Thursday, 12 March 2009
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A Lesson From Rihanna: Are Women Blamed For Being Victims?
Pretty much everyone seems horrified by the recent act of violence Chris Brown is accused of perpetrating against Rihanna, espsecially after the photo came out of her bruised and swollen face. Any sane, decent human being would say: no woman deserves to be treated that way.But of those who side with Rihanna, some seem to insert a slightly anti-woman tone in their statements. The most recent example is Donald Trump, who said, “If she goes back [to Brown], she's a loser, and she doesn't deserve any future success.”
Is this really pro-woman and anti-violence, or is it anti-woman disguised as such? Of course everyone is going to have their own opinions of what's going on, but is it right to lash out at Rihanna for making a very difficult, personal decision? It seems to me that what Rihanna needs more than anything right now is support. I'm sure her friends and family are devastated that she is choosing to stay with him; but is it really better to criticize her and leave her to fend for herself, especially considering that she is dating someone with a history of violence?
Most of us can't imagine staying with a partner who beat us, but the fact is that lots of women do. That doesn't make it the right choice, but it's not right to blame women who do it.
Is it anyone's business to criticize Rihanna's decision? What's the most outlandish statement you've heard from family, friends or the media about this whole situation?
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Donald Trump is an idiot.
i really don't think it is anyone's business what she does with chris brown. it's a very personal issue and i think everyone needs to stop judging her. i understand that people don't agree but no one knows what she really is going through, every one is acting like they wouldnt make the same decision, when really most women go back. and maybe he won't do it again...
No, it's no one's business and people need to stop sticking their nose where it doesn't belong. One of my friends said, "The bitch deserved it." I was like WTF!? The thing is he was serious about it too. Serious or not, it should not have been said. No one deserves to being abused that's just so wrong.
I guess the saying "Love is Blind' applies hear. Apparently rihanna is back with chris brown. In my opinion I would never go back to someone who abused me. Hopefully she will come to her senses and realize this too. But if they can get help and go to counselling and resolve this with another, then all the best to them. I just hope that everything works out for the better if they are actually together.
One of my best friends went back to a man who left her for dead. It was he who left her because he didnt want to go to jail if he got caught again... she didnt press charges. Honestly, I think that if he started to sweettalk her she would go back to him. She saya he loves her...and for them, there may be LITTLE truth behind it...but what women like her dont realize...even if it is some kind of love...that is not the way ANYONE deserved to be loved. Never let love get in the way of how you need to be treated and respected...expecially if you have kids...
@Purrty_Pink@xanga - Yeah. It's so personal that it turned into a media shitstorm. They've done so well to keep it under wraps. Fuck the both of them. I'd rather see them both kill each other than hear one more word about it.
I don't know what happened; nor do I care. He's an idiot; she's talentless. Besides, most domestic cases don't get this kind of media attention. They're both milking the publicity for all it's worth.
Fuck the both of them.
I wasn't aware anyone else was forcing her, or anyone else, to be in that situation. Before I continue, I should say she, nor no other woman deserves this. It's horrible. But anyone who thinks a man like that is really going to change needs help. It doesn't happen. It sucks, but it's the truth.
If this happened to a friend of mine, I wouldn't give up supporting her, but she'd be stupid none the less. It's especially disappointing she's opting to do this because a lot of her fans are girls and woman of all ages, and it's showing that despite the name you make your yourself and despite all your money, it doesn't matter. It's ok to be passive and let a someone make you feel so inferior.
There are options that woman in this situation can take to get themselves out. And for Christ's sake, Rihanna is loaded, so she can't even use the excuse she can't support herself without him.
she was not in love, just addicted to chris brown.
she depended on him emotionally, it was not easy for her to leave him.
He might begged her or promised her that he would treat him like a princess in the future, who knows?
I guess most people are as vulnerable as Rihanna in front of their lovers.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - "I would never go back." I said the same thing; until my first relationship in which I was mentally abused throughout the whole thing. I was convinced it would all change. Love, and naivety, can do crazy shit to a person. Somehow, I doubt when the situation arises that you'll be quite as quick as you are now.
It's much different when it's really happening.
@Schristian@xanga - I wouldn't take it from anyone. I remember when a guy I really liked (this was in grade 3..lol!!) hit me in the face and I punched him back. I'm almost certain I would do the same. I never took sh*t from anyone and I wouldn't now. I guess you're right maybe being in the situation is different. But if a relationship is not making me happy, I would leave. I think I have a strong character when it comes to this. I just can't stand domestic abuse.. it bothers me.
I don't think anybody has much business criticizing her decision. For one, it doesn't effect their lives at all. It's not going to hurt them what so ever. For another, they can't say with utmost certainty that if they were in her situation, that they would or wouldn't do the same thing. You never know until you're actually placed in that position.
I don't think that by insulting her, they're doing any good.
From an outside point of view and from those who have not experience anything similar to what she or other woman had gone through - don't really know why they go back to a man who may had physically, mentally, or emotionally abused them.
