • jasonwl@xanga

    @Correct_The_Defect@xanga - I don't feel it has meaning unless the bond is strong enough that as far as emotions go, you are married.  Otherwise, at best, you're just close friends, and it's still gross.

  • wenguang@xanga

    personally, I don't like the idea of go whoring around; let along my future kids mother doing that kind of stuffs!

    @yuk_lui@xanga - how many partners have you had?

  • MissPixieGlitter@xanga

    i don't agree with double standards.

  • sumtymesiwonder@xanga

    i don't believe in that standard anymore. when i was younger, i did think a guy was more attractive (in general, and not just by physical standards.) if he wasn't a virgin. i don't know why i thought this...but that was high school, and it seemed expected to think that way.

    however it seems the rules have changed in college. if a guy is still a virgin by the end of four years at college, he's usually considered a loser or something along those lines. the rule for girls seems unclear still.

    as for me, personally, i've had more partners than my boyfriend has. my opinion on sex differs from most females. i think having sex with whoever you want, as often as you want, with as many different people as you want is fine. it's also your business. i used to think those kinds of girls were sluts or whores, but from personal experience i've realized that sometimes girls do those things because they/we were looking for sex to fill some other need. (usually girls with some daddy issues, like myself.) so i don't judge anymore. as long as they aren't stealing boyfriends away or anything like that, and i would hope that they are being safe.

    i also speak my mind, for the most part. but if someone says something i don't agree with, i will probably let them know, especially those close to me. a lot of my close friends know the majority of my sexual history, and they don't think any less of me because they took the time to hear why i slept with who i did and all that. i admit i made some mistakes, but i learned from them if nothing else. i've had a few one-night stands. and it seems that guys are only more attracted to me because i don't tend to censor myself.

    sex is a natural thing. it is how our species survives. true, there are plenty of ways to keep this from happening, but sex is also a really important aspect of marriage (which most people want at some point in their lives.) sex isn't a big deal until someone isn't satisfied. then it consumes multiple aspects of the relationship. whoever i end up settling down with, i need to know that they can satisfy me. no matter how good other aspects of my relationship may be, sex is important. i want to enjoy it. it's fun, and it's good for you. and it really can bring a new level of intamcy between partners.

    as for virgin guys...i've had enough bad or mediocre sexual experiences. as far as i know, none of them were virgins, but i'm not sure how honest they were with numbers or anything, and yes, i do ask. i don't care so much about numbers, but i wouldn't want a virgin. i want good sex if i deem the guy worthy of my time.

    i disagree with the majority of society who thinks girls should be prudes, or close to it, until marriage. ultimately is the individual's opinion and not really anyone elses concern (unless they're sleeping with your bf/gf, then it is your business.) no matter how "slutty" i think someone is, the fact is i don't know their history. i don't know what happened to them. i can't say shit about it. and i expect the same thinking when it comes to me. you don't know what i've been through or what has happened in my life. like strippers and prostitutes, most people consider them dirty or nasty or say they don't respect themselves. but you don't know why they're doing that job. sometimes you need to do whatever you can to make ends meet, and those jobs can pay quite well. i have no desire to do either of those things, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and sometimes that's all someone can do that puts food on the table and bills in mail on time.

    people should really just mind their own business, and get off their high horses before they just start judging everyone around them.

  • JennyGee@xanga

    i'm waiting till marriage, and i'd like a guy that's doing the same!  my ex had a number of partners and wanted me to see that as a "learning experience" for him, as opposed to cheating on me.  i appreciated his experiences, but it was hard to accept.  i'd rather have someone with the same values

  • ShimmerBodyCream@xanga

    How about everyone stops being slut bags and spreading diseases.

  • supaflychikn@xanga

    i really don't think there's anything wrong with sleeping around as long as you're not in a relationship. it's not spreading diseases if you're being safe about it. why should anyone have the right to judge you on such a personal matter? if your "no sex before marriage" standards come from religion then that's one thing, but beyond that, why is there any moral obligation to have as few partners as possible? if you're not hurting anybody in the process, there should be nothing wrong with having sex with whoever you want.

  • wyrdkismet@xanga

    @utoppia@xanga - hey, thanks for being the first to comment! i like the quote, i've heard something similar to that along the lines of, "be a lamb in the kitchen, but a tiger in the bedroom."


    @RoastedMarshmallow@xanga - lol, i got a kick out of that. thanks for reading my post!


    @sarahzthoughts@xanga - good point. i'll keep that in mind. yeah, ppl who wait always make me feel good haha. thanks for commenting!


    @Correct_The_Defect@xanga - yeah, these questions are outdated a bit. thanks for dropping by!


