Thursday, 18 June 2009

  • The Other Woman: Clearing Up Misconceptions

    Over the weekend I read quite a few posts on cheating... who is doing it, why, what constitutes cheating, etc.  Several of the blogs I read had to do with women who found themselves in relationships with men who were already taken.  Most people were extremely harsh on those they felt were cheating, particularly "the other woman".  I have something to say about that.

    Bull S***.

    Everyone wants to blame The Other Woman and people seem to forget there is a whole second person involved.  Do you really think that TOW seduced the man unwillingly?  That he was sweet and innocent and she was Delilah in a short skirt come to steal Samson's power?

    I guarantee you that man was looking.  He did not accidentally stumble into this new relationship.  He has something missing in his marriage, whether something he legitimately needs or something he merely selfishly wants, and he went looking for a way to fill it.

    Let me clear up a few other misconceptions about TOW.

    First, she isn't always a slut-faced man eater looking for a relationship to break up.  I have been, and often wish I still were, TOW, but if you were to meet me in real life, you would be shocked to know that.  If you passed me on the street tomorrow, you would never guess that the middle-aged soccer mom in workout pants and tennies is someone you should probably not leave your husband with.  I guarantee that if you took 95% of my friends and held a gun to their head and told them to choose which one of their friends cheats on their husbands, they would never ever ever choose me.  Not in a million years.

    I am ordinary, quite plain actually.  I have one of those faces that makes people say "you look just like someone I know."  I dress modestly.  I am extremely conservative in politics and personal practice.  My kids get good grades and are in Boy Scouts and sports.  My husband has a good job and is well respected in his professional circles.  Nobody would EVER guess about my secret life.

    I guarantee you cannot identify The Other Woman, or even a cheater in general, by their outward appearances.

    Second, she may or may not want exclusivity with the new guy.  I realize that some women are looking for Mr. Forever.  I would suggest to them that they will probably not find it in a married man.  Others of us, however, are not looking for a permanent exclusive relationship, but rather for a long term way to fill the emptiness.  I never wanted Orange to leave his wife.  In fact, I've never wanted any of them to leave their wives or girlfriends for me.  That's not what I was looking for.  What I wanted was someone to make me feel sexy and desirable, and yes, maybe even loved.  I already had a husband though, and I certainly didn't want another.

    Third, she gains something from that relationship that you will never understand.  This is a paragraph I wrote some time ago in a private journal:

    There is something strangely satisfying about being The Other Woman.  Knowing that he has no obligation to come back to me, but does so time and again, simply because he wants to, because he craves me, because I fulfill him in ways his wife doesn’t.  There’s an eroticism to the knowledge that he ought to be running away from me but that he can’t help himself.  And in knowing that if he merely wanted sex, he could get that anywhere, but with me he gets something else, something more.  That I am not only the one who gets him hard, but that I am the one he calls when he is sad, or lonely, or wants to escape.  That I am not just a secretary and a wife and a housekeeper and a free babysitter, but I am his.

    I am not advocating you start a relationship like this, but I am reminding you that you cannot know another person's experiences until you walk in their shoes.  So quit telling her to just change it, because she probably isn't going to.  She likes what she is getting, and she's going to keep doing it.

    There are lots of us out there: mistresses, side dishes, the other women.  You probably work with one or live next to one or hang out on weekends with one and you don't even know it.  Before you start throwing stones, maybe you should try a little understanding. 

    Do you honestly think it could never happen to you?   Do you truly believe you could never become TOW? 

Comments (672)

  • MangoWOW@xanga

    It can happen to anyone I'm sure. But it doesn't stop me from thinking you're a total whore. Regardless, I feel there is no sympathy for either party. He shouldn't be cheating on his wife and you shouldn't be helping him to cheat on his wife. I don't give two shits about how he makes you feel because in my book its wrong, and I hope karma comes to bite you on the ass. But then again its not my life and I'm not going to beat you down for it.
    Last summer I was (unknowingly) the other woman. This guy had told me from the beginning (and later on when I questioned him after becoming suspicious) that he was single and I believed him. It turns out he was actually dating one of my old high school friends. The moment I found out I told her everything and I felt so horrible. For at least a week I would start crying out of nowhere and I felt like vomiting the whole time. I felt horrible for what I had done, even though I knew it wasn't entirely my fault.Even today, if I decide to lay down and think about it, I start feeling sick all over again.

