Friday, 03 July 2009
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You Can't Be a Bisexual Woman if You Only Want Men.
I'm sure I've written a variation of this post at some point in the fairly recent past, but I'm far too lazy to be scrolling through entries trying to locate the original post. Besides. If I have, it was probably privatized in response to another bout of family-drama, so let's pretend what I'm about to say here today is new and uncharted territory for me, shall we?
There's A Difference Between "Man, She's An Attractive Woman" and "Good God, I Want To Tear Her Clothes Off and Fuck Her Brains Out."Admittedly, it's a mouthful of a sub-title for this section of my post, but Goddammit, it's true. Moreso than men, women are all dainty lines and sloping curves; from the standpoint of pure aesthetics, women are attractive. As women, we're also more likely to recognize attractive members of our same gender than men are -- it's far more socially acceptable for me to find Angelina Jolie absolutely gorgeous than it would be for a man to gush about Johnny Depp's disarming grin. Whatever the reasons for it, women have a tendency to evaluate the attractiveness of their peers in a far more open and vocal way than men.
That being said, I think young women these days grip rather instinctually - and somewhat pathetically - to the rather trendy idea that finding another woman attractive automatically means they're bisexual. That somehow "Hey, she's pretty" equates to a deeper sexual attraction that can only be described as equal to (or maybe even greater than) whatever attraction they feel towards members of the opposite sex. That "She's got gorgeous eyes" suddenly means a desire to sexually experience the woman in question..
However, attraction (or finding someone attractive) is fundamentally different than sexual attraction (or finding someone sexually attractive). There is a vast difference between the desire to have sex with say, Eliza Dushku, and merely wanting to have those characteristics we find attractive in her.
You Don't Want to Have Sex with Her; You Just Want to BE Her. Sticking with the Eliza Dushku example (because good Lord, I really do want that woman to undress me with her teeth), I've come to the conclusion that young women are far more likely to admit to attraction than jealousy. In coveting say, Eliza's tiny waist, ample hips and dark eyes, they redefine the jealous/envious desire to be everything they find attractive about this other woman as, instead, a desire to have her.
Because boys are far more likely to find bisexuality attractive in a woman, and nobody likes a jealous bitch.
But the fact of the matter is, a lot of these 'bisexual' girls would turn tail and run at the first inklings of a true bisexual experience. Pour vodka down their throats, set them in front of a crowd of doting men, and they'll play tonsil hockey until they pass out, skirts up around their waists. But put those same two girls in a private room together - give them a chance to privately, soberly and honestly explore their sexual orientation - and a vast majority of these girls would run back to their boyfriends, eager to reassert their staunchly heterosexual tendencies.
They don't lie awake at night fantasizing about the subtle curve of breast to hip, the smell of shampoo in long dark hair, or the click of red heels against tile. They don't flirt with other women. They don't, when they find themselves single and on the lookout for potential relationships, even consider spending the night in the arms of a pretty woman. They just don't. Their fantasies, however twisted and kinky they might be otherwise, consist of heterosexual sex -- the good ol' peg-in-hole, as my ex used to call it. When describing their perfect mate, it's always "A man who..."; when picturing their future, it's always husband, wife, and biological children.
And It's Kind of Insulting to the People Who Really ARE Bi.While you're busy prancing around in your short skirts, purring to any man who'll listen that you'd be up for a threesome because you're bisexual, there are women (and men) who genuinely spend their lives sorting out whatever conflicting sexual feelings they have. Men and women who watch your attention-whoring, ignorant grabs for attention, and want to kill you for being so stupid. Goddammit, I read some of your posts and pulses, listen to your arrogant speeches, and -- cough. Right, misplaced rage.
The fact of the matter is, we know those formative years are hard on a girl. Those of us who've lived through it, we realize high school (and even college) is largely a desperate grab for attention, the misguided idea that holding on to the latest trend will somehow make life better. We realize that faux-bisexuality is just the latest of a long series of peer pressure-induced identity crises.
But it doesn't make you any less of a liar. It doesn't make you any less ignorant. And it certainly doesn't make you bisexual.
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@MattFreakinNix@xanga - Everything that I wrote, and THAT'S all you come back with ?!
It's an Australian saying...it means pissing around, messing around, dilly-dallying, being silly, procrastinating, wasting time.
You know, I had an inkling even as I wrote it that you may not get it, but I credited you with the ability to understand what I meant, are you seeking to prove me wrong in doing that?
And everything else that I wrote stands.
