Thursday, 15 January 2009

  • Dear Dr. Datingish: Why Haven't I Dated for Two Years?

    Dr. Datingish

    I'm a moderately attractive 23-year-old girl. In my five-year college career, I have had only one relationship and one date. My ex and I broke up almost two years ago.

    Since then, I've met many eligible guys - cute, funny, sweet, guys who admittedly enjoy spending time with me. I'm "tons of fun," "really cute," "outgoing and pretty" (THEIR words, not mine), but never enough for a date. I spend time with these guys - they're either friends of friends or guys I know from classes or clubs on campus.

    I asked one of them if we could do something sometime. He laughed and said "sure," when he had time. The other I admitted my feelings to. He was stunned, and then complimented me profusely, saying we would still be friends, and it shouldn't be awkward. There's actually a third guy I know and like, but really, what's the point? He acts really sweet, teases me and all that, but I'm willing to bet that the minute I ask him to a movie or to get coffee, it'll just crap out.

    I've been trying for almost two years. I dress nicely, wear makeup, smell nice, smile at guys, be as nice as I can be... what's the deal, guys?

    I've had people tell me it is because I do not go out drinking at bars. Is that it? Because I am not a drunk and a socialite like the sorority sluts? I'm not a huge drinker. But so many people think the only way to get a date is to wear a tight top and go to a bar and make sure you have a beer in your hand.

    So is that really my only option? Sacrifice who I am and put on a front for a room of inebriated people?

    How on earth do you get a guy to like you? To go out on a SINGLE date? I'm willing to try anything.

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Comments (328)

  • abcxunt@xanga

    maybe you're trying too hard.

  • SerenaDante@xanga

    Uh, you definitely shouldn't sacrifice who you are. I don't drink much either (I'm usually the designated person to help girls pick themselves off the ground after they've passed out lol). I guess these boys are just too dumb to realize how awesome you are by NOT drinking...


    I would have to say, maybe keep smiling at this guy and having fun with him or whatever just during school... And maybe start by hanging out with him in other places while there are other people too... Like if you and your girlfriends go to a movie, invite him along, not just you alone... Get a seat next to him... Have fun... Then after this, potentially mention that you guys should do that again. (Don't mention "alone," but hopefully he won't be surprised that that's what you mean...)

  • kinkykrazygurl@xanga

    i have to same problem. i've been single only six month less then u have

  • Roadlesstaken@xanga
    Well definitely don't try to be something you're not in order to get a guy. Can't say for sure wassup with you and your bad luck. It's true that girls that go drinking and out to bars probably have more opportunities to meet guys to date, but there are guys out there that prefer girls like you.
  • emra_cadaver@xanga
    Dunk!

    well maybe you're repelling away all the guys that are not meant for you, which is a good thing. i'm not really sure how i do it to be honest. the guys i usually do date are the ones that, i, at first glance would originally not want to date. i end up liking them later on. really, though. don't worry about it too much. i used to be in a similar situation. everything in perfect timing. 

  • LadyOblivious@xanga

    I met my current boyfriend at a club.  I didn't go to drink, or wear tight tops.  I was myself and went only because it was an 80's night on Saturdays.  You can go out, and meet guys all sorts of places.  You can meet them through friends, at clubs (without the drinking), at the public library, grocery store, whatever.  The trick is to be approachable at all times.  There was a whole chapter in a dating book one of my friends had explaining what quick things guys look for in a girl's cart to figure out if she's single at the grocery store.  You could go to the hardware store and hang out and ask some cute guy to help you out and explain something that you could use for a home project.  Make sure to have something in mind for what you're buying.  Then tell the guy he was a great help and you'd love to hang out and pick his brain some more.  Laugh, smile seem friendly. 


    There are tons of places and ways to meet guys.  Just be creative.

  • JennySavedTheWorld@xanga

    You should just be patient.

    Timing is key here.
    You're beautiful.

    you deserve a man that's your equal.
    they're hard to find; like you're hard to find.

    so, right now;  there's a guy looking for you.

    and remember; never settle for less than you deserve.
    because; it sounds like you're a wonderful woman.

  • happyobligations@xanga

    maybe you look TOO good. i've heard that most guys only go for the "okay" girls. if you look too pretty/high-maintenance, they might get intimidated. i would say it's just a stroke of bad luck that these guys weren't interested

  • OpiumxRainbows@xanga

    Guys find desperation a HUUUUGE turn off.

  • lesprit__descalier@xanga

    love will come when you least expect it =)

    just out of curiosity, does going out for coffee count as being romantically interested in them? like a mini date?

    then maybe i shouldn't have too many coffees/lunch with potential guy friends. haha.i'm on the opposite boat.. i'd like to make guy friends just as friends. that seems like a really hard thing to do.

