Tuesday, 11 August 2009
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Friends of The Opposite Sex - What's Okay And What Isn't
Note: For the sake of avoiding annoying pronoun confusion, I'm going to write this as if it's about a straight male, his long-term girlfriend, and his female friends. Feel free to change it to girl/boyfriend/guy friends, girl/girlfriend/gal friends, husband/wife/female friends, guy/boyfriend/guy friends, etc.--the principle is the same.-- When you're single, you might have a wide variety of opposite sex friends, ranging from the purely platonic "she's like my sister" friend to the infamous "friend with benefits". Once you're in a serious, committed relationship though, I believe that the nature of your opposite-sex friendships should also change. This is how I view some of the more common opposite-sex relationships.
Acceptable - The underlining theme in acceptable opposite-sex friendships is that your girlfriend is positively involved to some extent, and there are no romantic feelings (requited or otherwise) between you and the friend in question.
1. The mutual friend. This girl either was already friends with both you and your girlfriend before you started dating, or became friends with both of you. In any case, she is as close or nearly as close to your girlfriend as she is to you.
2a. The friendly acquaintance, version 1. You've introduced her to your girlfriend, and they get along pretty well even if they didn't really click enough to become friends.
2b. The friendly acquaintance, version 2. Due to circumstances out of your control (e.g. LDRs), this girl has never actually met your girlfriend face to face. However, they both know a lot about each other (thanks to conversations they each have with you, hint hint) and have no objections.
Borderline --These are usually relationships in the midst of transitioning into acceptable or unacceptable friendships. They're a little discomfiting to your girlfriend, but not so much that you can't work on them to make them acceptable; however, they will probably slide into the unacceptable category if you don't address any problems early on.
1. She's got a crush on you. You look at her as a sister and couldn't imagine ever seeing her otherwise, but she has a little bit of a crush on you and it shows. If you lead her on, this could easily become a real issue for you and your girlfriend. However, if you make it super clear that your girlfriend is here to stay, hopefully you can nip this crush in the bud and go back to an easy platonic friendship.
2a. The ex --from a friendly, mutual breakup. You tried dating but it didn't work, so you both agreed to go back to just friends with no lingering feelings on either of your parts. Your girlfriend's uncomfortable at first because it's your ex, but introduce them and make sure they know about their respective roles in your life. If they hit it off, you're all set; even if they don't, you should be able to bring this to friendly acquaintance level without too much trouble.
2b. The ex --that you dumped. You like her enough as a person that you wanted to stay friends even after you ended things romantically, but she still wants you back. I'd back off on this one --no need to cut ties altogether, but definitely avoid the long midnight chats and hanging out with just the two of you. When/if the ex gets over you and accepts your girlfriend's place in your life, you can try to start over as friends.
Unacceptable --The main thing here is that your girlfriend isn't involved in any of these friendships, unless it's in a negative manner. Maintaining these relationships is incredibly disrespectful to your girlfriend. Some can be salvaged into more acceptable friendships, but others just need to be dropped.
1. The ex --that you want back. This really should be obvious, so I'll be brief --if you still want her back, you shouldn't even be with your current girlfriend. End of story.
2a. Girlfriend? What girlfriend? Every close friend you have, regardless of gender, should know that you have a girlfriend. You don't have to blather on and on about it or swear off singular pronouns for the rest of your life, but friends generally know the important parts of your life. Your girlfriend is presumably an important part of your life, so why does this friend not know that she exists? Fortunately, this is easily remedied.
2b. Gal pal? What gal pal? Conversely, your friends are presumably an important part of your life as well, so your girlfriend should at least vaguely know about all of your friends even if she doesn't become buddies with them. Friends that you deliberately hide from your girlfriend are rather suspicious --why are you hiding them? Again, this is an easy one to fix.
3. She doesn't like your girlfriend ...and makes no attempt to get along with her. If you're serious about your girlfriend, you should be willing to defend her, even/especially to your friends. True, your significant other should never force you to choose between her or your friends --but your true friends will never force you to make that choice either, and that's what this gal pal is doing. You can work on this for awhile, but at some point, you're going to have to put your girlfriend's feelings before this girl.
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To sum up, the most important thing is that your SO and your friends know about and get along with each other. I don't want you to think that you should bring a list of all your friends for your girlfriend to check off/approve, since that would be too controlling and definitely unhealthy. Instead, most of your friends should ease into the acceptable category quite naturally when you're serious about someone; if they don't, maybe it's time to rethink either your friendships or your relationship.
What do you think about opposite-sex friends? Do you agree or disagree?
