Sunday, 29 March 2009

  • Follow-Up: The Worst Ex Ever Has Gotten Even Worse

    Awhile ago, I posted a blog about appropriate ex behavior, and I received several comments telling me how much of a douchebag my boyfriend is. Well, it got worse!

    I confronted Dan with my issues. I told him that I couldn't handle his hanging out with A, the girl he cheated on me with. I told him that I couldn't handle his getting closer and closer to his ex-girlfriend, J. I even told him how much he hurt my feelings that he told his ex girlfriend, M, about the first time we had sex immediately after the fact and then not much later asked me to buy pot for the two of them when I was out of town for a weekend.

    What was his response? Well, he had no idea why I would be bothered by any of it. He said he doesn't even like A, yet he continues to make plans with her (to get drunk). Hey, wait a minute, Dan. Didn't you two kiss the last time you were drunk together? Didn’t you blame it on the alcohol? 

    Then he tried to deny that he told M about having sex IMMEDIATELY after. He said he did it as soon as he walked out of my door, like, ten minutes later. Buddy, I watched you do it, and the timing really shouldn't matter. What’s the difference between ten seconds and ten minutes? And, of course, with J, he doesn’t say a thing besides that there is nothing to worry about because "she likes some guy right now, anyways".

    Needless to say, I broke up with Dan. But I didn't break up with him because of all of the above reasons. I broke up with him because I now have a tumor growing inside my uterus preventing me from getting pregnant, and his response was "I can't see us ever getting married if you can/t have kids. I can stay in a long-term relationship with you, but it will be strained, and we probably won't ever get married." Goodbye, Dan.

    Then, he apologized. He called me, crying on the phone. He sent me 18 roses a couple days before my surgery to have my tumor biopsied. He visited me the day after surgery, which was about three days before Valentine's Day. On V-Day, he ignored me all day to hang out with his buddy so they could celebrate being single. Then, he decided to pick a fight with me the day after because on AIM I had put "who wants to be a Valentine to the girl on bed rest?"

    Furthermore, the only activity I could do was surf the internet on my phone while on bed rest, and I had noticed that he made friends with ALL of J's best college friends. He never made friends with MY college friends, or ANY of my friends, for that matter. And he still was talking to A the whole time, having flirty little message conversations back and forth on Xanga and Facebook.

    To make matters worse, after I broke up with Dan (again) he shared personal information with A, who he knows absolutely hates me. She has been internet stalking me ever since. This is the girl he defended to me, saying she isn't as horrible as I make her out to be. I’ve had to close down three internet accounts because of her!

    So, I am left with these burning questions:
    1. What is A's problem? How can I stop the stalking and get my life back?
    2. Will Dan always be this way, or did he just never really care or respect me at all?
    3. Why did I apologize to HIM after we broke up for telling him I hate him, because sadly, I don't hate him. Why don't I hate him? Why do I want to be friends with him? Why ARE we still friends?
    4. Do any of YOU have a story this horrible that you could possibly share? I can't possibly be the only person going through this nonsense, or can I?

Comments (32)

  • sonnigenmai@xanga

    My ex is similar to yours.  Selfish - he doesn't see your pain, he only sees how it could negitatively affect him.  My ex has hit me with a car and pushed me down stairwells, badmouthed me, taken away friends...so I can really emphasize.


    The best thing to do is ignore him.  Cut him away from you like this tumor - something that is cancerous to your life, your well-being, shouldn't be tolerated...


    M

  • aiwnt2BwreUR@xanga

    Your ex is honestly a dickweed. He's selfish, from the way it sounds, and seriously needs to get over himself.

    A is obviously insecure about something. I guess, it might have to do with the fact that 'Dan' broke it off with her... and you broke it off with Dan. Somewhere in there, I think she's mostly just curious about.. well, why? If I were in your position, I'd talk to her about it. I mean, what could it hurt? She already hates you, right? Talk to her, and maybe you can sort her out. You don't really have anything to lose, yes?

    Dan needs to grow up. He probably thought that the way he was acting was okay- I mean, he's had exes, and they seem to like him just the way he is (a selfish pig). In his mind, he probably thought he was doing good by you, where as in reality, he never really did.

