Sunday, 28 June 2009
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Being Accused of Something You Don't Remember Doing
Concerning my ED, I am rather certain that I have never ever relapsed without a trigger. The trigger usually does not make much sense, but I can trace back the feelings to that trigger and know that the relapse started there. My brain connects things in really strange ways sometimes.
Three days ago my mate and I were having one of those "about nothing yet everything" fights where it was like a mad free-for-all on what we were fighting about. We have these little free-for-all explosive fights every now and then, where we basically vomit up everything we've been secretly upset about, hurt each others' feelings and then make up, acting like it never happened. It happens basically because he holds shit in and then freaks the fuck out, and whenever I try to talk about my feelings, he freaks the fuck out. It's a major pain in the ass, but whatever.
So we were having such a fight, and he randomly busted out with the accusation that I have slapped him several times in our relationship. I denied it immediately, as I have no memory whatsoever of ever striking him. In fact, I am still positive that I have never smacked him. Yet he claimed up and down that less than a month ago, I had reached over in bed, smacked him hard and rolled over and refused to say anything to him. I was dumbstruck by the accusation, as I would surely remember something like that. I have never just struck someone in anger in my entire life and have no memory of hitting him.
So I asked if he meant the times when I would playfully tap him on the cheek. Usually he would be saying something cocky in a playful way and I would playfully tap his cheek. He never had a negative response to this, and I actually had always felt like it was an endearment sort of thing. He claimed that no, I had struck him several times very hard, and then even when I was being playful that it was still very disrespectful and had always pissed him off. I apologized, even though I had no memory of this and did not feel that my playful taps (though I would have quit if he had just said something) were disrespectful, at least no so much to really piss him off.
And further more, why had he never said anything about it these past two whole years, if it had always been pissing him off? Why did he never act pissed? And why do I have no memory of full-out attacking my mate, even though he claims it has happened several times?
I laid in bed alone that night, as he chose to sleep downstairs, and I tried to imagine how it would have happened. I reached across the bed with my hand and tried to imagine me actually hitting him. I could not. It felt totally foreign and triggered no memory. How the hell could I not remember hitting my mate less than a month ago? I am certain that I would never actually strike anyone, let alone my mate, unless I was fighting for my life or something. I am very weak and passive. It makes no sense.
So the next day, I was sulking, but that was to be expected. He and I usually have an awkward, distant, sulking day after a huge fight. Eventually we always come around like nothing happened. Only this time, when I tried to come around, there was a serious problem. I have always touched his face a lot as a form of affection. It's just one of our things, I guess. Whenever we would relax at home together, I would almost always massage his face with my fingers, tracing his brow and his beard line, around his mouth, massaging his forehead, etc. Whenever we greeted, I would always instantly reach for his face and cup his cheek in my hand, massaging his jaw line for a little bit.
But the day after our fight, our sulking make up day, when I went to greet him, I could not reach for his face. It didn't feel right anymore. I felt like it would be wrong of me to touch his face. All I could think about were these alleged lost memories of me smacking him. Since I have no memory of smacking him, when I imagine it while looking at him, I have no idea what it would actually be like. So all I can come up with is what it feels like to just touch his face, and now it feels wrong. I don't like it anymore.
This is very, VERY similar to the way I feel when I relapse. I used to enjoy food, but then I ended up feeling guilty when I reached for it, like it was wrong of me to eat. And that very day I relapsed. I had nothing but water all day. Today I ate some strawberries, and it was alright, but right now we have Chinese takeout on its way, and I am filled with dread. I feel like if I eat it, I will have committed a terrible act, the same way I feel about touching his face now.
I will probably eat it, and then purge it all up right away. That's how it usually goes.
Have you ever been accused of something in a relationship that you could not remember?
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Nope.
It sounds like this post was written in anger. Regardless of the situation now, maybe you would both benefit from trying to end these explosive arguments positively. As in you both apologize, say you love each other, and agree on some goals to correct whatever problems you discussed.