@S_K_O_T@xanga - I know what it means, dude. You are not so intelligent that things you say just fly over my head. It's just funny as hell to imagine somebody running, pissing, and farting at the same time. I didn't respond cause I don't care. You're an ass. Suck a nut
And, just in case you don't know what that means, I am not telling you to literally suck a nut. I am telling to fuck off.
Have a nice, you twat. : )
@MattFreakinNix@xanga - So, the question is then begged......WHY did you ask?
That's then just MORE piss-farting around!
But now, on the hop, you claim that it didn't go over your head(which, despite the dorky image, wouldn't take much)?!!
No, I won't fuck off, there is bad shit going on, there is ignorant, arrogant posts like this one corrupting people, and there are fuckwits like yourself taking up time and space spewing out bullshit....I will NOT fuck off.
And, here you are doing, I don't know what, being "gay", sticking up(God know's why) for those females so arrogant as go "bi" or "lesbian", standing up (in the very wrong way) for women's rights, but then calling me a "twat" ?!
I just love that (typical) libertine contradiction.
Of course, when you're all "PC" it doesn't matter what you actually say though, does it, it's all off the radar, it's all, allegedly, "okay"?!
@S_K_O_T@xanga - First, before I even delve into the true point of this comment, I need to get something off my chest, and to do that you're going to need a bit of my background.
I'm a senior pursuing a master's degree in Computer Science and Mathematics. Not to boast, but on a daily basis, I'm taught by people ranging from one of the founding employees of Oracle to nationally published Robotics specialists, as well as people who've personally written software that keeps our nation's satellites from falling out of motherfucking space.
That being said, I'm not an expert. But I've learned more than enough from them to be able to deduce that your statements about Alan Turing are among the most ignorant things I've ever heard in my life, although that's to say nothing of the rest of your comments here.
Sir, have you ever taken a graduate level course on computation modeling? I'm going to guess not. If you had, you'd know that not only were Turing machines important back in the day, but they also provide the foundation for understanding virtually every complex computational algorithm in existence. Yet you claim he'd have done "as good a job, and probably better, without 'being' 'gay'".
Do you even realize the gravity of what you said there? Yes, there were others working alongside Turing as he toiled on his cryptography projects and other ventures. But did any of them contribute something that fundamentally altered the course of technology as much as the Turing machine? Not really. That's not to discredit their efforts, but you fail to realize that the invention of the computer, which according to you had been going on for "over a century", had mostly stalled. True, prototypes had been built, but aside from a few later prototypes which never really caught on, early "computers" were essentially glorified abaci and weren't easy to use. Yes, there were many people who worked on what eventually became the computer. There was no individual inventor. But if I were to pick one person whose contributions outweighed all others, I would unequivocally name that person to be Alan Turing.
As for you implying that he could have done a "better" job if not for his sexuality, let me just say that you're right. I'm sure of it. How? Because if his brilliant mind had been completely free to work on his projects rather than being distracted by the hateful society created by ignorant, crass, judgmental people such as yourself, I believe he would have been even more productive.
However, for such a "depraved" person, as you so kindly put it, to shape the future of electronics as we know them and invent a mathematical concept that is still a vital, core concept in engineering courses over half a fucking century later, I'd say the man did fairly well for himself. And for that, I will always admire him and strive to reach his level of contribution to society.
But enough about computers. That's not the purpose of this comment. I wanted to write this comment because I'm saddened by yours. I've visited your site. You claim in your very first post to be a "radical Conservative." That's all fine by me; I'm not attacking your personal convictions or anything of the sort. If you firmly believe that homosexuality and bisexuality are sinful and against your religion (I'm not entirely certain which religion you belong to, although it's mostly irrelevant), that's your right. What did disturb me is that you seem to be absolutely lacking in any ability whatsoever to see the other side of an argument. You mention wanting to "rock the boat" and upset the "status quo."
It's hard to tell whether you're really this stubborn and ignorant or whether you just desperately want the attention that comes from appearing that way. For someone who is utterly uncompromising, I think you might be a bit early on calling everyone else "smug." So since you seem to enjoy crowing about how much you love facts, let's take a look at some of your claims.
Statement 1: "All religion, all theology, all
spiritually (and really, that should be enough!)... and ALL medical,
scientific and psychological tests go AGAINST "homo-sexuality"!"
Okay. Since you haven't decided to back that up at all, let's try out our handy friend Google. Typing in "Religion and homosexuality", this was the first link that came up. (See there? ReligionFacts.com. I just knew you'd love that since, you know, you love facts and all.) From that very page, we find the following:
"The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans were generally accepting of homosexual behavior within certain contexts. Hinduism and Buddhism tend to view homosexuality primarily from the standpoint of its karmic effects, with varying conclusions."