  • chayswag@xanga

    Um, I'd slap a bitch. 

    It's pretty pathetic that you find pleasure in knowing that your advocating a married/taken man's cheating. 



    "First, she isn't always a slut-faced man eater looking for a relationship to break up."

    Oh, so she doesn't know that he's married? Doesn't know he's taken? And to be honest, that little snippet from a private diary sounded pretty slut-faced to me. 

    "Second, she may or may not want exclusivity with the new guy. "

    Dear god. I suppose the spread of STDs is your forte? 

    "In fact, I've never wanted any of them to leave their wives or girlfriends for me. "

    Somehow I doubt that. I also doubt that you'd feel "sexy and desirable" if, after you had sex with him, he kind of had that disgusted look and realized that you weren't what he was looking for after all- so it seems pretty logical to think that, yeah, you wanted him to keep coming back again and again. That usually leads to a breakup/divorce. 

    "That I am not just a secretary and a wife and a housekeeper and a free babysitter, but I am his."

    Wow. Um, no, you're none of those things- you're a whorebag. You have to bang another woman's man to feel good about yourself. 

    "Do you honestly think it could never happen to you?"yes. "Do you truly believe you could never become TOW? "yes. 
  • KassieintheSkywithDiamonds@xanga

    I've been TOW in a sense. He liked and pursued me while going out with a long distance girlfriend but I refused to have any relationship beyond friendship with him until he ended it with her. I don't think you should do anything with a guy regardless of who seeked who out unless he's completely single.

  • Passionflwr86@xanga

    I'm... oddly intrigued by seeing the "flip side." I don't agree with it - but it's intriguing none-the-less... and I do appreciate you sharing it (seriously.)

  • raiyaya@xanga

    in a sense, i guess u'r right.

  • xourlastendeavorx@xanga

    Well if I dress in drag... Bahahaha sorry jokes aside, I don't think of myself capable of cheating really, my honor is loyalty. I'm quite honest, but I am also a realist and reality dictates circumstances and how we chose to do what we do. I hold no bias for you =)

  • Mangonese@xanga

    I love this post. Thank you.

  • whitetrashpoet@xanga

    This is a good post. I've been the other woman. But frankly didn't care, because his "woman" was sleeping around all over town, the physical part of their relationship was over, and they'd decided to officially end things when their lease was over. Whatever, we started dating before that time. And that stupid bitch had the nerve to call ME the whore, when at least I was attempting a relationship, not just out getting some strange.

    Regardless, after that shitstorm, our relationship blossomed, and I married the guy. And no, I don't cheat on him, and he doesn't cheat on me. It was a bad situation that turned into something good.

  • blufrogz37@xanga

    @MangoWOW@xanga - considering what you wrote about the poster, and what you said about being (unknowingly) the other woman.... I think you should learn to forgive her, and more importantly, yourself. You don't have to result to name calling. And if you never learn forgiveness, that's a hard lesson to be bitter about.
    I don't see where it's anybody's business what happens to married people's relationships or their cheating. It's rather moot, after all. Isn't It???

  • bmrowland@xanga

    @chayswag@xanga - @MangoWOW@xanga -  You guys almost disgust me, reading your comments.  They are cold hearted and rude.  There is such a thing as a polite disagreement.  This woman is probably not proud of her second life, I don't know many people who are proud of being TOW.  She was opening up and being honest and sharing herself with us.  Sure, I'm not exactly fond of her choices, and no, I feel no sympathy for her decisions, but I respect that this is how she finds some sort of happiness.  I respect her honesty, sure, it's not to her husband, or their wives, but it's to herself.


