Tuesday, 10 March 2009
-
My Adventures Meeting Friends on OkCupid
When first learning how to bike, I remember being told by my mother that falling (as well as rolling facefirst down a hill multiple times) was to be expected. But then she would complain about the scabs, bruises, and scars I'd receive. WTF?The rest of life works the same way - you would have to fall off the high horse several times in order to properly understand the inner workings of the universe. I, of course, always learn things the hard way. Lately, I've been on a free site called OkCupid (the little sister to eHarmony, if you will) that uses mathematical logarithms to place you with your ideal match. The account I created was only meant as a joke (it's bare bones - none of my personal information is listed on my profile) and even as a potential opportunity to meet new friends (yes, just friends). And indeed I have:
Friend #1: A very charming and funny guy --> he raps (score!) But he is also chronically depressed, which, to a certain extent, hinders the friendship from progressing.
Friend #2: All-around great guy. Met him once and I took his minimal speaking to = incompatibility/dislike. It turns out he was simply... shy??? Completely different than his online persona, but he's also laidback, comfortable to be with, and has never snorted cocaine --> so far, he's a keeper.
Friend #3: Have you ever stared into a crystal ball and seen it turn smoky or hazy? This friend is a crystal ball. Sometimes, you'd think he's a completely normal guy-next-door; other times, you'd want to stay the hell away. He asked me, after meeting me only twice, where I saw "the relationship" going. I reminded him--as I do all my new friends--that I only want friendship, nothing more. He replied with, "Who knows? Maybe one day, I could even wind up being your soul mate." Oh, and he wants to meet my friends sometime. And insists on paying for everything. I'm a tad bit concerned he's already picked out the ring...
Friend #4: Constantly kept in contact with each other until the day I finally met him, during which he told me he and his friends only hang out with individuals who graduated from elite schools and lead rich, stable lifestyles. Needless to say, after that, he disappeared off the face of the earth and didn't respond to my messages. But I got a free dinner out of it, so no complaints here.
Friend #5: He's a male eight years my senior who I haven't met yet but I have already graduated him to BFF status just so I can tell my mother I finally have a Korean friend who isn't a prick (read below).
Friend #6: Another Korean guy I was supposed to meet but has now blocked because he blew up at me after I told him I wanted to wait until marriage to do the deed with my husband. Now, he initially brought up the sex talk, and when I told him that in this world, love doesn't necessarily equate sex (although sex can be an act of love), he said: 1) This was "stupid" and "ridiculous" 2) My "hippie crap" as he called it, was "annoying" 3) I was an "extortionist" because I was "blackmailing guys into marrying by withholding sex" 4) I was "a nutty little girl with relationship issues" who no man could ever possibly want, and 5) The only guy who I'd be compatible with would be a weak "choir boy with oppressive mother issues". I then very politely told him he was a douchebag. Ugh, I have such bad luck with my own peoples.
Friend #7: Lives in England. Throws a bit of a tantrum if I don't respond to him within two minutes. As the Brits would say... Good riddance!
Friend #8: Currently taking midterms, but he offered me a ride in his convertible. The girl that I am, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he doesn't go under the whackjob category. Yes, just so I can ride in his convertible. Shameless, so shameless.
Friend #9, #10, #11: The only thing they have in common is that they hit on me within two minutes without knowing a single thing about me besides the fact I am only seeking friendship. #9 is FIFTEEN years older than I am, and not only did he give me his number but asked me out to dinner and ice skating afterwards. All within two minutes.
So what have I learned so far?
Life rule #105: A male and female cannot ever just be friends unless one of three things happen: 1) There is no attraction. Even if you do not feel attraction, how do you know what the other guy is feeling? OR 2) You have "the talk" in which you verbally lay out the boundaries of the friendship OR 3) You both share nasty habits early on in the friendship (such as passing gas and picking your nose) that naturally bypasses the need for the previously-mentioned choices. I recently learned this the hard way, that by simply being friendly with members of the opposite sex, they may either feel unrequited sexual attraction or treat me like a disease because they perceive my social behavior as a sign I am attracted to them. If there is a way to be friendly without being considered a flirt, please let me know!