Also:
"Some liberal strands of both mainstream Protestant Christianity and
Reform Judaism advocate, on theological as well as social grounds, the
full acceptance of homosexuals and their relationships."
Oh hell, while we're at it, let's just go to Wikipedia.Let's see here...
"There exist religious groups and denominations whose interpretation of
scripture and doctrine states that homosexuality is morally acceptable,
and a natural occurrence. For example, in 1988 the United Church of Canada,
that country's largest Protestant denomination, affirmed that "a) All
persons, regardless of their sexual orientation, who profess Jesus
Christ and obedience to Him, are welcome to be or become full member of
the Church; and b) All members of the Church are eligible to be considered for the Ordered Ministry."[31]
In 2000, the Church's General Assembly further affirmed that "human
sexual orientations, whether heterosexual or homosexual, are a gift
from God and part of the marvelous diversity of creation."
BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!:
"Some religious groups have concluded that there can be no scriptural
prohibition against homosexuality as it is presently understood, namely
as the outworking of an orientation. In 2003, the Union of Liberal and
Progressive Synagogues in the UK announced that committed same-sex
partnerships between two Jews could be recognised by appropriate Jewish
ritual and that those Rabbis who are members of the Union's Rabbinic
Conference and who wish to officiate at such ceremonies have its
support to do so: "The Rabbinic Conference recognises that holiness may
be present in committed same-sex partnerships and supports the creation
of appropriate liturgy for same-sex commitment ceremonies."
So uh.....Not to be rude, but what was that you were saying about all religion being against homosexuality? Just trying to clear that up.
I could really do this all day, but that's not the point. The point I'm trying to get across is that spouting blanket statements and firmly declaring that your personal viewpoint is also the UNIVERSAL viewpoint (and don't even pretend you aren't. You said it yourself: "Both personally, and socially....intimately, and universally, "homo-sexuality" is abhorrent.") is offensive and just plain wrong. There will never be a "universal" viewpoint. To have one is utterly contradictory to the purpose our brain serves - to rationalize. What good is rationalization if you settle on one belief set and never bother to consider others? Besides, as MattFreakinNix said, normal is relative. This is something I can't possibly stress enough. What is normal/acceptable for you may not be normal/acceptable for others.
Standing firm in your beliefs is one thing, but to ultimately act as though other viewpoints aren't worthy of your own consideration, much less the consideration of others, is absurd. So before you go off judging others for their sexual preferences, know that the entire world doesn't revolve around you. Is your opinion important? Sure, if you can express it calmly without blatantly pointing fingers and throwing ad-hominem attacks towards anyone who bothers to disagree with you. That's childish and uncalled for. But hey, if you want to harass people on the internet because you've got nothing better to do, be my guest.
Anyway, if homosexuality is indeed a mental condition, and it's called arrogance (as you claim), then dude.... I gotta say:
You're the gayest motherfucker I've ever known. :)
@Mike_Riken@xanga - Lies, lies, and misconstrued semi-truths, all of what you just spat out there!
It's staggering that you beat such a long way around a big bush there in regards computing, brushing over things to still push Alan Turing, and more so, "homo-sexuality" as the be-all and end-all.
And onto your extremely biased reading and representation of religion and the foul sin of "homo-sexuality"...
Gosh, let's just say, extremely skewed, misrepresentitive, biased, edited, blinkered, self-serving and corrupted.
Notice certain key things?
Egyptians, Greeks and Romans "generally accepting" of "homo-sexuality"? and the "homo-sexuality" that they 'generally accepted' was generally paedophilic and/or committed with slaves.
These peoples "generally accepted" a lot of other things as well, are you pushing them too?
The Romans also executed "homosexuals" as well, so....
Hinduism and Buddhism, and "varying conclusions"?...and the overwhelming conclusion is DON'T DO IT!
And Hinduism has it's later 'polytheism' to worry about as well!
Some LIBERAL STRANDS of Protestant Christianity and "Reform" Judaism?....enough said.
And, oh, stand back, in 1988 the United Church of Canada decided to rebel against God, dismiss Scripture, and say that "regardless of sexual orientation" and who profess Christ and obedience to him are welcome to be a full member of the Church"!
Well, let's all do it!
On what authority did they make this move?
Don't forget, that "homosexuality" in 1988 was not the world encompassing trend that it has become now due to 20 years of appeasement such as that.
Perhaps though, they meant that anyone commtting any sin, was welcomed, as should be the case, and that professing obedience to Christ, and by matter of course, God, they would cease with such sin?
The vain conceit of "homo-sexuality" is NOT a sexual-orientation, it is sexual PERVERSION. Nothing can be oriented towards itself.