    @jasonwl@xanga - hmmmm, not sure i agree with you about men. but i do agree with you about sweet girls being worthy of men who wait. "good things come to those who wait." thanks for sharing your opinion!


    @wenguang@xanga - good point! thanks for sharing :)


    @MissPixieGlitter@xanga - so you're saying it's not ok for guys to get away with stuff and girls can't? thanks for dropping by!


    @sumtymesiwonder@xanga - wow, thanks for sharing your opinion! i see your point and i agree with most of it, but it turns me off when i meet someone promiscuous.


    @JennyGee@xanga - good for you! thanks for commenting!

  • Nerevar_The_Incarnate@xanga

    As a guy, I'm extremely tired of hearing aboot this. -.-

    I'd like to meet the people who are perpetuating such dated ideas, 'cos it's getting ridiculous. Specifically"

    "guys call girls names just for stating their opinion and doing the same
    thing that guys do, especially when it comes to being promiscuous"

    In my experience, pretty much the only people I've ever heard calling women whores, sluts, trashy etc... were other women. Sometimes this sort of thing is friendly name-calling, but at other times it just seems to be an unconditional insult (by that I mean that a chick doesn't seem to need to act slutty to be called a slut, all she has to do is piss some other chick off... but I'm digressing)

    Even among men who bang promiscuously, I've never heard of calling a woman a whore for doing the same thing they are. Such accusations seem to come from other sources(media, perhaps?) rather than individual relationships.

    Catch my drift?

  • utoppia@xanga
  • eatdrinkandbemaryy@xanga

    i'm still trying to wrap my head around this double standard.

  • salvatruca_stalking_havok13@xanga

    This double standard stems from the times in which women were only considered "true women" if they were pure and reserved in their opinions. These notions are still hard to shake off even in the modern day as much as some people would like to deny that such double standards exist. I believe people's sex lives are none of our business, so we shouldn't judge anyone for their choices. Also, women should be allowed to speak their minds. We have thoughts and opinions too after all; however, this sadly isn't so as women are still being judged based on obsolete guidelines of femininity. 

  • Parsimony@xanga

    Regardless of the gender debate, I think everyone should be allowed to have a time of experimentation whether with one or several partners unless their values and faith reflect otherwise.   However one should be discriminate.  It's also a matter of finding the right fit in all aspects.  Nevertheless, people will eventually realize the value of a monogamous and fulfilling emotional relationship. 

  • jasonwl@xanga

    @ShimmerBodyCream@xanga - Hahaha, agreed.  Some people are just too closed minded to see what's wrong with it; and why it's worth more to avoid at all costs.

    @supaflychikn@xanga - A moral is a lesson learned [or to learn] from a [possible] mistake; not simply an obligation to do what's right, but also why.  There are risks people overlook.  When you get the reasoning behind a moral, you will understand it better.

    @MissPixieGlitter@xanga - Neither do I.  Just avoid discussions about morals or values with those who disagree, unless you can reason with them. :)

    @wyrdkismet@xanga - I meant there are none who have both a deep unfoolish heart and an intelligent thorough thinking mind.  A bold good man may do a lot of seemingly foolish things to win over a woman's heart.  But he's in no hurry to get to bed with her.

  • RazorBladeParade@xanga

    I find that girls complain about this and then perpetuate it.

  • wyrdkismet@xanga
  • prettyboy78@xanga

    I don't like double standards about anything. I also don't like sluts, male or female. Men need to learn that it isn't okay for them to sleazy sluts sleeping with whichever girl will go to bed with them. But guess what, guys couldn't be sleazy with out females willing to go to bed with these jerks.
    Being a woman I am hugely embarrassed by how woman act now. They think it's okay to go out and sleep with as many people as they want, of both sexes, because although many aren't BI they think having sex with woman is cute. I only respect REAL gay, lesbian and BI people, those who do it for attention need to stop. These woman have a parade of different men (and woman) through their beds and use the excuse "I like sex, I'm not a slut"
    There is a difference between liking sex and being a slut. You can love sex, and have lots of it with one partner. And a slut, to me, is anyone who sleeps with lots of people, who treats themselves like sex is ALL they have to offer another person.
    Woman really need to stop being an embarrassment.
    And stop blaming your sluttiness on your drinking, if drinking makes you slutty, stop drinking!

  • bassxboy195@xanga

    Because some men think they are better then women and try to make women feel inferior to men. Take note that I did say some and not all.

  • happyobligations@xanga

    Guys are chided if they lose their virginities early. Girls are applauded if they lose it late or not until marriage. Oh, the pesky double standard!

  • supaflychikn@xanga

    @jasonwl@xanga - there are plenty of morals that people have and i completely understand the reasoning behind them. it doesn't necessarily mean i follow the same beliefs. morality is completely subjective.

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