Life rule #106: The term "friendship" apparently still leaves room for confusion. Before initiating a friendship with a member of the opposite sex, you should always clearly define the rules of friendship. Some "friendships" seemingly do equal dinner, movie, holding hands, and sleeping over?
Life rule #201: Meeting friends online STILL feels like a date. I wear what I normally do and act as I normally do, but when you're sitting across the friend in question, suddenly the mood doesn't feel as casual anymore. Instead, I wind up being interviewed by a stranger I don't know... and I grow irritated because this ties into the next rule...
Life rule #202: In the back of a guy's mind, meeting a new friend may mean meeting a possible soul mate. And sometimes, the thought of the latter overshadows the former.
Life rule #203: Don't use an online dating site simply to meet friends. Stick with... um... Myspace? Facebook? The Yellow Pages?
Oh, and I deleted my account.
Post a Comment
- Back to datingish's Datingish Site!
- Note: your comment will appear in datingish's local time zone: GMT -05:00 (Eastern Standard - US, Canada)


Recommend


Comments (43)
i say try the old fashion way :P
mutual friends parties :3
"Life rule #203: Don't use an online dating site simply to meet friends. Stick with... um... Myspace? Facebook? The Yellow Pages?"
Thank god you said that... meeting guys just to be friends on a site that has the name CUPID in it? not such a smart idea.
I had a bit of a freak too - blew up at me because I didn't want to meet him after only chatting for 5 days. Now, those of you who read my blog know that I got out of a year+ long relationship 2 weeks ago, so meeting someone online was a big step.
Anyways, he got very sarcastic and told me over MSN that I was immature to assume things about him, and to contact him when I finally mature enough to get to know him. *Block-delete.*
I'm talking to a pretty cool guy now though - he's an engineer (yay) and a triathlete (double yay!!!) like me. And he's kind of cute. Trying to keep my hopes reasonable...
totally been there although I didn't have the courage yet to delete my OKCupid account ...
I think online dating is totally gibberish
The site is OkCupid.. a place where people come to find potential romantic interests..not a place for friendship.
Can I say DUH? The responses you got were expected.
HaHa...you just gave me my first giggle session of the day!!
My mother met her husband of 10 years online! After 4 failed marriages, she finally found the man of her dreams.
As a single mother, it was difficult to find a potential man. Either they weren't comfortable with the fact that I have a child or they were immature assholes with no understanding of the way life worked.
A friend told me about singleparentmeet.com. I got a 3 month account just to see what I could find. Needless to say, I went on one date after talking to this guy for like a month. We met up for some Thai food and things were pretty cool. As he stands up to pay, a condom fell out of his back pocket!!! I was instantly pissed that he assumed he was going to get some! I pretended I didn't notice and had him follow me to my favorite bar. Got drinky on his tab and said I needed to go home because I had to get up early for work. He walked me to my car, I let him drive off and then went back inside to hang out with my girlfriends. Cancelled my account the very next day. Met my boyfriend at a friend's house and we've been together since
Look that's pretty mean of you. @Neurotically_Mine@xanga - is right. You're going to a DATING site to only meet friends? That's pretty much First Class Cock Tease. These guys generally are seeking something really worthwhile relationship-wise. And honestly before you even know who they are you automatically decide that they can't be anymore than friends. Seems a little prejudice, to me.
You must be that lame of person if you can't go out in public to make friends....instead you go on a DATING website to make friends. Come on...use your brain!
One thing I learned...there's a reason why people meet other people off the internet: They're psycho. What do you expect?
Ohhh i know this story, every time i talk to a woman or just try to be FRIENDS they seem to want to take it to the next level. I think it scared me, now im all afraid to just make woman friends cause now i think in the back of there head they want more. I think there was only once where i could just talk to a girl and it and we just remind friends. Maybe guys and girls just cant be friends *shrugs*
Meet your friends friends and their friends and keep meeting people in person. You shouldn't really ever trust any friendship that starts online. You should meet people face-to-face and get to know what you see in front of you. That eliminates the middle part of meeting them online then transitioning to in person.
I disagree with rule #202... I put women I meet in the friend category until there is some reason that I may be interested in more, or unless we met for the specific reason of going on a date.