  • verified_but_still_denied@xanga

    stay true to your self and try looking elsewhere. seriously. I'm very sure there are PLENTY of guys who would be willing to go on a date with you. You just need a change of locatioin. And when you change the location, make sre you visit the place often just in case some guy is looking for you. 

  • brittgirrll12@xanga

    hey i dont now you please stop i dont want to be your friend ok i am deleting you as mt friend stop trying to be my friend i dont want to be your friend ok

  • why

    wow, your situation sounds just like mine. i know how u feel, and i dont understand the problem with these guys as well, they would hit it up and wont ask for a date. i guess its because we have been meeting the wrong guys.

  • x0x_loveless_x0x@xanga

    You definitely shouldn't change how you are. Drinking wise. Don't do it. I think doing something like that is pretty desperate (no offence to anybody who thinks otherwise)

    But I don't think you should worry about it either. There's bound to be a guy out there that will like you and think of you more than a friend. Don't try to hard on trying to get a guy though, I know a lot of guys think of that as a turn off.

    Um yeah. I don't think you should worry about it. At one point, I was single for about 4 years, before my boyfriend asked me out. And now we're together and in love <3 ^^

  • awokenfatality@xanga

    This sounds a little like me.

    No, you shouldn't reduce yourself to it.

    Has it only been to guys you've tried with?

    Try again with the third guy. Flirt with him and all that. Show confidence, guys love girls with confidence!

  • elvesdoitbetter@xanga

    Just be yourself, and stop trying so hard. If you do something that is against who you are a person, then any guy you find in that situation is not going to match who you are either. Just calm down, enjoy life, and stop worrying about it. Being on the hunt all the time is just going to make you come off as desperate (which I doubt you are, but that's the message you'll end up sending, ) and generally guys like to do the asking. You don't have to play coy or anything, but some guys will be put off just by the fact that you asked them instead of the other way around (it's stupid, but that's how our culture is.)


    You also have to consider that a lot of people in college are only looking for hookups. That's why people who go to the bars all the time seem to be getting all the dates -- the bars are for finding hookups, or first dates that become hookups and nothing else. You're not going to find someone who wants a relationship at a bar. I remember in high school, everyone was dating and in relationships, but I've been in college for almost 4 years now, and I almost never see couples. It's just not the nature of the college atmosphere.


    Though, I hear (from multiple people from multiple schools) a girl can't go into the law library without being hit on at least once.

  • jeezshoua@xanga

    Don't try to be someone you're not just to get someone to notice you.  I'm sure when you meet the right one and when the timing is right, you will find that special someone.  Just go with the flow and take one step at a time.

    As people would put it, "I'm a gooooood girl."  I don't drink or smoke.  I'm also a bar and club virgin.  Never stepped foot in there.  It's just not me and I'm not interested in doing those stuff.  Don't go out of your way to get a guy.  Stand your ground and be true to who you are.  :)

  • MiladyMasked@xanga

    "Because I am not a drunk and a socialite like the sorority sluts?"

    I know this is just one line of the article, but I feel the need to write in that sorority girls are not "drunks" or "sluts" as a general body.  Certainly, there are many individuals that choose to drink (this is college, after all), and there are inevitably going to be some women who are sexually "loose".  However, that falls on the individual, not sororities as a whole.  If one of these "drunk", "slutty" girls was a member of any other club, would you dismiss the whole club as a bunch of drunks and sluts?  No, you wouldn't.  Greek life has been unfairly stereotyped for a long time-- movies like Animal House perpetuate those stereotypes, and many people see that, are turned off by that, and don't even bother to find out what sororities/fraternities are actually like in real life.  (Not that I'm saying we should ban Animal House-  that movie was hilarious-  I'm just saying people shouldn't form such strong opinions based solely on fictional media.)  It's a shame that organizations holding such potential (networking, academic motivation, leadership opportunities, a supportive group of friends who are there for you no matter what) are dismissed as unfairly as the Harry Potter books often are by religious groups-- that is, by people that know little to nothing about them, or who take a single incident and magnify it to a disproportionate extent.  There are certainly some chapters of any fraternity/sorority that the national organization would be less than proud of, but at their core, Greek organizations were founded on values like friendship and loyalty. 

    At my university, our Greek life has won many awards for its outstanding academics, leadership, and community service.  My sisters don't wear pink all the time, don't have naked pillow fights, and aren't sluts.  They're engineers, they co-op, they play Rock Band, they devote hours of their time to serving their community, and they will always be there for me, no matter what.

    You might not realize it, but when you make a small offhand comment like that, you're reinforcing a stereotype that forces us to fight for our continued existence, despite our never having done anything to earn it.

  • EccentricSiren@xanga

    Not knowing you personally, I can't say. But calling sorority girls "drunks" and "sluts" does look a tad judgmental. If you think you're better than everyone else, it will show. I think a person's opinion of him/herself is usually a lot more obvious to other people than the person realizes. (I'm not saying you do see yourself that way, because I don't know you. But it's something to think about.)