Yes, these abusive men know how to say things these women want to hear. They know how to manipulate them into coming back. They promise not to do it again and that they will change for the better. You hear it all.
And these women go back just to find out that they are in the same place they were before it not worst. Not only do they go back but they are also emotionally dependent on these abusive men. Some know they deserve better but they're weak to leave. Or they believe that they won't find someone better. Or they're just afraid to be alone.
Whatever their reasons are for going back, I think we shouldn't judge them. We should support them but also remind them that they deserve better - that they need help to get out of the abusive relationship.
Though some voice out their concerns - it might also be offensive to the one who's in the abusive relationship and it may cause him/her to stay in it longer.
Donald Trump is right. In an abusive relationship, both parties are mentally ill. The man is sick for being violent, and the woman is sick for staying with it. Both parties need counseling because even if she breaks up with him, she'll just end up repeating her habit of getting with abusive guys. If she gets beat up again, I will feel no sympathy for her.
You just answered yourself there. We know a lot of women do go back to their abusers but that doesn't make it right.
AKA
She's a loser for going back. Just because a lot of women do it doesn't make it ok for her to do the same.
St-St-St-St-Stockholm's Syndrome.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - It bothers me too. I'm just saying that I was as vehement as you; but when it really happened--I couldn't get away. In the end: I did. I ended the relationship in front of her parents and revealed all the shit she did to me to them. It was beautiful.
In those situations: you really want it to work out.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - You know what is the funny situation? We don't even know what it was that set him off. And seeing as how this is common, everybody looks at Chris Brown like a freakin' strung out mouseketeer.
@BlackSunshine7@xanga - Well, the police confirmed that it was Rihanna throwing his keys out of his rented Lamborghini but I'm sure she threw in some insults here and there. But STILL, it doesn't justify what he did. I mean bite marks, scratch marks, bashing her head against the window and her almost oging unconcsious?... that's crazy.
@Schristian@xanga - That's great that you got out. I mean I know that takes a lot of willpower. I guess a factor is also how long you've been with them. If you're with someone for two years opposed to two months then I'm sure it would be a lot harder to leave the relationship. But I'm glad you did :) And sorry to hear about that.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - Yeah. But the moral of the story is that people are people. Clean images are a smokescreen to what real people can really be.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - Like I said: I hate the both of them. She's a vacuous; talentless; spoiled brat. He's a talentless; thick-headed; twat-monkey with no self-restraint.
@vvaanneessuuhh@xanga - Amazingly, it was 8 months; and mostly I stayed because I felt like I could never get another woman. She was my first girlfriend and my self-esteem was mighty low then. Finally, I'd had enough and broke it off. It happens, but thank you for the concern and kind words.
I don't think that a woman going back/staying in an abusive is anyone else's business.
With that said, in Rihanna's case, I see why people would be concerned about what she's deciding to do. Don't get me wrong, I don't judge her at all. I think that she's just in love and when you're in love, you're just... in love. You know? But Rihanna is a celebrity and a role model to many girls out there, and by her staying with Chris Brown after he brutally beat her and left her disfigured just sends out the wrong message to those girls who look up to her.
I really like her a lot. I liked him too.. that asshole.
i hate when people say she's a role model.
why are people looking up to her anyways?
don't put her on a pedestal
when you put someone on a pedestal they always fall off.
i don't understand why people are in their business.
leave it alone.
if you have nothing good to say.
don't say it.
its much easier to say i would leave when its not you.
and if you're going to be negative, please leave your opinions to yourself.
she needs support, not criticism.
It is her own business, however as a celebrity there is no stopping the criticism.
People like Donald Trump are ignorant fools. I say this because we can make negative judgments about others faster than we can try to understand or empathize with another person.
Yes, Rihanna going back to Chris Brown, or any woman going back to her abusive partner, is going to be making a mistake. But to call her 'stupid' and a 'loser' as some people have is too cruel! They definitely need someone to reach out to them and offer encouragement and guidance.
A lot of women who go back to their abusive partners do so for many reasons: while Rihanna may not have children, she may or may not be feeling extreme fear and anxiety, among other things. She may or may not feel Chris is worth another shot, because she is in love with him. She may or may not feel that she has nothing without him, or is uncertain of how to proceed her life without him.
I don't agree with blaming the victim. I mean, people make mistakes all the time--I don't understand how we, as the third party, could be so cruel as to simply... well, bash another person who actually requires our empathy and support. Also, many celebrities actually do try to keep their lives private; simply that they are unable to do so because of the paparazzi (unless you're Paris Hilton, who loves face time on the cameras)
Instead of criticizing Rihanna, why not help her out? Why not help all domestic violence victims?
You can't criticize her if you haven't been a domestic violence victim. Sure, we all think she's not smart by continually dating Chris Brown after all this happened, but the majority of critics don't know what her situation is like. Therefore, everything's always EASIER SAID THAN DONE. It's EASIER for everyone to blame women/victims for accepting/condoning abuse.
If you're gonna criticize her, you better know your shit and get educated about domestic violence before you bash her (no pun intended).