Also, since you will never really know if you hit him or not, I would suggest apologizing again. Explain that you don't remember doing it, but that you love him and are sorry for it and that you don't want to hit him again. If you really hit him then you need to apologize and if he is lying then he is obviously looking for some kind of sympathy and acknowledgment of his suffering in the relationship. So, it's like a win-win situation.
What...I really have no idea what to say. If you've ever had bad memory in the past, it's likely you did do it, or it's possible he has bad memory. Sometimes weeks after having a dream, I won't be able to remember if what happened was in that dream or reality.
What does ED mean?
@ViciousGrin63@xanga - Eating Disorder
@fadedconfessions@xanga - Oh.
@ViciousGrin63@xanga - it stands for eating disorder.
encourage your boyfriend to communicate better, because you didn't know but you had the right to. and also let him know that you truly don't remember hitting him, and to tell you when he feels that he is being abused.
also, does he know about your eating problems? you should tell him, so he can support you instead of maybe feeling like your starving yourself to make -you- the victim rather than him. which i know is not the case, but he might think that way
i hope everything works out.
@PenaltyLife@xanga - Oh...
You might have actually hit him in your sleep... I do things in my sleep sometimes that my mom or friends swear I was awake for but I was actually sleeping. The subconscious does crazy things. And any anger you have, if your bottling it up like this could be making it's way out in other ways, acting out in your sleep, your ed... Even thought it's easy to forget things, I think it would be pretty hard to forget intentionally slapping someone several times unless you were blind with rage. But, neither here nor there. ;)
<3.
Could you have been dreaming at night and hitting him cuz then that would explain why u don't remember.
Nope, for me even if I forgot for a little while, something will always trigger my memory if I have done it before. Never felt like I have amnesia, but it sounds like you feel horrible. You 2 should figure this out somehow or it will really hurt your relationship. Good luck!
This was the funniest thing ever. :D
Maybe it's just that selective memory thing.
(This is probably the worst analogy/example ever) Like the the main character from The Uninvited.
Yeah, I actually have.
I've always seen this as a more prominent problem between my S/O and I, so when I saw this post, I immediately clicked on it.
My experiences are similar to yours, except I DO tend to forget certain things that my girlfriend pays 100% attention to. You know, those "tests" that she gives me. The, "If they react this way, then it proves my point" kinda thing.
It's not always like that though. I've lost count of how many times I've said during an argument, "What? When did I do that? When did that happen?" while she confidently insisted it happened.
Because there are incidents where I am oblivious to the fact that my tiny actions mean the world to her, I always pause and think it over for a second, to weigh the possibility of me ever committing the act I'm being accused of. And then I apologize if I find that it is indeed a possibility, even though I would still have no recollection of it whatsoever.
Sometimes she's right, maybe I did do it and I just don't remember. Sometimes I'm right, maybe I didn't do it--she just took some other thing I did the wrong way.
And she does that.
Concerning your situation, as some have mentioned above, have you considered the possibility of rolling over unconsciously in your sleep? You didn't mention anything about that, but it's definitely possible.
@bananamochi@xanga - that's what i was thinking...like sleep walking....except sleep hitting.
i did once but it was just a misunderstanding because he didn't get all the information straight. so i guess i didn't do it then.
i always punch my bf. he says i'm a violent person to live with, but he says this with a smile.
it's my way of expressing myself, my anger, whatever shit is going on in my head at the time. he doesn't mind it though. i'd know straight away if he didn't like it. i'd read it in his expression. if he accused me of slapping him in the face, i probably did do it. but then again, he'd never accuse me of it. my bf's a darl<3.
Maybe he dreamt that you slapped him.....
And if it had upsetted him, he should've said something right away so you'd actually stop rather than keep doing it, eh? O_o I'd probably go NUTS if someone was so adament about me having to commit such a violent act and I have no memory of it... oy... You guys need to communicate better; that's stating the obvious I'm sure, but if he has difficulty in talking to you about something you've done or said, he should leave you little notes or something. Writing it out is a process and it's quite effective than trying to control tempers while emotions are high.
