Right, because women are sooo masochistic that way.

I don't believe it's about knowing what we do or do not want.  It's about self-esteem and a sense of belonging.  Some people don't realize their self-worth, and sometimes become trapped in a terrible relationship.  Some people just need attention or recognition, and therefore take any attention they can get.  I suppose if you twist that in a certain way, it becomes about knowing what they want.

And some guys might feel the need to explain themselves in order to boost their own self-esteem.  I don't know.  I'm not a boy.  Haha.

All guys and girls have their different stages on how they feel about the opposite sex. I recently had a talk with my close friends. I was at shock just saying out loud the events that had occurred to me.
A girl that I don't like, that I am totally miserable to, likes me. I always questioned why? One night when I was intoxicated and she was sober as a "Catholic girl on Easter Sunday". She stuck by me all night while I was trying to avoid her. It was bad, because I had no intentions of doing what I did that night. I took her virginity, regretfully. And now she hates me, because I cant look at her the same. I tried to avoid that so we can maintain what was left of our friendship. So, my answer to your second question ("And do you, men, really think that? ") I say yes, because I'm sure a lot of girls want to get married and find that perfect husband material, but you dont go out there thinking like that when youre with guy friends. You girls are attracted to the obnoxious and confident douchebags. (I am obnoxious, loud and confident, sadly but for my own personal reasons, not to impress others) and then when you get with these guys, you expect them to be husbands. You ask for drama, which you know leads to pain but I guess you dont want to admit it, or you think due to certain events, you can change everything, as if youre superwoman.

Now at the same time, I have a girl that I am in love with. She likes
me too but when things get difficult and she wants to just drop
everything between us, I feel the need to explain myself. Like "hey, I'm here, and no matter what problems comes between us, I want us to tackle it together. I want you to know, I'm the one for you." It takes a lot out of us to say it when we really mean it. Now I know my own faults and call me a hypocrite, but I want to be a girl's superman and save her. I love this girl and she tells me it wont work out due to college life and such. But I want to be superman and change that and prove her wrong.

Both sexes can flip flop these situations. It just matter of time. I think at certain points in one's life, they just want to get out there in the game and experience and mingle but at the same time, they want a spouse. Thats very hard. To play a game filled with players and then finding Mr. Perfect.

Try different tactics ladies. Then maybe us guys will think differently. Oh, the movie He's just not that into you, is funny and can really help relate to these questions.

Few people of either gender know what they want

it's not that women want to be abused, they just want to be respected.  we don't want a man who will let us get away with whining, and at the same time we want a man who will show concern.  The problem, i think is that there's this illusion that it has to be black or white.  A guy has to be either an asshole or too damn sweet.  We see this everywhere, no? the good guy, bad guy act.  the sensitive guy vs the asshole.

and then there's the timing, i don't know why the timing is usually off.. and why us women are hardly ever straight forward, and why men can't be more thoughtful. 

i think that women who want men to abuse them, either came out of an abusive background, or are tired of dating men who allow them to step all over them.

It's different for everyone... I would more agree on women don't always know what they want... but they can tell you what they don't want!  No WOMAN wants a man to abuse them or any of that sort!  Some women put up with it because they "see" beyond the imperfections and truely see "him".  Yet not strong/wise enough to figure out how to stop it and change things for the better of them both! 

Men who think that women just want to be abused around are not men at all... but insecured boys who want to be men!  Thinking that hitting another woman makes them a MAN!

As a woman, I would say that most women are needy and insecure. There is some truth behind what he says, but it's a phase that most women (hopefully) grow out of.

I am a woman. I am happily married. First real relationship, right out of the starting gate.

Unfortunately for him, he had to go through a few bad relationships first, and endured a lot of "You're such a nice guy, but..."

I don't get along with most women, despite being one, because a lot of them DO give out mixed signals, and a lot of them do make (what seems to me) incredibly stupid decisions about their relationships.

I don't like when people act like a relationship just IS right or ISN'T. Love grows. Chemistry can come with time. (It did for my husband and I, because I will tell you we did not have it at first.)

Some women know exactly what they want. Or are willing to give it a real solid go to find out if that's what they want. A lot of women are fickle, say they want one thing, and when faced with the guy who has it, they go, "There's no chemistry there. I just don't see him as more than a friend." Drives me batty, and I'm not even a guy. I just have to listen to the people around me say these things.

Saying any one thing applies to all women is just silly, though. But as I'm not one of those women it applies to, it doesn't bother me all that much, since I have often thought this myself.

Why do you think we men who got friend zoned a couple of times stuck with ourselves? We are sick of women who say they are sick of men, but once one good one volunteers, they nitpick him like a Jenga block.

what it really means when a woman says that she likes to be "mistreated" is that she likes rough sex, not domestic abuse.

I guess that is some twilight zone stuff or some people are just weird.

@g0Lden_divinity@xanga - You said it.