    It's hard to stop caring. I mean, it's really hard. When you break it off with them, it isn't exactly as clean-cut as it sounds. It's actually rather messy in most cases. You apologized because you still cared about him- and that's something you really can't get rid of so easily. You may have also felt bad for him- he was crying, right? You don't hate him, 'cause you care. You want to be friends, 'cause you care. See where I'm going with this?

  • iheartcheesecake@xanga

    Ignoring A as best you can is important. If you never acknowledge her or her comments or whatever, she'll stop. Boo random crazy stalker girls. 

  • JessxMaxine@xanga
    A is a loser stalker bitch. If anything, she has feelings for Dan and she can't understand why Dan liked you or dates you. She must think she is better than you and is stalkering you to figure out what he liked about you.

    Stalkers are crazy. My sister gets stalked by her boyfriend's daughter's mom and her girlfriend and boyfriend.

    They are just jealous.

    Dan sounds like he needs to get dick slapped. I'm proud that you left him. Many would try and "change" him.

    Xo
  • xtine015@xanga

    Your ex is selfish and a dickhead like my ex. haha I think thats why we call them ex's.

  • Thatslifekid@xanga

    I would say drop him like a bad habit and walk away.  I try my best to get along with my exes, eventually they find a new girl-thing and disappear.  So I would say just drop him and and hang out with your girls.  They can make you feel better.  Best of luck.



  • dr52383@xanga

    leave him alone, ignore him...there are btter people out there and you wont find them if you are mooning over him all the time.  harsh but true.

  • katiwitz@xanga
    *hugs*

    Wow, and I thought my ex was bad. Seriously, kudos to you for dumping his sorry ass. You go, girl.


    As for being friends with him.. ehh, If it was me, I wouldn't be. I know with my ex, the more we talk, the more I miss him & want him back. You don't deserve that, and you can AND WILL do so much better than that douchebag.


    And A is a stupid ho who doesnt have anything better to do with her time. She's being immature. Don't let her get to you. She's prolly doing it to piss you off, and you're letting it. Don't let that ho win! :)


    Sorry to hear about your illness. I can kind of understand. Hope you get to feeling better soon!! :)

  • FillyMere@xanga

    1. A is a bitch who appears to have self-confidence issues.  If she feels she needs to learn every bit about you, she obviously wants to know what Dan likes so much about you.  Tell her to fuck off, or you will get authorities to fuck her shit up (I'm pretty sure online harrassment is a crime nowadays, if only in a few states).


    2. Dan is a miserable little jerk who also has self-confidence issues.  If he feels the need to keep so many women around that obviously still have feelings for him, then he must NEED them around to assure himself that he's not the asshole he really is for not treating you the way you deserve to be treated.
    3. You want to be friends with him because you still care about him.  It's natural.  You're probably going to care about him for a long time.  Try as hard as you can to forget him and move on.  He doesn't deserve you.  Period.
    4. I could tell lots and lots of stories about things like this, but I think this comment is already vulgar enough.  I really, honestly hope I've helped you, even if it only made you feel better a little bit.
  • UnopenedSuitcases@xanga

    as everyone else probably have said, he;s a douchebag. he won't get you and understand your worth. he's still onto his other exes, and well... you should just simply ditch him. he's not healthy for you. if a guy would say that after yout ell him you have a tumor, then he's not worth it.

  • butibabe808@xanga

    oh my goodness..u poor thing u are dealing with this asshole and recovering from surgery..this guys has no respect..



    1. A's problem is that shes just jealous of u..thats why she chooses to go and look at ur site..my ex's new GF HATES my guts..and yet i dont even know her yet she comes on all of my sites and looks at them..and then writes on her site bout me..girls like that are juss jealous and insecure bout their appearance..i say just leave ur site on..since she has no life..let her read how well u are doing.."let the haters fuckin hate..cause thats all they can do.."
    2. Im sorry to say this...if he never respected u in the first place...he probably never will..
    3.u say sorry cause u seem like a nice person and u dont want to hurt him..u say u hate him cause u hate what hes doing...u cant hate him cause u loved him..if he doesnt want to be friends u guys cant be friends..if one person doesnt want to...u cant force them...it might make them think u want to be more than friends.. 