But wait, there is NOT more because there are strident Scriptual prohibitions AGAINST "homo-sexuality".
And the wider meaning and spectrum of all scriptures inherently prohibit "homo-sexuality".
So take in both the direct and unmistakeable texts, laws, and the overwhelming spirit and intention....ALL religion is avowedly against "homo-sexuality"!
Are you actually trying to say that any real religion actually promotes, or even 'allows', "homo-sexuality"??
The evil of "lesbianism" and "homosexuality" viciously attacks everyone, and all things, good.
Whether specific, or blanket, there must be counter-attacks against "homo-sexuality".
You should get back to truly understanding things, and think about what you are presently "defending".
And, I suppose, because they don't stand for anything, then libertines such as "MattFreakNix" are "allowed" to say anything they want to, because they're all "PC" and all.
It's wrong.
And right now you are on the wrong side as well.
People misuse the internet to promote, indulge in, and SHOW OFF their new "homo-sexuality", to harrass people...and what, for no apparent reason, people are somehow "not allowed" to say or do anything about that ?????????????
Ad Hominem, "homo-sexuality" ATTACKS anyone who does not meekly "agree" with what is going on.
Its seems like a good thing to you, doesn't it, to be seen as all "liberal", defending the "gays" and "lesbians" who still try and promote "themselves" as an "oppressed minority", you might bask in some of their reflected "glamou", might get some money out of it, you'll feel like Sean Penn playing Harvey Milk, you'll feel like such a "sophisticated" liberal?....well, that is all bullshit.
The evil of "homo-sexuality" is the enemy of all that is right and true and good.
And all that is right and true and good stands firmly against it.
Very "funny", as usual, that a knucklehead who spends/wastes a lot of words "defending" "homosexuality" then uses "gay" as the insult that it is !
@S_K_O_T@xanga - Haha, you're just too adorable. So contradictory. So beautiful in your self-induced ignorance.
Nobody's asking you to like other-than-straight people. Nobody's saying that you're wrong when it comes to your opinion (your "facts", on the other hand...).
We're asking that you tone it down because you're just plain offensive.
Side note: I don't think anyone here is "PC", as you call us. I'd hazard to guess that we're not atheists, either. You know what they say about assuming...
Basically, if we were "PC", we would have a hard time telling you to fuck off, suck a nut, etc. Because we would be worried about what society would think about that.
So fuck off, suck a nut, etc.
(P.S., are you really so dense as to not see Mike's irony in calling you "gay"?)
@S_K_O_T@xanga - Dude, quit insulting me by calling me "PC". I hate politically correct culture, you giant blubbering tuna. I believe that it has contributed more to intolerance than just about anything else in the last ten years. Well, other than guys like you, of course.
You must think I am a liberal, huh? Nope. I am quite assuredly not liberal. Hell, I'm not conservative. I think both sides are full of idiots just as ignorant as you.
You sit there in judgment of others as if you are one step above them. You're not. No one is any better than anyone else. If you were a truly religious man, you would understand that. But, sadly, you are not; you are a sham. : /
@S_K_O_T@xanga - You just told me people delay an ability. They may choose not to use it, but they can't delay an attribute if they already have it.
I'm sure you've already heard what kind of intelligence they have. You just don't seem to be able to listen. Although you are hot-headed, you're at the bottom rung.
I disagree. This is actually quite silly. Yes, there is a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being sexually attracted to them. But that doesn't mean you have to "tear her clothes off and fuck her brains out." Seriously, that is certainly not a prerequisite for many people when they enter romantic relationships.
@Gerald_Washington@xanga - Because that's who they are. It's not a "hey, why not?" situation.
@Schristian@xanga - I believe she was referring to the anger the post-writer has for girls when she has no way of honestly knowing their true feelings.
Also, in the definition, did you note the part that said "involving" both sexes? That's vague, and can certainly support the idea that simply thinking a woman is attractive counts as bisexual. I'm not saying that's what it means, and I'm not saying that is or isn't what I believe, all I'm saying is that it was rather silly to use this ambiguous definition as a source.
@Schristian@xanga - The situations she presented, which started halfway through, were hypotheticals where she claimed to be able to describe what they fantasize about at night. The first half of the post referred only to "young women," which seems like a fairly generalized population to me.
@S_K_O_T@xanga - Okay, I've decided -- don't speak to any of us again. You are the epitome of idiocy. Run off and die, don't come back to this page, or read something based in reality -- I don't care which you choose. Just fuck off.
@Mike_Riken@xanga - Teehee, I like that last part ^_^ Muchos gracias.
