Sunday, 14 June 2009
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Am I Being Emotionally Abused?
I'm 20 and I'm about to be a junior in college. My parents moved six hours away in September, but I stayed here in St. Louis for three reasons: It was the beginning of my sophomore year, I didn't want to leave my friends, and I had a new boyfriend that I was head-over-heels in love with.So here I am. I had to get a job and move out into an apartment. It's been expensive, and I usually only have $50 a month to spend on food and fun. I manage, because I have a grandma who gives me things like rice and canned food so I don't have to shop a ton.
After a month, I saw most of my friends once every couple of weeks, if that. Some I didn't see at all, because I had to work and go to class. My boyfriend, however, I still made time for. We've been together for ten months.
Here's the problem.
He was raised in the suburbs, his dad makes six figures, he lives at home, and he has a car. I don't have a car, I was raised in trailer parks until I was 15, and my dad barely makes five figures. Plus I have two Autistic brothers. I always thought I was doing pretty well considering, managing to make enough to pay $450 in rent every month.I'm poor, but he thinks to have a functional relationship we need to do "couple" things like go to the movies and out to eat. Okay, fine. However, he expects me to pay for half of it and because I can't, he often talks about how we are in different places in our life, as well as how much he spends on me. For example, he is taking me to get a phone charger today. I am paying him back after I get my paycheck tonight, but I asked him for a specific time of when we would get my charger. He said that if I expected him to adhere to a strict schedule, that I should be paying him, because he is looking for a job.
He is nice to me usually, but anytime we get into an argument (usually, I admit, caused by me flying off the handle about something small), he blows up at me and lectures me or rants for sometimes up to an hour about things I make pay for and how much I rely on him. When we get into arguments, they usually end with me apologizing profusely and him needing space. But it's occurred to me that half the time, he should be doing the apologizing. And if not, why is he even with me, if I cause so much trouble? He says I'm clingy and needy, but this is who I've been for almost the whole year we've been together.
He tells me things I should do with my hair, he is often trying to convince me to buy clothes from stores like Urban Outfitters or H&M. He buys clothes from there monthly. He makes fun of the hair on my thighs and he tells me I should exercise more. He complains about how cluttered my room is and he jokingly calls me a slob. Typing all of this makes it seem like I know the answer already, but oftentimes I wonder that, if it's warranted, is it abuse? If I really should be cleaning up my room more, if I let the dishes go too much, if I depend on him too much to get around, is this all my fault? He doesn't hit me, just makes fun of me jokingly (I think). Mostly about how much I eat or how I look.
I am always crying, but I don't know if it's because I cry easily or because he is genuinely hurting me - I've always been a crier. Am I doing it to manipulate him, or am I being abused? Anytime I cry when we're about to go somewhere public, he tells me to stop because people will see me.
I have said we should break up a number of times. At first he coaxed me out of it, now he goes between saying that's a bad idea and asking what I would do if I wasn't with him. It's true, I don't know. My dad was laid off in April so my family can't really afford to take me in with them, and when I'm in a tight place he usually bails me out. He really is there for me anytime I need him, but at the same time I'm often wondering if I'm hurt too much to stay with him. It drives me nuts imagining moving six hours away and never seeing him again, but he drives me nuts, too.
Am I being emotionally abused, or is this how most relationships are?
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It doesn't sound emotionally abusive but he sounds controlling. I say take a break from him and do some soul searching. Find out who you are without him before deciding on whether or not to get back together. And when/if you do get back together make it clear that you are who you are and that unless it's hurtful he has no right to tell you how to run your life. Find out what you would consider the boundaries of what are acceptable comments for him to make and when he crosses your lines you let him know. No if and or buts, either he respects you and your boundaries or he can continue being a controlling ass on his own.
btw, and this is totally off topic: I love your default pic. And I love that Helga is there. lol
I don't think I'd call it officially "abuse" but I will say it doesn't sound like a healthy, positive relationship... based solely on what you shared. I'm aware that there are always two sides to every story and so I'm hesitant to make a "blanket statement" ... but if I were in a relationship as such, I think I would start looking for someone else - or consider some time by myself, before starting another relationship. It doesn't sound "horrible" - but it doesn't sound good, either.