    4. i do have some..but the worse one was my "recent one" we broke up almost 3 years ago yet the problem is still there..we went out for almost 3 years...but by the 2nd year things started to get bad..we fought everyday and i was drifting apart..so apart i started liking another guy..who is my BF now..but i felt bad and told my ex i wanted a break cause i shouldnt be in a relationship if i like someone else...he got pissed off and told me not to talk to him till ive made my choice..as i was making a decision that week he told everybody i cheated on him..so when i decided to go back with him..he told me "give me a good enough reason.." i told him one..and then he said " NO! thats not good enough!!" so this went on for awhile.. how id give an answer but for some reason it wasnt good enough...so i said " FUCK THIS! nevermind! ive reminded me of why i wanted to leave!" 2 days later he expected me to get back with him..i told him no..and thats when the rest of the crazy-ness started to unfold..the people whom he told i cheat on him..started saying how heartless i was..then he told people that he broke up with me cause i didnt want to have sex with him..and he plagerized some of my poems..LOL..its been 3 years since we broke up and people still till this very day hate me because of what they heard..yet when i confronted him..he told me no i never said anything..what a prick!


    i always say everything happens for a reason..


    i hope any of these help u and i hope u are doing well..

  • ScarletMoth@xanga

    when girls really get me angry I get really, really angry and I scream things like "BITCH, I'M GOING TO COME TO YOUR ROOM AT NIGHT AND CUT YOUR THROAT!"  And it generally resolves most issues.

    he probably will always be more or less like that.   doesn't mean he doesn't care, just means he's a jerk.

    Because you're nice, you apologize.  you feel bad.  it's natural.

    i do... my ex-bf wasn't quite as jerky but he was really just tuned out to other people's feelings... like when i told him i liked him (when i had a crush on him) he told me he liked his ex (lesbian) gf.
    6 months later he decided to tell me that had actually been a lie he just hadn't wanted to admit to me that he liked me back

    then when he broke up with me, after a year of dating (things were strained so i was actually planning on breaking up with him, only i was planning on doing it in person and making sure everything was clear) he texted me a response and then the breakup out of the blue, it was like
    "hah, yeah, we were watching zombie movies.  so yeah... i think we should just be friends.  call me if you need to."

    he repented and asked if we stood a chance again later, but i was happy it was done with.

  • happyobligations@xanga

    I wish it could be quick and easy, but I think the best way to remove their behavior from your life is to remove THEM from your life completely. They are doing nothing but negatively impacting your life and especially with the tumor, you need to be stress-free or else you might have more health problems pop up.

  • irishgrrl690@xanga

    She's probably nuts. I imagine she's after Dan and has a sick obsession with you because she wants to know why you were so important (and possibly emulate you) or wants to create an image of your in her mind that will allow her to stroke her ego. Confront her. Get a phone number, and IP address, message her on FB. Tell her that you KNOW. That you think it's pathetic (or whatever you REALLY think) and that's time she grew up and moved on. Don't ever relay that you feel she's ruined your life. It sounds like she'll probably just enjoy that.

    It sounds like Dan is juggling what he wants to be and what he is/other are making him become. Check back in a few years--he may have grown up and ditched some of those friends. I imagine that part of his nature JUST DOESN'T GET IT, even though it seems as though he can have good intentions.

    He was a huge part of your life, it sounds like you've taken a lot of crap from him over the years, and you're in a vulnerable position where he is moved on and you haven't. It makes sense that you would feel at fault, fairly submissive and much more willing to be open if only to cut your losses.

    You're not, but yours is pretty bad. I've had many cases of boyfriends who ignore my wishes (pretty simple ones: don't get smashed, don't flirt with that tramp, tell your friend to stop calling me a slut and starting rumors) and who then carry on relationships with horrible people in spite of my attempts for friendship. This guy, Dan, seems like a TOTAL piece of work. I think you got pretty unlucky with him--it might be best to start without him.

  • RazorBladeParade@xanga

    1. You will never get someone to stop internet stalking. The internet has no preventative measures to protect your privacy outside of whatever the sites policies are that you use (i.e.: making profiles private, disallowing the use of your email when people search for you, etc.). UNLESS this girl starts to threaten your life and the stalking elevates, you're victim to what millions of us suffer everyday: the creepy ex lurk.

