Friday, 27 March 2009
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Further Evidence That Women Are Impossible to Understand
via Yahoo! News:Women still have a complex and contradictory relationship with their own image according to a poll released on Tuesday that found 25 percent of those questioned would rather win the "America's Next Top Model" TV show than the Nobel Peace Prize.And although 75 percent of women surveyed said they'd be willing to shave their heads to save the life of a stranger, more than a quarter of those taking part admitted they would make their best friend fat for life, if it meant they could be thin.
As for that age-old dilemma of whether to marry for wealth or looks, half of the 18- to 24-year-olds questioned said they would marry an ugly man if he were a multimillionaire.
The poll for U.S. television network Oxygen, which is targeted at young women, also found that 88 percent of 18- to 34-year-old women would happily give up their cell phone, jewelry and makeup to keep a friendship.
"As shown in several results, women today are a complex combination of altruistic and materialistic, vain and insecure, loyal and self-serving. This survey highlights the dichotomy in all of us," Berman said.
Sorry, guys. Ladies, to you, how much of this survey is accurate?
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ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME!!!
Vain, gold-digging and loyal? That means a lot of women don't mind being trophy wives. There goes feminism...
Completely wrong. Well to me! I would rather be smart than look good and be stupid like those america's next top models. Definitely would go for the nobel peace prize!
I wouldn't wish on anybody to be fat so I can be thin! I would feel horrible day in and day out and wouldn't be able to live with myself if I ever did that.
And I would never ever ever marry someone for money, what a horrible thing to do. I'd rather be happy with someone I truly love and not have all the things in the material world. I can live without those, but I can't live without being in love with the right person.
I would also give out cell phone, jewelry and others things to keep a friendship.
I don't know who they polled to get these results, but it's crazy
I prefer the peace prize I am not a fan of that modeling show. I love my best friend more than life and would never wish anything bad on him, and yes I would give up most anything to keep him in my life. The men I know who are either very handsome or very rich are not marriage material according to my standards. There's not enough money or good looks in the world to pay me back for life with a man I don't love insanely. Yes, women are confusing at times. But not all of us are so shallow.
women are shallow huh? and make poor, selfish decisions sometimes? go figure.
@echois23@xanga - Yes i agree, not all women are shallow. some rather be in love with a man then just be with them for money. I also would'nt wish someone fat so i can be thin noway in hell. I rather work out and get my body in shape then put someone else involved. whoever did this poll they sure got there priortys all wrong and i feel bad for them because they are going to end up alone and bitter in the end. they will just have to learn the hard way.
whoa.. i'm really hoping half the women who took that survey were just joking around.
on the other hand, you gotta think, WHY do these women so desperately wanna be thin and beautiful and marry rich? maybe they still believe that, if they don't fit those standards, they won't be accepted or they'll have it harder (and they're not entirely wrong either).A survey can be generalized only to a point. Depending on the size of their sample, this survey could be totally bunk. And these kinds of things, I don't know, closed-ended questions you can only get so many responses, asking bad either/or questions.
I can't even say whether I agree or disagree because some of those questions were just stupid. "Making your friend fat so you can stay thin" is not something you can actually do, so.. more realistic questions would have come out with better results.
Oh well.
America's Next Top Models always look a bit odd to me. That's no standard of beauty in my opinion.
Most women would probably make their friend fat for life, because their friend is probably already fat. They'd just have to stay that way.
I would marry an ugly man if he was beautiful on the inside!
I don't know how giving up a cell phone would help me keep a friendship. It would keep me from staying in touch with the people I live 2000 miles away from (my friends and family).
Wow, that data has me so confused that my head is spinning. WTF.
Yo - I would not marry a guy for his good looks or $$$. I make my own $$$ and a great personality is what makes a guy handsome to me. If he's chubby and fuzzy is even better. I like me a real man.
Make-up and cell sacrifice? I don't know about that. I just don't know. But seeing how I have issues with food/body-image...yeah, just pick the person to be fat so I can be thin. I don't care who.
Until it tells us how exactly the questions are framed, the survey doesn't really tell us anything. But that is true with most surveys and statistics, really.
This survey also doesn't mention how men who were asked the same questions answered (probably because they weren't asked the questions). You don't think men watch America's Next Top Model? Guess again. You don't think men would marry for wealth, or would wish their brother was fat if it meant they could be skinny? Guess again.
Everyone of every gender has a "complex and contradictory" image issue. We want to be self-serving and altruistic at the same time, rich but still somehow giving, vain but somehow humble. Most people only succeed at it to an astonishingly low degree, in my opinion, which I guess can only bring us closer together.
(I was born female, btw; I have every right to answer.)
the gender bashing could go either way- this is boring- and cliche
no, not all women are the same- good grief -why put this on datingish? -seriously?
I'd much rather win the Nobel Prize.
I agree to most except for the part of making your best friend fat for life if you can be skinny. It's obvious the women who said that are either incredibly insecure/overweight/have body issues.
