Saturday, 01 August 2009

  • Breaking Up Isn't the Only Solution

    I've been on Xanga for almost two months now. Not that long for most of you, especially the "True" members. I'm a loyal subscriber to Datingish. I love reading its posts, and I enjoy giving out my comments. But the thing that sometimes annoys me is when someone posts an issue about his/her relationship, and most of the Xangans will suggest to simply break off the relationship just like that, as if it isn't worth trying to stick around and fix it.
       
    For example, a relationship of four years must have a solid reason why it has been four years and not just two months. If a problem comes in the middle of the fourth year, it doesn't mean that the time has come for the couple to move on with their lives separately. "Get out while you can." "Break up with him, because he doesn't respect you or love you if he doesn't change." "Why are you still with him?" Almost 8 out of 10 comments are like those listed above.

    Fact: People do change. People can change.
     

    But how do we change others, from bad to better or from better to the best? That's the question the authors of the posts need answers to.
    A "breakup" is a painful word in a relationship. It's one of the hardest phase one could ever experienced. I once had a major breakdown in my relationship with my boyfriend. We were like an inch close to the break up zone. Some friends (the type who were like: I don't give a shit about your problem, but I just want to give a quick response so I can act like I'm concerned) asked me to break up for good. And a few others advised me to try my best to fix our two broken hearts the best we could. And we fixed our hearts, and we were even brought closer together. And guess what, I'm still happy with my boyfriend now even though we have some tiny weeny problems at times, but that's normal. As long as we don't repeat our mistakes in the past, but learn from them, things should be fine.

    When someone asks for help to fix his/her relationship problems, the very last resort should be "break it off before it's too late." Please, before advising anyone to simply break the relationship off, give them any possible ways for them to fix their problems, not just let the problem go away by "breaking it off." It can be hard, to give people advice on their problems. But I found out that the best way to give advice to others is by telling them our experiences and what we did. Sharing is, in fact, caring, isn't it?

    I think it's worth telling all people, or mainly Xangans that the solution is not only by blowing a "wonderful relationship that suddenly got hit by a train" off to Bye Bye Land.

Comments (59)

  • silvermoon_lauwa@xanga

    I think that the opposite argument to what your saying is that whilst it's nice, in theory, to ask for advice, realistically how good is the advise going to be when you are only hearing information from one individual, condensed down into a few paragraphs. Four years, for example, is a long time. Can the problems, both sides of the problems, adequately be explained in a blog for individuals to judge and offer worth while advice about?

    My point is that if you ask complete strangers about your love life, you are likely to get the "quick response solutions" that you discussed, not because they are selfish individuals who want you to break up and be broken hearted, but because the details of both parties are missing... that's just my opinion anyway.

  • lorelei@xanga

    A real relationship, in my opinion, will face some difficulties. It's impossible for two people to be together and experience no friction. The point of difference is some people will be willing to work it out and others wont. If they aren't willing to work it out, then I think breaking up is the only solution.

  • Hallelujah_Haptism@xanga
  • snapeful@xanga

    You have to be realistic sometimes. Yeah, people "MAY" change, but for the most part we're already stuck in our ways. That's why you don't date potential. No, breaking up isn't the only solution, but it depends on the full scale of a problem. But then again, yeah. Asking strangers on the internet is like asking a room of lions. 

  • joycemiles@xanga

    Sometimes people change, and sometimes people don't. Pretty much, it's really up to the person who asks for advice to listen to what people comment on their blogs. But basically, it's easier to say "break it off!" than to say "well, maybe do this and this and this and this and this... and hope he changes". It's even easier to do (unless someone really loves the other person). But yes, breaking it off is not the only way to handle things


    And sometimes, the "advisors" don't really care what happens- they just say "go bye bye" because they feel like it. The Internet is full of apathetic people :-/

  • xjadersx@xanga

    I try to give actual solutions, unless there are no solutions.

  • BoStOnIaNMoMmY@xanga

    Yeah people who are not experiance in relationship is the first ones to always think breaking up is the best thing for everyone because thats what they do, run away from the problem instead of sticking it out and working things out.

