Saturday, 27 June 2009

  • The Harry and Sally Predicament

    Can men and women ever be just friends?  Harry and Sally answered that question with a solid NO! and a screaming fake orgasm at a diner table.

    But seriously, can we?

    I mean, it's a bit ridiculous to assume that just because two people are of opposite sex that they HAVE to fall in love.  That "hanging out" must mean dating and if a girl smiles at a guy that means she wants to fuck him.

    I've run into this predicament countless times.

    Maybe I should start being mean, that seems to be the only way not to give guys the wrong idea.

    Problem is, I'm nice.  I get along with people well, I'm happy in social situations, and I tend to get along with guys way better than girls.  In fact, I'm kinda scared of girls, what with their bitchy attitudes and long fingernails that some of them hope to scratch me with in a cat fight one day. 

    But I meet a guy somewhere, we talk, and then I mention my boyfriend and his eyes get big and he says, "I didn't know you had a boyfriend," in a very obviously annoyed tone.  As if I'm gonna tell everyone I meet upon first glance, "Hey I have a boyfriend and if you're getting any ideas forget them."  It's not like these guys took me out; I meet them in class, or they're old childhood friends, or I meet them in the bar while my boyfriend is there, singing karaoke.

    That reminds me of the time me and my lover were sitting across from each other at that very bar, with a group of people.  Some guy with really weird teeth sat across from me and started talking to us.  He introduced himself to my BF, then turned to me and said, very drunkenly, "Hi, I'm Bryan, I'll just call you boobs.  Hi boobs!"  and shook my hand.  Obviously I was a little surprised and laughed...he had no idea the guy sitting next to him was my boyfriend.  This guy proceeded to kiss my hand and that was it, we started laughing and as he left the table my bf kept teasing me about it.

    Anyway, some of my guy friends even knew I had a BF and kept trying to get me to do things with them.  Or saying things which implied they liked me.  Does this mean I avoid males in general?  The only ones who don't act like this are ones I avoid or my boyfriend's friends.  This would be a great situation if i were single, but I'm not, and if talking to a guy is leading him on, maybe I should just say "I have AIDS" before it goes too far.

Comments (23)

  • pillowpixies@xanga

    I think most people would easily understand what you mean, I know I do. I avoid guys in general for this reason, and my boyfriend typically avoids females for this very reason as well. Somehow if you're a nice person you're going to make someone think you like them.

  • presque_la@xanga

    Yes, they can be friends. I have male friends I'd never want to date or have any romantic entanglements with. 

  • Passionflwr86@xanga

    I've never really had male friends that I didn't end up being interested in or vice versa (and sometimes we ended up dating.) So... in my limited experience (I've had romantic relationships with five men, thus far), I don't think men and women can just be "friends" without some form of sexual awareness. Acquaintances, sure. Friends ... or especially good friends... doubtful.

  • buddy71@xanga

    i have female friends that i do not want to be romantic with.


    so i say "yes" you can have friends of the opposite sex

  • sozpa@xanga

    I have guy friends that I'd never want a relationship with. In fact, my best friend happens to be a guy and I'm perfectly fine with him being JUST my best friend =) 

  • musinuite@xanga

    I have several guy friends I'd frankly never date--though, I'm sure they don't return that sentiment, due to several very awkward situations they've put me in. I find it difficult to be friends with a guy without them wanting something more.

  • coolmonkey@xanga

    AIDs is going a bit overboard.  Herpes will do.

  • C0ll33Ncorps@xanga

    If your friends are still trying to hit it when they know you have a boyfriend, find some friends who will show you some respect.

    Most of my friends are guys, so, yes.

  • joycemiles@xanga

    I have a best friend that is a guy ( I have lots of best friends- very trustworthy people!), and we think each other more like siblings than anything else. We both have our SO's,so there's that. It's possible to have teally good friends of the opposite sex without them thinking you like them. I know that some guys will go after you just because your nice- it happens to both me and my boyfriend.


     Maybe you should wear a ring on your finger and they'll know

  • happyobligations@xanga

    There will always be exceptions to a rule, especially when it comes to love. I think that cardinal rule still applies in a lot of cases, though. It's happened to me too many times. Guys get close with me and I think they're just being good friends when it turns out they had other ideas the whole time. It really frustrates me when I find out my best friend turns out to just want a relationship instead of a friendship.

  • brianbsquared@xanga

    Its tough.  I've definitely been the guy who speaks in the "annoyed tone" at times when I realize the girl I am close to is taken.  But yes, I have tons of platonic relationships with females, and I extremely value the friendship I have with them because they give me tons of important advice, and are really great for bouncing ideas off of.  Also, I help them out in many ways too and am there for them when they need me.