"Life rule #203: Don't use an online dating
site simply to meet friends. Stick with... um... Myspace? Facebook? The
Yellow Pages?"
So true.
Why go on a dating site just to "meet friends?" Obviously, it's called a "dating" site for a reason.
Ahahaha.... one of my friends told me to make an okcupid profile so that he wouldn't feel so alone! I never check it, and whenever I do [once every few months], I always get hit on by men that are like 20 years older than me. It's really creepy.Â
Aside from that, I have absolutely no faith in online dating or making friends over the internet. I think that if I did, I would have more success with that site, but I just don't care, and I think every guy that messages me is an idiot, even if he's not. I also tend to think that everyone lies, and all those online profiles will lead me to a scary rapist or something. I guess I don't really know what to tell you about all those friends you've made. A couple of them sound awful. I just hope you have some good luck come your way, so that all the falling and getting back up again will finally cease for you! :D
It's hard making sure that the guy knows what you mean when you say friendship. I know a few guys that would still consider sleeping with their "friends" because they don't have the same equation as we do about how love is a def. must in order to have sex and in your case, so is a marriage. Usually, I'm friends with a guy because I don't feel any attraction for them. Unfortunately, it's been demonstrated that my friendliness is often taken as FLIRTINESS and the friend in question are usually confounded when I talk about other guys when they're with me (although if we're hanging out, I'm wearing super casual gear and I'm talking about other hot guys that I'm interested, I dont see why he's confused about his position in my life).
So it's best really to keep a solid communication open: you're looking for friendship. Friendship does not equal hand holding but sometimes arm-in-arm, it doesn't mean kissing with tongue but eventually cheek kisses seem to be prevalent and it definitely doesn't mean sleep overs unless he's def. gay and you're into gay porn with groups of other girls to ensure you that he's not faking his gayness.
Dating sites does not provide the best pool of men to be friends with. Let's face it, most guys think they have a chance EVEN if you tell them "you're the best friend a girl can have." Especially if you don't have a lot of history behind you in being friends, then until you treat them like a brother you would have wanted to have or a cousin or in the case of the older man an UNCLE, they're still going to think that you might BE the one. Oh yeah, I found that if I tell the friend (after 2-3 times of hanging out) that I don't DATE my friends because they automatically fall in the "NONO" zone then they seem to get a clue. But then of course, they too can disappear because they felt some attraction for me whereas to admit that I did not is a ego buster.
Facebook is better and so is xanga really... but dating sites give them (the guys) the false pretense that you say FRIENDSHIP meaning BEDBUDDIES since you ARE on a dating site, no?
GOOD LUCK!
ps: i too have bad luck with my own people. it's weird. i just don't fit. O_o
life rule #105: i agree.
I dont believe in online dating, but I dont see a problem with making online friends and then meeting up. I've met 3 people from OKC and they all turned out pretty good. One of them even turned into a fuck-buddy situation before we decided to (temporarily) put it to the side and we're still friends. :)
My advice is, dont go looking for love on the internet. Be content just talking to someone and hopefully one day you all will get to meet.
I knooooooow! I have guys all the time telling me stuff. I tell them I just want friends (I don't have too many in the area...) and then they come back with "who knows, maybe more". I'm like "no, not maybe more. definitely not more!" But whatever. All of these are AMAZING points. Too true, sadly enough!
#6 is a douchebag. I don't think that hippies and not having sex go hand in hand in most people's minds. True or not, aren't hippies and promiscuity more the idea?
Either way, #2 sounds about right. Give him time and encouragement to come out of his shell. Of course, if he turns psycho, run like hell.
I enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
Friend #7: Lives in England.
OOOOOOH YEEAH :)
I HATED OkCupid. I joined because I had a friend from college who was a member and asked me to join, thinking I'd find a boyfriend and stop whining to him about being single. I didn't talk to many people from the site, but they were all very memorable...for terrible reasons....
#1: he was a year younger than me, lived 2 hours away, and was still a virgin. he only wanted someone to lose his virginity to. i knew his area of town very well, as that's where I'm from, but I wasn't interested in meeting some random person from the hood to have sex with. I'd prefer sex with someone I love.