    Why don't you two try being in relationships where you are missing some sort of factor that drives you insane, that makes you hate who you are and what you have chosen for yourself.  She finds some peace of mind, some freedom in being in affairs, and although it's not what you and I may think are healthy choices, it might be the only thing that keeps her going sometimes.  It's obvious she still loves her family, because she stays... she however must feel like she's missing passion and love in her life... and you guys know that this is what many women thrive on.


    Beautiful post.


    I'm not trying to be offensive to you two, Chay and Mango, I'm trying to tell you two that you're being harsh and cruel, and in essence, kicking a person while they are down.  Your responses are exactly why some people refuse to open up to other people.

  • MangoWOW@xanga

    @bmrowland@xanga - She seems pretty proud of her choices to me. And you want to know what I do in a relationship that feels unfulfillable? I leave it. I'm not kicking her down. In fact, I said I wasn't going to beat her for it. She gave her honest view and I gave mine, that she's a whore. It's pretty simple. 

  • doLc3@xanga

    TOW should only be forgiven/respected/not hated if they didn't know he was taken.

  • XDaemonessX@xanga

    While I have a hard time comprehending what kind of person comes onto/flirts with/sleeps with etc. a married man, I understan thier are certain circumstances where it just can't be helped.  This doesn't change my opinion of the other woman, I still hate her and I always will.  I've been TOW too, and I was disgusted with myself for even thinking about doing it.  I only did it once, and I will NEVER EVER do it again. 

  • MangoWOW@xanga

    @blufrogz37@xanga - It's no ones business until you post it on an open forum for people to discuss and comment it. I can eventually forgive myself because I didn't know I was the other woman. However she knows perfectly well that she's messing around with a man who is taken and that she might end up hurting his SO/wife. She  enjoys the fact that he's going behind his back for her. It's a self esteem boost and that's pretty disgusting in my eyes. I'm not going to fight about this. I gave my view: I said in my eyes she was a whore and thats it. 

  • la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga

    I could never be satisfied knowing that I was just a booty call.

    I could see myself having a one-time sort of thing with a taken guy.
    I could see myself unintentionally starting something with a guy who didn't tell me he was taken.
    I could never see myself being dependent for my self-esteem on someone who clearly only wanted my body, and not even that all the time.

  • SliverLines@xanga

    I like this post. I've been there and I understand it COMPLETELY!

    @MangoWOW@xanga - sometimes it has nothing to do with self esteem. by even suggesting such a thing would make it seem that we're completely proud to be the other woman. which is not true. some of us (with maybe the tiniest bit of morals) feel bad for her and want to tell her but at the same time. We like him. We want him. It doesn't boost our self esteem. HOw is that even a self esteem boost if he doesn't even leave her?

  • MangoWOW@xanga

    @SliverLines@xanga - Because he keeps coming back to you behind her back, thats how. She even says it right there in that snippet from her other journal. If you werent proud then I would guess that you'd be ashamed? Why would you stay in a situation where you were ashamed when it's not mandatory to be there? Because you like it. 

  • anonymous

    some men actually desire to escape with sociopat/two-faced evil soccermoms that is hilarious and a sign of the times I'll never be the other woman because I'm not giving him the satisfaction of having his cake and eating it, too lol these cheaters are pros at manipulation and TOWs are falling for their player game if you feel that you aren't wrong, then why don't you send a letter to his wife justifying all of the misunderstandings

  • jeezshoua@xanga

    He held more responsibility toward his wife because he was obligated "till death due us part" to be faithful and loyal to her.  On the other hand, the other woman also played a part when she known full well that he is a married man.  At the end, both are to blame unless the other woman was hidden in the dark the whole entire time but then, that would be a different story to tell.

    Not only are you enjoying the thrill of being the other woman, you are also cheating on your husband and letting that douche bag cheat with you on his wife.  

    Is it worth your self respect, dignity, and self worth just to have someone makes you feel sexy, desirable, and maybe even loved when he has a wife by his side and you have a husband by your side?  I honestly KNOW it could never happen to me because unlike you, I have morals and I respect people and their partners.