@randaness@xanga - Thank GOD someone with a brain responds to my comments. I can see your point, though I don't fully agree.
And yes to this: randaness@xanga
Just, yes.
@S_K_O_T@xanga - Are you STILL here promoting your intolerant, uneducated propoganda? You've never been able to uphold a civil, intelligent conversation; so what makes you even think that anyone here would give one good damn about your narrow-minded opinions?
Take your ignorance, your stupidity, and your lack of any knowledge; and get the fuck out of here. There's no place for your kind in this society. Never was, never will be.
Even back during the Inquisitions, you'd be considered insane.
You can't shut me out now, you blow-hard. There's no blocking me, and no running away from the discussion this time. Face up to the facts that your opinions are based on outdated, archaic, irrelevant doctrines that hold no place in a civilised society of equalists, and free-minded individuals who wish to treat humans like HUMANS.
Your way of thinking will condemn the world to the same horrors of the Black slaves, and the Holocaust.
@Schristian@xanga - lol
@randaness@xanga - I hate that guy with the fury of a thousand Ryan Seacrests faced with puce.
@Schristian@xanga -What, no mention of the white slaves, who vastly outnumbered African slaves in the Americas, and were treated much worse?
Or more than a million white slaves taken by the Barbary corsairs to the slave markets of North Africa?
And, though I don't completely agree with how it was done, all things considered, there was no group in the so-called holocaust that didn't have some kind of well earned retribution coming to them!
And there have been a lot of other 'holocausts' throughout history that don't get as much press.
What is going on now, the rampant spread of "homosexuality" and "lesbianism", this aggressive division in the genders, this dehumanising attempt to reduce humanity to a mass of androgynous "equals" (though in this 'gay/lesbian' supremacist dystopia some people are indeed more equal than others, to paraphrase Orwell) is a living holocaust, the worst holocaust ever, a holocaust not only of people themselves, but of spirit, soul, reason, ideas, hearts, truth, identity and integrity.
With...money, really, being the sole intention of it all.
And, intention, is the key thing, with all that we do or say...what are we INTENDING to be the outcome.
The full, complete, balanced, creative, Holy, natural, beneficial, harmonious, meaningful, soulful union, of male and female, of man and woman, is NOT "outdated"(if it were so, then not to outdated, WE were all born weren't we?), NOT "archaic", NOT "irrelevant"...and the pure doctrines that stress this virtue are timeless, eternal, ever relevant.
Though there is a lot of noise and movement, and still a lot of momentum to society, we actually are living in the LEAST civilised time in human history...and, historically, "homosexuality" and "lesbianism" ONLY ever become rampant at the END of civilisations!
You think this is now a civilised society of "equalists"?
The vain perversion, the arrogant misandry and misogyny that you consider so worthy of support, "lesbianism" and "homosexuality", utterly revolve around a total non-equality! around a cruel gender supremacy! horrible "lesbian" clubs for "womyn", were men MAY be 'tolerated' as a friend, yet must pay an extra entry charge....ghastly "lesbian" "dating sites", with the line "no men please"...where is the "equality" there?
Does a woman have an "equal" chance with a man who has gone "gay"?
Does a man have a chance with a woman who has gone "lesbian" now???
No, the horrible, divisive, vain, arrogant "gay" and "lesbian" scenes are built around, and thrive, on a totally sexist, immoral, inhuman, gender split...on a total denial of the worth and value of the other gender!
ALL society and civilisation is founded on the essential, elemental union of man and woman, of husband and wife.
Those going "gay" or "lesbian", who now seem to receive an express route to utter adoration from so many today...whatever they say, whatever they do, it's all "okay", they're "gay"...and, though we are now all, allegedly, equal, the rules and responsibilities for "lesser", "normal" human beings somehow now don't apply to them....though we're all, apparently, "equal" but ??!
Those going "gay" or "lesbian" callously treat anyone of the other gender, and anyone not falling for having to "support" their new "lifestyle", as ANYTHING BUT HUMAN!
And men are now treated as, at best, a utilitarian work horse, a machine, a robot...at worst, yes, modern day serf, a slave.
Gosh..."free minded individuals"?...that could leave you open to a few things! I'll leave it up to your own imagination to ponder what further horrors may befall us under the open-door policy to do "whatever" that this tyranny of so-called "free minded individuals" may lead to!
And, you're all actually toeing a very hack, very cliched' "modern", "free thinking", 'liberal' party line....the new, and much worse totalitarianism of "political correctness"...and, after years of having "queerness" fed to by advertising, TV shows, music videos, movies, celebrities, the liberal media and a wayward liberal education system....you actually believe that you are "free thinking"???