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Comments (65)
I don't put labels on my friends, like, "hey, Chelsea. Remember this girl? She's the ex." If you're my friend, then you're my friend, end of story.
but what one of these girls has the cutest panties???? Â lol
This is quite comprehensive, but I never label those things since I'm oblivious over their feelings (and my own feelings too).
TOTALLY Agree.
I've been in a relationship for almost nine months and all but two of my friends are guys. Mostly they are his friends too but there are a few who he knew before me but didn't really click with. Those are the ones who hang out with me because i think they have a little crush. It's okay because I let them know that I'm in a serious relationship but when we all hang out together my bf kisses me alot in front of them to mark his territory. I don't think he has a problem with it because i would never like them romantically but I probably wouldn't be okay with him doing the same thing.
Hold on a second,
As an exgirlfriend, and his best female friend (I say it that way because I know there is only one before me, and he is a he) I hate to say this, but that last one about your girl-friend not liking your girlfriend may be a little off.
Any and every guy knows that it's bros before hos, and I'm sorry, just because I'm not a bro doesn't mean I don't hold that position in his life.
A guy doesn't ditch his best male friend just because he can't stand his girl, why should he ditch his best female friend? If it's really that much of a problem, he doesn't have to be around them both at the same time, and the two just need to suck it up and realize, you can't like everybody.
@Dare2BDiferentt@xanga - but your friends have different characteristics, some of which may or may not be harmful in a relationship, is the point that's being made here.
i agree with this, very much. i can't stand it when i'm with a guy and his exes hang around or his friends who are girls are constantly hugging him and hanging on him.
My boyfriend has this one female friend who hates me and badmouths me...is it reasonable for me to do anything about it?
@soyeahthatswhathappened@xanga - I don't see where any of my female friends have or will become an interference in my relationship, but then again, I don't have all these different types of friends mentioned, like you just said. Most of them are just the sisterly type.
@bmrowland@xanga - Key word here is "long term". I completely agree with you that when you first start dating and before you're serious, it's definitely friends before girlfriend. But when you're at the point where you're considering marriage, the significant other comes before the friend --a good friend at that point would at least try to get along with and/or be polite to the SO, even if he/she didn't actually like them. Agree/disagree?
My best friends didn't like my ex. They never made it uncomfortable for him though. The reason why they didn't like him was because he was totally wrong for me, and they were right.
I could see cutting off ties with an acquaintance or an extremely rude friends for an SO, but a best friend who's been there since day 1 and seen your good and bad? Your friends will be there no matter what. Your girl/boyfriend? Who knows?
@Dare2BDiferentt@xanga - well i don't know your friends or their personalities, so i won't judge.
why not just pool everyone together and have an orgy? then, afterwards, we are all lovers. no need for all the complicated labels.
Pretty much agreed.
@bmrowland@xanga - I agree with you mostly. Only thing that I'd add is, it's fine if your friend doesn't like your new SO/bf/gf, as long as they aren't bad-mouthing them. Because once it gets serious, then there's a line that's drawn, and if you cross it, that's when you put your girlfriend/boyfriend/SO before your friends. They don't ALWAYS come first.
@InTheThin@xanga - you should let him know that you don't appreciate her bad-mouthing you, or you could go to her, as to not put him in the middle. But if you guys are serious, then he should definitely be standing up for you.
Good categorizing, but what happened to FWB? Was that just too obvious to explain/put on the spectrum?
I think you summed this up pretty well.
yep, the pic is about right.
Nicely written. :)
Pretty spot on.
I like your views on this, it's pretty good.
My boyfriend has a few friends that are girls. Some of them are very nice to me and I consider "mutual friends" in your category. Then there is one of his friends that is a girl that I just consider a crazy jealous sleazy b!tch that absolutely hates me because I took away her friend. There was no "sexual attraction" this girl just likes having single guy friends only so she can hang out with them. I don't like my boyfriend hanging around her because of the way she treats me. All his other lady friends, I'm okay with!
On the last one, this is a non-issue to me, If a girlfriend doesn't accept my female friends as being an important part of my life, there is no chance in hell she and I are going to get serious. You have to ask yourself, do I value the person that has been a part of my life for years and will always be there for me, or a girlfriend that hasn't been in my life nearly as long, might love me now, but in the future, who knows. Friendships don't need to change if they are truely friends. If someone is in a true, loving, committed relationship, there is no need to question their SO's friends. It sounds more like insecurity here to me.
Thanks for this article... most of my boyfriend's friends are girls and sometimes it is a PIA cuz he has led some one and some had a crush on him. He was also friends with exes early on in our relationship and even friends with an ex-friend of mine (who tried to get him to pick her side. That was somewhat of a battle!)
But it is hard when sometimes my boyfriend has a new friend that is a girl that I don't know... and it happens often. Should I be insecure about that? How do I get over that? Message me on this one.