I'd call that controlling. and him making you pay for half when HE wants to go out sounds a bit ridiculous. I don't think it's a very healthy relationship.
No, it's not a healthy relationship.
You're doing your thing. You support yourself, basically. And I definitely commend you for that and you should be sooo proud of yourself. The only reason why he's helping you anyway is because he's living off of his PARENT'S money. Let me repeat that: It's not his money that he's flaunting. OH! And he doesn't have a job? Ha. He shouldn't be telling you anything.
And make that clear if he says something to you about your living situation again. "The second you move your pathetic ass out of your mama and daddy's house and start paying for your OWN shit, is when you can start bitching about MY life."
I know that if this thing that's bothering you is brought to his attention and he changes those habits ... the relationship can work.
I'm a crier too, and I know that I get pretty emotional, but I know where the line is between me overreacting and the other person is being straight up mean, and that's when I address the issue. Address this issue. :)
And dammit. I wish that apartments costed $450/month. In FL semi-decent ones go for $950 and up.
Yes he is being abusive. And hes trying to be sly as he does it. No, this is not how most loving relationships are, this is how most abusive relationships are.
He should understand your current financial situation and he should want to work with it. As a guy who never expects to be paid back for anything I buy the girl I'm with, I may be a bit biased, but if he genuinely cares about you, he should take the initiative for the "couple" activities he so desires. I'm not claiming he should break the bank every time you two go out, but he also shouldn't put the money above the relationship.
Don't waste too much time with a guy who only makes you cry, even if he is there for you some of the time. When the bad outweighs the good, it's time to go.
This is your life, don't waste it.
@lovemonkeyy@xanga - You said it perfectly!
"I had to get a job and move out into an apartment. It's been expensive, and I usually only have $50 a month to spend on food and fun. I manage ... I don't have a car, I was raised in trailer parks until I was 15, and my dad barely makes five figures ... I have two Autistic brothers. I always thought I was doing pretty well considering, managing to make enough to pay $450 in rent every month."
You are doing well. It takes incredibly hard work to get to where you are right now from what many consider poverty. If he can't see that and respect that, you should let him go. And that's only what I have to say based on half of what you addressed here.
All of this: "he blows up at me and lectures me or rants for sometimes up to an hour about things I make pay for and how much I rely on him. When we get into arguments, they usually end with me apologizing profusely and him needing space. ... He says I'm clingy and needy ... He tells me things I should do with my hair, he is often trying to convince me to buy clothes from stores like Urban Outfitters or H&M. He buys clothes from there monthly. He makes fun of the hair on my thighs and he tells me I should exercise more. He complains about how cluttered my room is and he jokingly calls me a slob"is all emotionally abusive. All of it.
I'm having the same discussion with my girlfriend right now. I love her for who she is and can't imagine that she should have to change for anyone, but her mother is constantly telling her she is ugly simply because her style isn't the kind her mother would prefer that she wear. Her ex-boyfriend did the same thing. He tried to change her, subtly, but in nearly every way. That's not love. That's not even appreciation, and certainly not adoration. In fact, I don't think that's even kind. He is concerned about his image, and his image only. (This confirms it: "Anytime I cry when we're about to go somewhere public, he tells me to stop because people will see me.") He's trying to change you so that he looks better. Yes, that's abuse. Get someone who is confident in themselves enough to appreciate you for you and leave this dirt bag in the dirt.
This is not how relationships are. From the sounds of this post, you are too good for him. However (and I hate having a however in this post because I want to see you get out of this), all signs point to you staying in this relationship because without him, you would not be able to afford your life. ("My family can't really afford to take me in with them, and when I'm in a tight place he usually bails me out.") You need to figure out what to do. Don't stay with this abusive, manipulative jerk of a boyfriend who cares more about himself than he does about you just because he enables you to afford living on your own. Your emotional health is far more important than your complete independence, imo.
Whether or not he's abusing you, this isn't a healthy relationship, and you shouldn't stay for the finances. If money really is that tight, you might qualify for work-study or other need-based financial aid from your university. Also, consider changing your living arrangements so that you're staying with friends (you didn't mention roommies). This can often help reduce the amount you pay in rent as well as create a support system.