  • Bluekiller2025@xanga

    I only have about two female friends I wouldn't want to get involed with.  But the other girls don't really care as much for me as I do for them so I just deal with it and we still are friends.

  • superGchik@xanga

    i think men and women can be friends to a certain extent but not for long, only if you guys are married can you be really good friends.  for me, the guys that i've befriended and have a really close friendship with have always been somewhat potential bf's or a bf at one point or another.  

  • xenas_shortskirt@xanga

    I have some really good friends that are guys, I'd even go as far as to call them some of my best friends. :] Nothing romantic could EVER happen between us because they are more like brothers to me, and I'm guessing I'm more like a sister to them. <3

  • PervyPenguin@xanga

    You see, that's never happened to the people I hang out with. I have a guy friends (who smack my butt when I'm walking by and tell me they love me as a joke), but we're friends. They got their girlfriends and I got my game consoles and internet. Of COURSE members of the opposite sex can be friends.

    However, it probably doesn't work if I told you I'm a lesbian and guys treat me as one of the guys.. >>

    -Kunoichi

  • mlj1981

    I don't believe it can happen. I agree with what Billy Crystal says in the movie.

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry
    Burns): You realize of course that we could never be friends.

    Meg
    Ryan

    (Sally Albright): Why not?

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): What I'm
    saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men
    and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): That's not true. I have a number of men friends
    and there is no sex involved.

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): No you don't.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): : Yes I do.

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): No
    you don't.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): Yes I do.

    Billy Crystal


    (Harry): You only think you do.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): You say I'm having
    sex with these men without my knowledge?

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry):: No,
    what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.

    Meg Ryan


    (Sally): They do not!

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): Do too.

    Meg
    Ryan

    (Sally): They do not.

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): Do too.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): How do you know?

    Billy Crystal


    (Harry):Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He
    always wants to have sex with her.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): So, you're
    saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.

    Meg Ryan

    (Sally): What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?

    Billy Crystal

    (Harry): Doesn't matter because the sex thing is
    already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of
    the story.

  • Doubledb@xanga

    I am single and still have problems with being friends with females, because they always seem to liek guys they are NOT friends with. My only way to ask them out if if I DO NOT know them it seems, because it leaves mystery or something I guess. Even a guy hates to loose a friendship but I think that sometimes frinedships start with the guys intention being more, sometimes it just becomes more over time to the guy, and sometimes it will always be friendship - this is likely because they are not attracted to you that way for some reason, so I suppose underneath is is always there - I think if females would accept that they would do better. I could totally see any of my female friends asking me out, not that females normally do, but I do not think it would usprise me as much as females seemed to be suprised when a guy frineds expresses interest or asks them out.

  • Verynownow@xanga

    I think it depends on the guy and the girl. Myself, I don't think the opposite sex can remain friends, unless they are gay. I think the more time you spend with the opposite sex, the more likely that sex is going to be an issue. I have a female friend that told me that we would never have sex together. We started spending a lot of time together, and the relationship went to the next level.

  • ViciousGrin63@xanga

    Or, instead of saying you have AIDS, you could just bring up your boyfriend like you've been doing. If they suddenly don't want to be friends anymore, then you know they're just dicks.


    Or you could be a bitch.


    Which ever. It doesn't really matter.

  • mindyeat@xanga

    I always get hit on by my guy friends. I just tell them im a lesbian


  • Rebekah1234@xanga

    i am just a believer that males and females can not be just friends. it just seems that way and if it does its too good to be true.

  • wishtoremainunknown@xanga

    I have some guy friends, but sometime or another I will be attracted to them and I may daydream what a relationship would be like with him. Though, my best friend is a guy. I tell him absolutely everything. I love him, but I don't tell him that because I value his friendship. I'd rather not tell him how I feel b/c I want him happy with someone else rather than feeling awkward with me. We've been good friends for so long so... it would just be weird. Maybe females and males can be friends, but the idea of a relationship will come up. Whether the thought only lasts 5 seconds or actually happens.

  • kor_girl@xanga

    I wrote an entry regarding to this subject as a few of my buddies have repeatedly told me that even though we've established a "working friendship" in hopes that I'll date them. I don't date my friends; I make that category quite clearly and I keep it that way because it makes sense to me. *shrug* I am also like you where I get along better with guys than girls because of their ridiculous desire to be catty, bitchy and competitive about the stupidest bs. lol 

    and yes, once both parties accept that the wonderful conversational chemistry that exist betwene the two of them is purely conversational than beyond platonic....it can actually work. I have more CLOSE guy friends than CLOSE girl friends... I've always been easier in being friends with guys than girls; it's just the way I am, and there

    are

    friends who have NEVER been interested in me in that non-platonic way so I definitely think guys and girls can be friends.

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