    But don't change who you are to get a guy. I once attracted a guy by pretending I was the super outgoing type. I'm actually more reserved and shy in real life, and I think he was quite turned off when I got tired of playing social butterfly. I realized I wanted someone who didn't mind that I am not the life of the party. If you pretend to be someone other than who you are, you'll get tired of it eventually. Your relationship should be a place where you can be yourself, where you can relax after trying to put on a good face for the rest of the world.

  • c_hriistina@xanga

    If you are ever to get a guy, he should love you for exactly who you are but not for who you pretend to be.  Looks don't determine everything darling, It's the inside that matters.  Don't pursue it, let love come to you.


    And they Do so that if you dress "too pretty" guys will think that you're too good for them.  So tone it down a bit, and see how it goes.




    But bottom line, be yourself :) Good Luck!

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  • theresastacey@xanga

    I didnt have a boyfriend until I turned 18. (Somehow this is a big deal these days) Guys would always tell me I look "unapproachable" like I would immediately turn them down or Im too good to talk to them. However most people think this about me, Im very much an introvert and I dont really put myself out there so people take my "just not wanting to disturb them" as "too good to talk to them" which is not the case. If for some reason you seem unapproachable try to make yourself available to talk to so men can get to know your good personality and feel more confident in seeking a relationship with you. Good luck!

  • JazzedUpArcher@xanga

    Please don't sell yourself out by drinking all kinds. You should be exactly who you are, and do what makes you comfortable and happy. Sometimes people find SO's in different times in their lives...it doesn't have to be right away, and you generally find what you're looking for when you're NOT looking for it. It's true, I promise. :D 

  • tiny_fists_of_fury@xanga

    Well I'm right there with ya sister.  I'm 24 and haven't had a boyfriend in 4.5 years.  I have dated a few guys but most of them were guys that were into me and me not as much into them.  I don't think I'm ugly and guys have complimented me many times on my appearance so that's not it either.  I'm going to give you MY perspective and then a more SECULAR perspective as well (just in case you aren't a believer).


    Recently I've really let go of my worry about being single (I'm not saying that I stopped liking boys, I just stop making them an "idol" in my life).  I'm a Christian so I have tried to make God the center of my life rather than my desire for a guy.  It's been wonderful actually.  The wonderful thing about the Lord is that He is the only One you will ever know that will love you undeniably, unconditionally, eternally and without a fight.  Since I've handed myself over to the Lord, I've not only been attracting more guys but also the type of guys that I would want to attract as well.


    Now, I'm not sure if you are religious in anyway so I suppose I can try to put it in another perspective (though I really wish you could see my view of it because His love really is awesome).  Anyway,


    You have to be okay with who you are first.  Be content with yourself as a single.  Love yourself as an individual first because that is when you will be able to be with a guy and know how to love him too.  Also you probably should try not to concentrate on guys so much.  Concentrate on what you can do in your own life to get you to your goals.  Find your purpose and strive for it.  Make your life right now about finding yourself and make it a passage to self discovery because really I'm pretty sure when you stop being single you won't have time to "find yourself" as much.  Do it now.  Make it a priority.  Read books like "Siddhartha" and "Damien" by Herman Hesse.


    All the looking you do sounds like me a year ago.  I mean this in the nicest way, but guys see it as needy and somewhat desperate.  I think I used to come across that way.  That's why I personally have decided not to pursue any guys anymore.  I've tried, it's failed so I'm gonna have to leave it up to them because otherwise I get too eager about it all.


    I'm not saying I'm perfect because I still struggle, but I do feel as though those things will help.  I felt it hard to do without God actually.  I will say that before when I tried I tried it the hard way (just concentrating on my purpose, etc.) it didn't work as well.  I felt that letting go and letting God worked for me the best.  It made things so easy and lifted the weight of being single off my shoulders.


    If you are in fact Christian, definitely pick up the book "If Men Are Like Buses, Then How Do I Catch One."  I know it kind of sounds silly and I never thought I would be one to read those kinds of books but my sister gave it to me and it really does give you a new perspective to it all!  Good luck!  God bless!  Hope it works out for you!

  • SeitekiChibiNeko@xanga

    yeah, i feel like there is mostly 3 types of guys in college:

    1) the ones that only want hook-ups instead of relationships etc. if they think it'll hurt your feeling too much they won't go there at all if you're friend w/ them (at least that was some of my guy friends)

    2) the OMG I wanna get married and have babies already type. there's a surprising number of the uber-romantic devoted to their girlfriend or hypothetical gf ones O_o

    3) the super studious ones that care more about their grades then dating

    i never thought college was such a great place to get dates LOL just keep being yourself, and something will come along :)  try not to stress about it, i doubt the problem is with you

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