    2. He probably wasn't joking when he said he wouldn't stick if you couldn't have kids. You may want to discuss it further with him if it turns out you really won't be able to have children. But even then, why would you want to be with someone who takes the exit after you drop the "I have a life threatening tumor" line. It really has nothing to do with respect, this man is obviously suffering from brain deficiency.

    3. It's stupid to tell someone you hate them if you don't, in fact, hate them. It's stupid because you'll feel guilty about it and end up apologizing, which you will then proceed to feel guilty about since you know he deserves to be struck down by whatever gods are in existence. You may also want to question those same gods as to why you don't feel hatred towards him.

    3B. You aren't friends. Friendship requires mutual gratification, but in this case you're (I'm assuming) feeling less than satisfied with how he treats you. Stop being a doormat because you have feelings for him that resurface when he comes crying back.

    4. I don't have a story like that, but I was romantically involved with someone who would only acknowledge my existence when she wasn't being chased and chasing after someone who would inevitably treat her like crap. With two of those people, she dated them twice. I'm pretty sure everyone has their personal best "listen to this bullshit" relationship story. In all honesty, comparing war stories won't help you get away from this lifestyle you've formed with allowing this Dan creature to invade your life.

    I laugh-cried that someone said "drop him like a bad habit". You don't generally lose bad habits, which is why they come into focus in the first place. Unfortunately, your only option here is to make it clear that you can no longer stay in touch on any level. It needs to be done in a conversation that involves you both so that neither of you misunderstand what "no contact" means.

    Don't be an enabler for your own suffering.

  • pillowpixies@xanga

    1. Ignore her as best as you can. If you've got any accounts that she particularly stalks, make them private. Delete them and create new ones if you have to. They know your whole name, so don't put your whole name on those accounts if they search for you. If they lose your accounts and can't find the new ones, they'll eventually forget about it / move on / get a life. If not, you can always take it to the police; but that's only if it grows particularly burdensome.

    2. I don't think he respected you much from the beginning. Like, you told him how certain things he was doing was bothering you and he ignored that. He kept doing it, and he told you all about how it was okay, he wasn't doing anything, etc. If he actually cared, he would have automatically jumped to do something to clear it up with you. Him saying "Darling, would you like me to not talk to my x's so much?" would have sufficed.

    ---- The alcohol isn't any excuse. Alcohol only helps the person do something that they already want to do. It makes people loose, not stupid. Him wanting to get drunk around her again, even though he already knows what happened the last time, is proof of this. It's proof that he obviously saw nothing wrong with kissing another girl while with you. That, is a problem.

    ---- There's nothing to worry about because "she likes some guy now anyways"? In other words, if she stops liking that guy, he'll make a move on her?

    3. It's not healthy to hate anybody. It fills you with horrible feelings that can devour your heart. Hate is a strong word, a strong emotion, and it's foul. Definitely not something you want to be filled with. You not hating him is a good thing, because that would most likely hurt you more than it would him. Though, maybe you're still hurting from the relationship ending like that. In your last post you were talking about how Greg and you were perfect ex's. Well, in that situation you both have common sense. In this one, only you have common sense; so you can enforce the ex rule all by yourself. It's possible. It sounds like he's going to be the type to be a jerk no matter what, to never grow up. One of those exes who is either in a relationship with you, or who is gone. Go for the latter.

    4. You aren't the only one going through this mess. You're definitely not. Many women and men alike have insanely horrible exes. Luckily, I'm not one of them. I do wish you luck though, I think that you going through this is an insane form of torture.

  • ordinary_gir1@xanga

    ef that theres other fish in the sea
    i hate how he makes everything into his own little selfish soapopera that goes nowhere.

  • wolvenchic@xanga

    I definately could relate, but would prefer to talk to you in messege over my personal matters haha.

  • inverted_color_scheme@xanga

    what an ass. i just broke up with my girl. i'm hoping i dont fall into the same category as that guy. if anything, she's the bad ex. shes already talked trash about me to all of her friends, some of which are my friends too. man. ex's should just back off and let it be done.