I'm more truly free thinking that all of you put together!
However, I temper that, as one MUST....with discretion, discernment, morality, integrity, and conscience.
And what is that curt lie there about no blocking 'this time'?....I have never, NEVER, blocked anyone!....it is ME, and anyone else going against the oppressive, inhuman, aggressive "gay/lesbian" supremacist flow of these times who is ALWAYS ruthlessly blocked, banned, and deleted by all the so-called "free thinking" "gays", "lesbians" and their brainwashed "supporters".
And, funny, you say you won't be blocked, but you also tell me to "fuck off"??!!
There is an even worse, even more awful inquisition going on now...the awful "politically correct" inquisition, and anyone not seen to be adequately "liberal" and "free thinking" enough, anyone who won't meekly 'go with the flow', who won't "tolerate" and "get used to" this awful new 'gay' and 'lesbian' 'world', is out, gone, finished....they, are now no longer "human".
Intention is the key....just how, exactly, I want you to try and explain, is arrogant people going "gay" or "lesbian" somehow equating now to "knowledge"? to "civilisation"? to being human, or benefitting humanity?
Here's the truth...in reply to some of you lies and smokescreens....the inverted vanity of "homosexuality" and "lesbianism" is the WORST of narrow-mindedness....try and come up with something more narrow than a selfish, biased, one-sided "SAME sex" 'lifestyle'!
There is NOTHING more deliberately ignorant than an ignorant "SAME sex" "lifestyle"!
Only "knowing" your own gender does NOT take the place of real knowledge. ALL genuine knowledge comes down resoundingly AGAINST "SAME sex" behaviour!
It's "funny" how you go on about an "equal" society....men and woman are NOT equal, we are of equal importance!....yet are so eager to cut, to eliminate, to get rid off, anyone who doesn't go along with this new status quo, this new "free thinking" society".
In a proper, balanced, civilised, complete human society, there is a real place for ALL men and women, and there was a place for me in the good, old, true society...but, not now, and I will NOT take it....and, you say I have "no place" in this new "society"?....and weren't you saying something about holocausts?
What "doctrines" are you basing this new "society" on?
And in this aggressively feminist, dehumanised, unequal, "free", 'lesbian-centric' new society, men are, and will be, the slaves....that is, until they can clone female children, and get robots to do everything that we do...make no mistake about it.
This IS a holocaust, this IS the most "civil" uncivilised time in human history.
YOU, are at present on the wrong side.
You declaring me "insane" in such an insane society, proves I am doing something right, thank God!
I will NOT be forced to "think freely", I will NOT be made a (lesser)"equal", I will not "fuck off", I will NOT be a slave !
@MattFreakinNix@xanga - The ENTIRE arrogant "gay" and "lesbian" scenes utterly revolve around thinking that they, and their own gender, are BETTER than anyone else!
Those going "gay" or "lesbian" callously and coneitedly JUDGE the other gender as being BENEATH them, as being unworthy of them, and they judge THEMSELVES so highly!
The last ten years?
The last ten years has seen the EXPLOSION of awful, forced, meek, muted "tolerance" of ever more sins posed as "lifestyles"!
This last decade has been the decade OF tolerance...and that enforced "tolerance" has let things get worse, and worse, and worse.
People can ONLY ever be forced to TOLERATE a BAD thing.
I cut straight through the middle, I dislike many conservatives, I HATE all liberals.
Don't fool yourself, if you get wishy-washy on something, and "don't judge" it, you ARE tacitly ALLOWING it...you ARE politically correct....you are the non-commital sheep those engineerin this new "society'' just LOVE to have "tolerating" what is going on!
10 - 20 years ago I just KNOW you would have been calling me a "fag" on account of the way I'd dress, now you're all down with "gay rights".
In my time I've been shot by both sides...I've received insults and attacks from 'normal' people, and from the "liberal", "queer" people....and 'they' are MUCH, MUCH, WORSE !!!!
Open your eyes....all those going "gay" or "lesbian" make a lot of awful mis-, and self-serving, judgements, all the time.......and those going "gay" or "lesbian" deserve judgement for what they do...it's called accountability, it's called paying your debt to society, it's called reaping what you sow, it's called CONSEQUENCE !!!
@S_K_O_T@xanga - So, basically what you are saying is that it is wrong for me to allow people to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm me? I must not see the flaw in logic that you do.
Dude, how does it make sense to say that gays are putting the other gender beneath them? Just because they aren't sexually attracted to them? There are so many people I see everyday that I am not attracted to, and, yet, I seem to be able to not hate them, despise them, judge them, or in any real way discriminate towards except to say that I probably wouldn't fuck them.