  • BlackJackBebe@xanga
  • zockonzockon@xanga

    sometimes breaking it off before it gets bad is a good thing. there are all sorts of different situations and many girls are stupid enough to think "this man is the right man" while others may see that the guy is totally not right for her. you asking for advice is setting you up for either denial or something you already know in your head. i mean, think about it, why would you even ask anyone else for advice. i never ask for relationship advice because honestly, first of all, you'd be telling your friend the situation from your point of view, thus being biased. second, the person you trusted in may not know the same experience so may be talking about of their ass. most of the time, you can come to your own conclusion since you know yourself and the situation best. i always talk to my friends about what happened and always come up with my next move myself. because all you really need is to talk about it and depending on that, you'll realize if its worth it or not.

  • xx0behindthesmile@xanga

    i agree completely, but i think sometimes people are saying break it off because the person who is writing the post really SHOULD do something about it instead of being blinded by liking the person. each situation is different, and yes, people do change, but in some cases people keep trying and trying for a relationship that is only resulting in them hurting - which other people can see, but not the person in it. and once the person in it can admit that the relationship is doing more harm than good, then they can break it off in a healthy way. i personally don't approve of relationships that only result in you getting hurt. relationships are supposed to make you happy and fufill a part of your life.  i don't think people who respond to datingish are trying to be cold-hearted and give off a quick response - if they didn't really care, they wouldn't respond at all, you know? but i agree that breaking up should NOT be the first reaction to problems in a relationship.

  • Luketh@xanga

    @suggestivetongue@xanga - I have to agree with this.

    No relationship is going to go smooth and perfectly.  There's always going to be a bump along the way if not more.  As suggestivetongue said, if you're not willing, there's not much else you can do.

    People can change, but it depends what your talking about when you mention change.  Certain characteristics are always going to be there, that's what makes us who we are. 8 out of 10 people on xanga are probably narrow minded/don't give a shit or give a quick condensed response.  If you're going to ask for relationship advice on here, you should expect to have to filter through a lot of crap in order to find some which is relatively helpful.  But let's face it, the majority of the internet is like this.

  • KookingEggs

    Because breaking up catalyzes the realization process - realization of ones flaws and mistakes... and so if something is worth keeping, breaking up clarifies it faster.

    people dont appreciate what they have until its gone... its true!

  • jeezshoua@xanga

    If the guy/girl cheats in a relationship, I tell them to break it off.  Why do you want to be with someone who cheated on you and have no respect and consideration for you at all?

    If the guy/girl is too insecure in the relationship to even go check an e-mail that you no longer use, I tell them to break it off.  Why would you want to be with a person whom you can't trust in a relationship?  Without trust, there is no relationship.  That insecure individual needs to work on herself before she can even get into a relationship or she will drive the men out of her lives.

    If the guy/girl in the relationship is emotionally, verbally, or physically abusive, I tell them to break it off.  If he or she can't respect you as an individual in a relationship, you don't need him/her.  The relationship ain't going to be healthy or last, anyways.

    If it's reasonable and makes logical sense, yes, I tell them to break it off for their own good.  It's not because I'm a stranger and that's the easiest way that I see fit for their problem.  But of course, there are a few who thinks "breaking up" with their significant other is the only solution or they just don't care.  Simply put.

    People will voice out their advices and opinions but at the end, the op is the person to decide how to fix his/her problem the way he/she sees it fit.

  • coconut_dream@xanga

    I totally agree. That`s why if I can`t think of other options, I opt out of commenting, because the author doesn`t need another comment that says the same thing as the three before mine.
    But it`s hard for some people to put themselves in the author`s shoes, so the easiest piece of advice is to "Move on. He`s not worth your time," or "Break up with her; she`s a goldigging witch," etc.

  • S0N1@xanga

    @snapeful@xanga - I completely agree with you 

  • cassiemaygo@xanga

    thank you for saying this.
    I know when my friends have guy issues I don't tell them to end it.

    People go through rough patches in their relationship that will make or break it.
    No one should ever be encouraged to end their four year relationship unless it's on
    their own terms.

  • TheCaffeinatedKnitter@xanga

    I don't think you can obtain too much in a 6 paragraph post about someone's relationship. Some of those posts are ridiculous and just plain stupid, and the girl or guy who wrote them are just fooling themselves if they think that posting 100% negative information (or often conflicting information) about their SO is going to gain them any answer except "break it off".  I just know that there are things that I wouldn't put up with if I were dating someone, four years or not.  I don't think that anyone should have to put up with a lack of respect... EVER.

  • UnopenedSuitcases@xanga

    bye bye land. but i like this post. i mean yeah we shouldn't always resort tobreakingup, but if there's realy nothing else to do, and the person's heart isn't in it anymore, then that is what you should do

  • be__quiet@xanga

    I completely agree with you, and I'm glad you posted about this.