#2: was very boring to me. he was 27 years older than me and the only thing we had in common was watching squidbillies and aqua teen hunger force. so he was my mother's age, and had her personality. ew.
#3: within 30 minutes of talking, was asking me for my phone number, when we could meet, and for nude pictures.
#4: was from england and threw fits when i didn't respond fast enough, he helped me find the drivers for my webcam to work with windows vista...only because he wanted to see me naked.
#5: I would have met him, I really liked him a lot. He was kind of my internet boyfriend, as lame as it sounds. He had a lot of self-esteem problems though. He thought no one would ever be attracted to him apart from online because he was a little on the overweight side. He wasn't enormous like he thought he was, he could have lost 20-30 pounds and been fucking gorgeous. He had the two things I go nuts over - blonde hair and blue eyes. We had a lot in common, and we talked for almost a month online and a few times over the phone. The whole thing was just a matter of explaining it to my parents. They're paranoid that someone from the internet would just want to rape and kill me, and all this guy wanted was to hang out at the lake, since I live walking distance of one of the biggest lakes in Georgia. Anyway, I kept getting this weird gut feeling to not meet him, he couldn't understand why. You can lie online and say anything to get someone to meet you, and he wanted to hang out at a lake. I could see meeting at a restaurant or a mall or something but he wanted to come to my house and take me to the lake. Also, he wouldn't lie to my parents for me. Like I said, they're very paranoid of internet people, so I was gonna tell them I knew him from college. He wasn't "a scholarly type" so he didn't wanna lie to them about it. He was wanting to meet me after three days of talking. I had just gotten over something really bad, and he reminded me a lot of that person. A few days after becoming his internet girlfriend, I went to a concert with two of my best friends - I met one of their friends I hadn't met before, and ended up having sex with him by the end of the night. This was last July, and that guy I had sex with after only knowing him for three hours has been my boyfriend since about 4 days after that, and still is. When I told the OkCupid guy about the, at the time, one night stand, he was upset, but willing to forgive me and still wanted to meet. I had to tell him "no, I really like this guy, and I know from trusted sources that he's a really good guy. With you, I have no other friends or family that knows you, so I don't know how well I can trust just from what some guy on the internet tells me. Maybe we can still just chat online and on the phone though." He told me he was giving up his diet, his exercise plan, and possibly committing suicide. Yeah, go kill yourself over some girl you've only talked to online for a month. Makes all kinds of sense, right? I knew it was an empty threat, and he knew I don't take suicide threats lightly, and an empty one is the quickest way to never hear from me again. The next night, we'd both calmed down, and he called me. I was talking about my dad, because he was about to go in for neck surgery and I was very worried. The OkCupid guy got kind of...awkwardly quiet on me and suddenly had to go. My boyfriend, who wasn't yet at the time, called me. We talked for a few minutes and he got off the phone to fix him something to eat. OkCupid guy sends me a text saying he can't be friends with me, it's too hard, and he's giving up on everything. So I deleted his number, blocked his myspace, and deleted my OkCupid page. The next day, I was officially the girlfriend to the guy I had the one night stand with. We've been together now since mid-July, have only had one small argument which I don't even count since we were both drunk and stupid, and I think he is the most amazing man ever. I'd marry him today if he asked me to.
Funny how things are going so great with him when the OkCupid guy said "You just wait and see, he's gonna do something so terrible to you that you won't be able to handle it, and I won't be here for you when he does." He didn't know shit about my boyfriend, he just wanted to pass judgement because he was angry.
You have to be someone's friend before you date 'em unless you're a whore who jumps on things right away or you both realize their is no chemistry and break up.
Why not?
www.okcupid.com/nottypical
I've met some great people on there, and some not-so-great ones. I met two of the nicest (online) guy friends (one in England, one in this country) on there, and I'm friends with them through their Facebooks and Myspaces. I was in a long distance relationship with one other guy (from England, I might add) from there for a while until fairly recently, when he said he only liked me as a friend, changed his relationship status on Facebook to "in a relationship", and then deleted me as a friend on there.
Hahaha, I tried OkCupid too. My account is long gone.
Why would you go to a dating site to meet friends?
Anyway, I feel the same way about being friendly and flirty. For some reason, guys always think I'm flirting with them when I'm just being friendly.