You're right; people tend to tolerate what they don't like. Just like, I tolerate you. And you tolerate me. You see, in different circles, either of us can be hated or loved. This is why being an ignorant jackoff doesn't make any god damn sense. Different cultures have different outlooks. What works for me and you wouldn't make sense in other areas. Does that make us right and them wrong? No. And it doesn't work that way in reverse, either. I implore you to "tolerate" different viewpoints in the future so that, when the tables turn as they tend to, people will be tolerant of your viewpoints.
Look, dude, if you want to get all butt hurt over people like me disagreeing with you, that's your thing. I find it funny that people like me seem to be able to piss you off so much. You are incredibly ignorant of the ideas you yourself try to present. Norms, orientation, whatever; you deliver these ideas with the dexterity of a person with no hands attempting brain surgery.
You are rude and offense, and, all around, a dick. But, you are entitled to your own opinion, so... whatever. Do what you like, but I guarantee that you will convert more against your way of thinking that towards it.
@MattFreakinNix@xanga - At what grade do you rate "harm"?
Who now will set the bar on what constitutes "harm"?
What limit do you put on people "doing what they want"?
And once you've said that thay can "do what they want", how can you then have any right to say what they do?
There is MUCH more to harm, MUCH more that harms, than just the obvious, a punch in the face, or a kick in the teeth...that is just the tip of the iceberg, the harm (and it can cause nothing but harm!) caused by "homo-sexuality" is terrible, wide-ranging, immeasurable, and completely unnecessary.
You say people can "do what they want", but also that the limit to that is if it "doesn't harm you"...AND you talk about flawed logic?
And what if what doesn't harm you, harms the next person? that's then none of your concern? and vice versa...something harms you, but doesn't harm the next man...so, you've no right to do anything about it?
A very troublesome, extremely vague set of new "rules" (but, we can't rules anymore, can we?) that you, and many others, short-sightedly propose now.
What you should get back to thinking about...is in how many ways, both insidiously and directly, both covertly and overtly, people going "gay" or "lesbian" DOES harm you, harms me, harms themselves, and harms the overall society !
Wise up, this is NOT, in any way shape of form, like a guy not being attracted to all females, that's only natural...he does not bear ill will towards them as females though, he still LOVES females, still treasures them.
The grotesquely supremacist gender discrimination indulged in by all who go "gay" or "lesbian" is the absolute worst extreme of misogyny and misandry....they DO despise the other gender, they wish the worst for them, and they WILL aggressively take whatever they can away from them.
Make no mistake about it, this callous gender bias is VERY harmful.
I am NOT ignorant, au contraire, I've been aware of this evil shit for years, and have gotten to despise it more and more with each passing year, as it gets worse and worse, and ever more harmful. If I WERE ignorant I would not be confronting it, I would be laughing along with how "fabulous" it all is with so many half-wits going along with it all now.
There is NO culture that has a different outlook on this, ALL culture forbids this evil.
Essentially, all culture is very similar.
The only thing now is how some culture has been watered down, diluted, and been forced into a system of muted "toleration", thank God that around the world some people still have the strength and integrity of culture to admonish, and if need be, severely punish, anyone indulging in these sins.
I am so completely fully and totally on the opposite end of the spectrum from being "ignorant" about anything I am discussing. You just say that, as have the other dupees on here, as a brush off.
What, really, WHAT is it, that is NEVER actually disclosed, that one may be "ignorant" of, that when made 'aware' of, will then make "homo-sexuality" seem just fine and dandy???
The fact of the matter...is that, if you were to strip away the "hot sex", the "good looks" and all the expendable wealth generated by those being "gay" or "lesbian", and look at the stone cold arrogance, bias, imbalance, conceit, waste, irresponsibility, malice, bigotry, discrimination, vice, real narrow-mindedness, sexism, elitism, divisiveness, barrenness and selfishness of those being "gay" or "lesbian"...you would see what glaringly stands out as the WORST extreme of outright ignorance !
And no, I do NOT like being disagreed with, just for disagreements sake. So "funny" how now 'no-one' is allowed to disagree with the "queer" agenda!!!
I'm not rude, nor offensive, if you consider the truth to be rude and offensive, then you have some serious thinking to do.
I will spare you a run down of the retinue of horrifically rude and offensive things I have suffered hearing from "sophisticated" "gays", "lesbians", and their 'supporters', over the last two years...it is awful, it would curdle your blood....but, allegedly, that's all "okay", they can do and say anything "they" want, as long as they "don't harm"(?) anyone...and, though "they" are , allegedly, 'just the same as us', they also, allegedly, don't have to live up to the same responsibilities as the rest of us....anything they say is "okay".