  • QCEM@xanga

    Exactly. The reason the person's posting is because they need help. They like the relationship and don't want to end it. I've been dating my boyfriend for a year and 8 months, and we went through extremely rough stuff. Even broke up for a few days. It was extremely hard on both of us. Then we got together. We're still close, and of course there are still problems. But we don't ever plan to separate. It's just stupid to end something that amazing because of one small hitch. Nothing's perfect.

  • Vixeyfox87@xanga

    @snapeful@xanga - I agree with you because people are going to put their two cents in about anything you say on the internet.

  • e4st0n_5ynth3sis@xanga

    every situation is different and you can't apply the same solution to every situation otherwise there would be no problem

  • xSayakax@xanga

    Advice is hard to give, especially when I don't actually know the couple.  I understand that I can not and will not judge anyone on xanga and when he/she asks for advice, I'm always genuinely trying to help.  Most of my advice centers around talking to his/her SO because the only ones, who can truly fix a relationship is the ones in the relationship.  I also believe that the people on xanga, who asks for advice just wants to find a way to vent for the time being.  And sometimes it's just more comfortable to vent to strangers, who has the view of an outsider.  Of course "breaking up" is the last resort because any relationship requires effort from both sides.  Some people use "breaking up" as a means of escape because having a relationship is difficult and frustrating sometimes.  While others overcome arguments and are brought closer together.  After all, arguments are part of "getting to know each other" phase. 

    I don't believe you can change a person, but he/she can improve.  As long as a couple comes to an understanding and doesn't make the same mistakes, then it's all good.  After all, you chose your SO, knowing he has some flaws b/c no one is perfect.  It all depends on if you're willing to accept and work with those flaws.  For instance, I know my bf can be very sensitive (more so than me) and he had told me that he will try to change for the better.  However, although I listened and supported him, I never asked him to change.  He is still sensitive, but he did improve and as long as I recognize his efforts to change, then that's all that matters to me.  As for me, I'm a very introvert person and tend to keep my emotions to myself.  Whenever there's a problem or situation, I shut down.  Since I've always been this way, I have a hard time opening up to my bf and expressing my emotions.  Because we are 2 different people, it was hard on our relationship, but we got through all those arguments and understood each other more.  I promised to be more expressive, he promised to be less sensitive and we both improved.  We've been going strong for 1year and a half now.  I don't think anyone should try to shape a person to become their ideal SO, because everyone has good and bad traits.  As long as there are efforts from both sides to work on their relationship together, then that relationship is worth keeping.  It takes 2 to make a relationship successful!  

  • aLONERinthedark@xanga
  • xoxokissme@xanga

    I'm for the idea that if you can love one person, you can love another. I have a zero-tolerance policy for bullshit, especially when it's the same bullshit over and over again. Instead of wasting months or years on something that may or may not work and a partner who may or may not change, I'm just going to give them the boot. Hopefully they'll learn their lesson for the next person who comes their way, but it's no longer my problem.

    It depends on the specific problem at hand--some behaviors are easy for people to modify, like asking them to not leave the toilet seat up or to stop making fun of your friends in front of you. And then others are deep-rooted and often the manifestation of something going on in the person's psyche. Asking the person to stop or change this behavior is nearly impossible. Do people change? Yes. Should we expect them to, simply because we want them to? No. Let's get real, people. A person has to first want to change, and secondly, want to change enough to take the steps to see it through. The truth is that most people are lazy. They're not going to change for someone else.

    And what if they do change these deep-rooted behaviors? It's going to be a constant struggle. People who struggle with weight issues or alcoholism can be successful and modify their behavior, but few are successful with it every day for the rest of their lives. Every day is a battle, and many will find themselves failing at one point or another. I don't believe that love should be an every day struggle. It's just not worth it to me.

    I can't profess to know everything about relationships, but I've learned enough to know that not every problem has a solution. Sometimes the solution is to walk away and find someone who's a better match for you. And I'm certainly smart enough to realize what's shitty and what's not. No relationship is perfect; that's why it's about how you feel about it as a whole. If the relationship makes you happy but the problem does not, then the problem may be fixable. If you're unsure about the whole thing, then it's probably time to just call it quits. I call 'em as I see 'em--I don't care what redeeming qualities your SO or your relationship possesses, in spite of the shortcomings. If it looks, smells, and sounds like shit...it's shit. More people need to understand this.

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