And know that you're beautiful with hair on your thighs, without clothes from Urban Outfitters, and without running an hour a day. You've overcome adversity already and you're making the choice to have a bright future. Don't let anyone take the joy out of that for you.
Wow. that's pretty intense.. I am a crier too. haha I think i'm too emotional... but my boyfriend doesn't make fun of me just because I can't pay for a lot of things (sadly I'm kind of not rich) and is right beside me- to help and encourage me. I mean, if we fight, its like about something else- not money or whatever. Maybe you should talk to your boyfriend about this.
he seems to want someone on the same level as him. he wants someone independant. get more hours at work. but also he seems to not accept u for who u are. dont let n e man tell u what to do how to dress and how u should look and to lose weight. love urself....respect urself...and others will love u and respect u too.
He's emotionally abusing you. He is controlling you by keeping you insecure about yourself. You should be with someone who makes you feel beautiful and valued. Also, if a man knows your financial situation and is penny-pinching, he doesn't want to share his money let alone his life with you. I say cut all loses and move on.
@Lordv16@xanga - I wholeheartedly agree.
And I'd probably try not to get financial assistance from him either, because in the end, (what it seems like) he kinda holds it against you."Oh, since I'm paying for this, you should be on MY time." BULL-SHIT. :P
Yeah. He's definitely not treating you right. Whether he's aware of what he's doing or not, it's clear that he's selfish and inconsiderate. Part of being mature includes understanding other people's situations and understanding that not everything can go your way all the time.
So give him the boot. You deserve better.
@lovemonkeyy@xanga - Great comment. Right on.
@Lordv16@xanga - Your comment was right on as well. Extremely well said.
@Lordv16@xanga - I think I was a bit bitchy, but I tried to get the point across :)
@xthread@xanga - Thank you :)
You deserve better.
@lovemonkeyy@xanga - I agree 100% with you. :)
This is a saying my grandma once told me:
a guy who is worth your tears will never make you cry
If he really cares for you the way that he says then he should be expecting you to be paying half of everything every time, because he knows how you are trying to support yourself and you hardly make enough. He sounds really controlling and it doesn't seem like abuse much to me...but it will get there one day if you stay with him. His "joking" will start becoming more and more serious.
I don't think you have a very healthy relationship and I would say move on from him, find someone who will treat you like the princess you are. It is hard especially when you love someone, I know, but sometimes the hardest things are the best things.
So if you do decide to end things with him (because he is not treating you the way you are suppose to be treated) then you can let him pull you back in. It will be hard, but maybe when he knows you're serious it might open his eyes.
I'll just say, you know how he makes you feel. And you don't like it.
@xXsammiedollXx@xanga - Agreed. This "joking" will get worse and then he'll start to feel as if he "owns" you, and you don't want that for you.
Lose him.it sounds like you are strong girl! but he is a weak man for treating you like nothing. a few years ago i was in a relationship where the guy was constantly trying to fault me, but he had far more issues than i did, but was too prideful to change or admit them.i cried more than i ever did when i was left him, my friends told me i was a better person when i was without him, and one day i couldn't take it anymore and walked away. as nice as it is to have a boyfriend to spend time with, you will find yourself much happier with someone who doesn't suck the joy outta your life. you seem like a hard working girl, you should be with someone you can relax and be yourself with. i'm sure your friends miss you sooo be with the people who truly love you as you are. as finances go, life has a way of working out unexpectedly so don't let that stop you from living a better life and who knows, a guy will someday come along who will love you whether you don't wear all the hip clothes or have the time to pick up you apartment. good luck girl!
@lovemonkeyy@xanga - "The second you move your pathetic ass out
of your mama and daddy's house and start paying for your OWN shit, is
when you can start bitching about MY life."
I love that line, because it is so extremely true!
@xXsammiedollXx@xanga - It kind of is, because ... the money is technically not his, and he's still rubbing it in her face, and it's not right.
that is not how most relationships are. if i were you, i would leave. just get out before it gets any worse. before you know it, it could become physical. it's going to be hard to get on your feet and become financially stable, but consider staying with extended family if you have to or if you can, or a close friend, just for awhile until you're on your feet again. don't stay with him because you feel like you have nowhere else to go, especially if he treats you like that.