It's not, what 'they' are doing is wrong, completely wrong.
I am sick of this society getting whittled down to a series of inconsequential "opinions"...we each get to have one now, but we're not allowed to voice it, and they 'don't matter" anyway.
No, life is about MUCH MORE than just opinions...many of which are ill-informed anyway.
There is knowledge, there is truth.
I am NOT talking about an opinion...I am telling the TRUTH !
I'm not seeking to "convert" people to anything, I am seeking to revert people, there is a major difference.
People now get "converted" to these vulgar sins....I am REMINDING people of what is right, of the TRUTH !
@Mangonese@xanga - One simply could NOT, given a hundred years, even begin to imagine a worse example of self-induced ignorance, than the self-induced ignorance of "SAME - SEX" "lifestyles"!
And these vain, ignorant "lifestyles", those indulging in them, and those supporting them, utterly thrive upon contradiction!
You will NEVER witness or experience more, and worse, contradiction than that coming from liberals and libertines, the politically correct, and the downright selfishly hedonistic, as they bend, twist and squirm, jump and hop around, lie and deceive, boast and brag, as they slither and slide, playing games of smoke and mirrors, making up and changing 'rules' as fast as they can, promulgating myths, and hiding facts, yelling, screeching, and simultaneously ignoring, scooting around on shifting sands, a hydra-like assault, hypocritical and obtuse, as they push, promote, and 'defend', "homo-sexuality".
All the vile tactics used to push "homosexuality" and "lesbianism" are utterly, and can only ever be, completely contradictory.
People standing for NOTHING of any meaning, people with NO solid foundation, people going for anything, people with NO sound basis...WILL flip-flop, will go with the flow, will float on the changing breeze, will LIE...WILL contradict themselves, and each other, and terribly so.
The truth CANNOT be "toned down", no matter how much the politically correct and "other than straight"(?) pressure groups may try and tone it down, or even silence it...the truth speaks loud and clear.
The truth cannot be toned down.
And I am NOT being "offensive"!
The offensive "gay" and "lesbian" 'lifestyles' are by definition OFFENSIVE !
And those arrogantly indulging in these offensive "lifestyles" take much malicious glee from just how much they DO OFFEND people!
But we, allegedly, have to "deal with it".
These vain, careless, cold-hearted, narcissistic, selfish, arrogant people, indulging in these wilfully offensive 'lifestyles' DO NOT CARE who they offend...there is NOTHING that I could say in response to that which could possibly be 'offensive'!
Whilst people arrogantly indulge in offensive "gay" and "lesbian" "lifestyles" they then utterly forfeit the right to act "offended" by anyone calling them out on their obscene sins, and telling them the truth.
If you think the truth is 'offensive' then you have quite a problem, which you ought to hastily rectify.
I'm speaking the truth, the truth may often be confronting...and it ALWAYS is to those so self-inducedly ignorant as to go "gay" or "lesbian" because it DOES shine a light on what they are doing wrong...as it is if you contradict it.
The truth is NEVER "offensive".
And I am thoroughly SICK of all the irony that has taken the place of true heart andsoul, and genuine wit, in recent years.
I actually in fact know a few boys who find straight girls just as hot as bisexual girls, sometimes even more attractive.
I am bi, I'm not afraid to say it, but I do hate being it. I once had a crush on a friend who was very, very straight.
I don't like having crushes on friends, it always makes it much more complicated for me.
I've always struggled with my sexuality. I've spent sleepless nights wondering if I was lesbian or not, trying to convince myself that since I liked boys I was not.
I came out this year, and suddenly everyone found out. I hated people talking to me about it and asking if I really did like girls.
Because it's true, I do.
It's true, some girls pretend to be bi, but you can always tell by how they kissed it wasn't because of the attraction.
I hate it when people pretend to be bi to get a guys attention. It is insulting to the rest of us who have to deal with the other girls in the locker room wondering if I'm checking them out or not.
I can't stand these girls who say well I like to fuck girls but I couldn't LOVE one.Please! A PERFECT example of a bisexual USING a woman for nothing more than sex.lol And you wonder why Lesbians stay away from these women. It has NOTHING to do with insecurity in regards to cheating but more so in the fact that she knows based upon statistics that the vast majority of you HOP the fence and join the majority leaving HER to pick up the peices. And frankly it usually isnt even worth it.Bisexuals women are cool but dating them is 9 times out of ten bound for heartache and the one that usually gets hurt is the gay chick.