    But hey, if you want to be the other woman, by all means, go for it!  It's just not my style and I don't row like that.  If I'm not happy or feel empty in a relationship, I leave.  I don't seek other men to make me feel.. wanted.

  • caminjammers@xanga

    it's nice hearing this from you... but the way you contrast being satisfied by something that would obviously cause someone else so much pain to your ordinary, sweet, typical soccer mom front with great kids and a nice husband is kinda lame. you make yourself sound fake. it's kinda disgraceful that your friends would never guess this stuff. the stranger example doesn't say much.. but your own friends, they have no idea who you really are or what? i just think it's fake and a bit ridiculous. i don't do the whole cheating thing. i wouldn't want it done to me, it doesn't sound fun, and to be honest i'd be a complete baby about it. 

    @bmrowland@xanga - hmm did you really expect this to pull everyones heart strings? get real.

    @chayswag@xanga - LOL hero status chelsea.

  • akarui_mitsukai@xanga

    I truly believe I could never become TOW. I have set my mind to that end, and when I set my mind, I always live up to it, one way or another. I rarely fully set my mind on things, but this is one of those things. I try to avoid situations that could ever lead to this kind of craziness. I love my honey, and would never do a thing like this. That is my personal decision and determinant.


    Being the change I hope to see in the world,


    ~*Akarui Mitsukai*~

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  • FreeeVerse@xanga

    I never want to be TOW. And I hope to God I am NEVER EVER proud of it, if I ever became TOW. *Shudders*

  • pillowpixies@xanga

    I've never considered it only the other womans fault. There is infact a man cheating there. It's hard to forget. But there are plenty of women who DO come onto married men WILLINGLY. Men who are taken are very appealing to a lot of women because that shows that they're able to commit. It's like a message being transmitted to their brain from the mans wedding ring. Sure, he goes along with it. I'm not excusing that whatsoever. But I'm not going to excuse what the other woman does, either, just because she's not the only one doing it. It takes two to tango, and in this case, both are equally guilty. Even if the other woman doesn't find out he's in a relationship until later, she's still the other woman. Even so, she has the choice to tell his wife or girlfriend and help someone else, rather than be.. uh, that. I'm not excusing the cheater, or the person that they cheat with.

    I knew that the "other women" come in many forms. Whomever thinks that they only come looking like whores needs a reality check.

    Also, I think that little paragraph you included in italics made me dislike those women even more. I understand what you're saying, I can even go out on a limb and say that I understand how they feel. It's human nature, I've said that in other posts. When you find someone and you develop feelings for them, you're not going to want to let them go. That, however, is selfish. Luckily, being selfish is something humans are extraordinarily good at.

    I know very well that these women won't change it. Like you said, they're getting something out of the situation or they wouldn't remain in it. That's not going to make me really care for them, however. I'm far too into honesty to be able to respect women like that very much. I'm always going to think about the wife. The other woman gets an ego high from knowing that this man, married, comes to her for things his "wife can't provide"; meanwhile his wife probably has no idea what's going on. I'll feel sorry for the wife, not the other woman. Some wives do bring it on, because they don't want to change even when their husbands ask them to; but there are many wives in these situations who don't even know anything is wrong.

    So, I'm disgusted by the cheater and the other woman both.

    Anyway, as for the questions at the end; I do believe that I will never be "the other woman." If he's cheating on his wife, he's a piece of shit. I absolutely will not be romantically involved with a piece of shit. I would also not lower myself to that level, and I do think it would be lowering for me, because I want a guy who can commit to me and only me. Not me and his wife. There are plenty of reasons not to be the other woman.

  • Shopgirl0393@xanga

    interesting post--i appreciate the honesty but would have to disagree with what you seem to be implying. personally, the only way i'd become a TOW is if i didn't know he was already in another relationship..but usually you can tell. anyone who purposely and knowingly becomes a TOW does not deserve respect, in my opinion.

    just as you say we can't understand TOWs unless in their shoes, think of the girlfriends, wives, children and other loved ones' shoes and how the actions of the cheater and the TOW would affect ALL of them. is it really worth the feelings it brings..sacrificing multiple others in the process?

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