As for the rest, it's quite understandable. Being loved for being beautiful is what everyone wants whether they like to admit it or not. And who wouldn't want to marry a multi-millionaire? We're all vain and superficial to a certain degree.
The survey was far from random - it was done online, and paid for by Oxygen to promote one of their new shows. Any reputable survey would disclose their methods and questions - there's none of that either on the Oxygen site nor TNS, the company that did it for them. As such, it's worth about as much as the paper it's printed on (and as I said - it was done  online).
Marrying a multimillionaire? You never know. His personality might not be so bad.
But look at the percentage:
25% chose ANTM over Nobel Peace (1/4) - YAY
75% chose to shave head to save stranger (3/4) - YAY
> 25% chose to make friend fat (~1/4) - still YAY
50% of 18-24 yr olds chose ugly millionaire (1/2) - not representative of women as a whole.
88% of 18-34 yr olds chose friendship over material things (~9/10) - still not representative but a lot better than 18-24! YAY!!!
The survey only had 2000 participants (which is a lot and I know how hard it is to get people to participate) but they range from 18 - 34 yr old. Yet the choosing to marry an ugly millionaire stat was only for the 18-24!!! What is the result across all 2000 participants? We have no idea how many of them are 18-24 and how many are 25-34.
And you have to take into account that 18-24 yr olds aren't necessarily "mature" enough, for lack of a better word. I'm 23 and I find myself always astounded at how much I've changed and matured as each year passes by. Ask me the same question at 18/19, I'd say yes. But ask me now at 23, I'd say no without a hesitation.
(sry - I took a few stats classes as well as marketing research and I've comprised and conducted surveys before - I know how hard it is to get participants and how easy it is to manipulate data a bit to get the desired result/fact.)
Uh duh, cuz different women were surveyed for different freaking surveys.
If you surveyed me with all these questions, my answers would be consistant thank you very much.
But you can't say "women are inconsistent" when you just throw up a bunch of random questions to different groups, HELLO!
Plus-- these women in the survey ARE NOT ME. That also means they are not everyone. So you can't point to one woman and say "she's a contradiction" based on a survey that is very separate from us as individuals.
If a man or a woman wants to draw conclusions about any specific woman, it's called "sit the f*ck down and ask her these questions yourself."
Sheesh.
"altruistic and materialistic, vain and insecure, loyal and self-serving"....
yes i am. although i'm not really a 'woman' yet.
but i don't see why not..this is a materialistic world. we're vain and insecure but why do men want us so much?
what are you calling vain? vain as in futile? worthless?
does that mean our boobs are vain? our ass? our vagina?
we're not vain!
MEN are vain. we're the one that has to protect another human being inside of us for 9 months while you men do nothing but sit in vanity! you're vain.
insecure? we have the RIGHT to be insecure. we're fragile human beings.
& if we're not self-serving..who's gonna serve us?
men can't even serve themselves..WE'RE THE ONE SERVING THEM. we need some "me-time" to serve ourselves too. hmph!
"half of the 18- to 24-year-olds questioned said they would marry an ugly man if he were a multimillionaire."
i guess i'm part of the other half then because i want to marry a decent looking man with enough wealth to feed me & my kids in the long run :)
nobel peace prize >>>>>>> america's next top model.
why is baldness necessary to save a life?yea thats pretty true, lol
but i feel you should have showed the results under different age groups... that may have changed up this article a little...
Yes, women can be complex and contradictory.
Men can too. We all have our moments.
Considering that women are generally regarded as emotionally-driven beings, a majority of what had been said could be true. They, too, could only be true for the day they were polled-- being as our emotions tend to change from day to day.
In truth: I'd highly prefer the Nobel Peace Prize to winning America's Next Top Model on any occasion. There will never be a time where my opinion on this would change.
Shaving my head to save a life is a decision that would come and go, changing according to my 'mood'. Yeah, it's sad a life would be determined on how I'm feeling. Tough luck. But is every life worth saving? What are the terms really? Is this a criminal I'm saving with my shaven locks? Or is it an innocent child? Those things matter.
I'd never condemn my best friend to be fat for life just so I could be thin though. Maybe it's because I'm not, nor ever have been, fat so I just wouldn't understand the struggle of the poor fat women who decided their best friends should get stuck with cellulite. I don't know. It just seems cruel and my friend's weight is independent of my own personal health and fitness. Why suddenly involve them?
I could never be married to someone I didn't like. If I love the ugly man that just so happens to be rich, so be it. I honestly don't really care for money. I'm in a financial bind right now, but I wouldn't blow a millionaire just to get myself through college.
On another note, I wouldn't give up my things just to keep a friendship unless this particular friendship was one I thought was worth keeping. I have a few close friends, and I don't think they'd put me through that ultimatum. I say this, even though I don't have or use much makeup, jewelry, or even my cell phone. They don't matter. I just wouldn't throw things away only to keep something that would later leave me eventually. Y'know?
lmfao
Keep in might the kind of women they are sampling: women who watch oxygen network and those that watch or know of ANTM.
But what do I know. I'm already thin so why make my friends fat? If your friends are fat, they'll make you fat too.