  • PoetMcChick@xanga

    Oh, my story's pretty crazy...but I definitely can't get into it here. I almost thought you might be my exes current gf (no, his name isn't Dan) because he's still talking with his ex (who IS A) and his ex (me...who is J) but he didn't date an M anytime recently, so you can't be her. Plus...he doesn't smoke pot and there's way more going on than just us being friends and getting close. We are close. But my friends hate him, nor does he have a xanga or facebook. But he does have myspace.

    But...my story varies from yours and, like I said before, is WAY too long to explain here. We're going on 4 years of story.

  • Angelina_Everlong@xanga

    A must be ridiculously insecure.  I wish there were internet police for people like her, but the best thing to do is ignore her, for sure.

    Dan is a total jerk, as you know.  You just have to put him in his place... and that's one far away from you.  I know how it feels to still want to be friends with somebody, but I once heard that until three years have passed, you cannot be friends with anyone you were with romantically.  If you try, it will all start up again.

    My ex is a bit similar... bad-mouthing me on the internet, starting rumors, accusing me of "fucking his best friend".  The girl he left me for also internet stalks me (though she's three years younger and on the other side of this country) and tries to start fights over myspace.  What I have to do is ignore it.  I cut all of the mutual friends away, deleted him off everything, and ignore that little bitch of his.  These types of people get what they deserve in the end, don't worry.  Just go on with your life and don't worry about it.  Worry about recovering and being happy!

  • babykittytara@xanga

    1. What is A's problem? How can I stop the stalking and get my life back?


    She's jealous that there was something between you and him at one point that she couldn't fully have for a time.  You were the "other woman" to her, and she'll hate you for that, even though it's not your fault, it's his for ever putting either of you in that kind of position.


    2. Will Dan always be this way, or did he just never really care or respect me at all?


    He'll most likely always be this way because, no offence, but he seems like the kind of guy who absolutely refuses to settle for anything short of being "free".  He likes the security offered in a relationship, but doesn't like being tied down to one person, so he goes about with other women as well.


    3. Why did I apologize to HIM after we broke up for telling him I hate him, because sadly, I don't hate him. Why don't I hate him? Why do I want to be friends with him? Why ARE we still friends?


    On some level, you probably still love him or are getting over him.  You feel bad for hurting his feelings even though he hurt yours ten times worse.  Honestly, i'd say drop him as friends at this point.  It's not going to make things any better.  Maybe if he grows up a bit, friendship would be possible and even a good idea, but not now.


    4. Do any of YOU have a story this horrible that you could possibly share? I can't possibly be the only person going through this nonsense, or can I?


    Though it may not be as bad as this, i've got something to this effect.  My husband's ex girlfriend is his best friend.  When we got married, we did a small ceremony at his mother's home (called a 'we come to you!' service for the solemnizer).  The only two witnesses were his mother and her.  We found out the day before, while we were confirming everything with everyone, that she had been talking to his mother a lot recently.  She started telling his mother how he's not ready to be married and several other things as if she'd heard them from him.  Apparently, she was trying to sew the idea of doubt into her head so that we'd lose a witness and wouldn't be able to get married the next day.  Since our marriage, she's gone about picking fights with me every time she's around, and trying to be cuddly and sexual with him, despite both of us getting clearly angry over it.

  • nicky_the_scene_cupcake@xanga
    Awesome!

    Congrats for dumping his sorry butt. What a loser. Seriously, remove him from your life as I told my friend the other day, he is NEVER going to change. No matter how much you pray, cry, or anything. He will always be an a**hole.

    Hon, you are too amazing to put up with a sh** head. Let him go and keep him out of your life. He will find a new girl toy and forget you and then the crazy stalker ho will stalk his new girl.

    Don't worry, be strong and be you. You don't owe that jerk ANYTHING.

  • serendipity3m@xanga

    I know a girl like A, so I can empathize. Just think of it this way. How sad is it that A had to get Dan drunk before she could get anything to happen between them? A is a disrespectful skank. Frankly, you are better off without any of these people in your life. Dan and A deserve each other.

  • GaMeGurLsH@xanga

    You don't need to list all his behaviors for us and you to know he's an a$$hole. Just ignore him, block him, tell him to f-off and that you'll call the police if he bothers you. You have to take care of yourself first, get healthy and be with supportive friends.

    You're being weak hearted by still letting him into your life.

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