Anyways, you shouldn't avoid eating because of this thing; it's not healthy and I think he'll blame himself in seeing you like that too. +_+
I highly doubt that you slapped him at all. One time would be a possability, but he said you've done it several times. If that were the case, he wouldn't let you touch his face. When you get slapped by someone even once, you flinch until you realize it's not going to happen again. If it was happening "several times" like he says, you wouldn't have been able to touch his face for the last month. He'd be flinching every time you reached for it. After the first few hits, your brain makes a connection of "hand towards face = hit", and applies it EVERY time that person (and sometimes others) reaches for your face. Even when it's obvious that they're being affectionate.
If the two of you have been having problems like this, more than likely, he dreamt it. If the little play slaps have been bothering him and there's some other problem between the two of you, his sleeping brain probably put them together and he dreamt that you hit him. It's more plausible than you actually hitting him if he's not flinching away from your touch. Hell, my sleeping brain dreamt my husband came home and beat my stomach till I miscarried our baby because I was feeling stressed over the new baby and worried about his stress with work. It was one of the most vivid dreams I've ever had, and for a moment when I woke up, I had to really think about it to make sure it was a dream. I know without a doubt that my husband would never lay a hand on me like that (the man's never touched me in anger), so I knew it was a dream. Maybe he's unable to really tell the difference because it was a very vivid dream.
i think i will always lose in a fight because my mind thinks too slowly to fight back LOL.
but yeah, it sucks being accused of something. =/
First, those fights are the worst thing in a relationship. The best way to solve things it's to talk about it when it happens, otherwise it will just keep eating you up inside and at some point you won't be able to solve it anymore, and it can destroy your relationship.
I used to be in a relationship that worked just like yours. we would keep our problems to ourselves and suddenly we'd just blow up and throw everything at each other's face. It was terrible, because it didn't allow us to solve anything at all. You get lost and you don't know in which problem to focus, and the mess prevails. Right now I'm on another relationship and we're used to deal with things when they happen, so that we can move on and never think of it again. But that's not why you're seeking help and if this kind of relationship works for you, great!
About being accused of something you don't remember doing: it's possible that you do it and don't remember. You think you would remember something as weird as slapping him, but if it happens in a moment of anger maybe your brain doesn't even compute what you're doing. It seems strange, but it's possible. Sometimes we do things that don't seem like us, but they're done in distress and if we don't even pay attention to them, we cant remember them. It seems like you love him very much, and if you've slapped him I'm sure you didn't meant to hurt him. That may also contribute to forgetting it, because if you did it with no armful intentions, the need of hurting him does not exist in your mind, therefore you don't believe you might have done it.
Finally, and most probably, he took a situation that really happen and as time went by the grief he had inside him made him create a whole new version of the story. I'm not talking about delusions - but when we hold a strong feeling inside of us we tend to create reasons to hold on to it.
Try to pay attention in the future and avoid doing it again (IF you have actually ever done it)! :)
@sozpa@xanga - No kidding, me and my boyfriend have those kind of fights all the time. where he likes to get in my head and manipulate me, He will say i've done things that i haven't done and i will sit there and ponder about it. then when i deny ever doing anything he tells me that i think im perfect and i don't do anything wrong. so i'm sitting there confused. plus my brain doesn't work fast enough to come up with a way to defend myself and when i say somehting wrong he has done its like i'm the bad guy. oh and he says that i am just trying to get the attention off of me. so yea i know how you feel. i dont like a guy to rule or overpower me, but somehow it always works out that i am the one tucking my tail and running while he is still barking. so he ends up the alfa male....but i would not say anything. be perfect! so then he has nothing to fight at you about. thats what i do. and if i do something wrong i apologize with puppy dog eyes and that makes him feel bad :)
I think that he accidently accused you of slapping him.. But then once you mentioned that you didn't remember .. He then remembered you didn't do it but didn't want to lose in the fight so he then just said that those playful slaps offended him.