Thursday, 01 January 2009

  • The Big Ugly Monster That Isn't Jealousy

    This is a guest blog submitted by sweetsweetsugarjunkie.

    That big ugly monster is, in fact, you.

    Well, okay, not you, it's me, but I'm sure a lot of you can relate!

    I've had a pretty rough life. It was always others' needs before my own and a wild goose chase to please everyone even if "everyone" didn't include me.

    All of the sudden, into my life walks this wonderful guy. He is the sweetest, a total gentleman. He's considerate and caring, and instead of wanting anything from me, he's always putting me before himself! He would try to please me the best of his ability all the while telling me, "it's because I care for you and I think that you deserve the best." Who wouldn't be super comfortable under such conditions? So like a kid with rich parents, I became spoiled. Rotten.

    So far it sounds like a dream come true, but it's not.

    Eventually, without knowing it, I came to demand so much from him. Soon he began to transform into the mat outside my door. Every time I walked over him, I would feel guilt, but that was only after I had completely scraped my shoes clean and walked through the door. I felt guilty a lot, but coming from having almost nothing, I was taught that pride is the only thing that can't be taken away from me. As a result, I never apologized. Every time we argued, he would be the one groveling for forgiveness. Never me. When I did forgive him he'd smile and hug me like he was the luckiest guy on earth.

    Psychology students should be familiar with the equity theory of relationships. Only in this case, even though I was the over-benefitted party, he never felt like he was under-benefitted. He took everything I threw at him.

    I began to see myself as such a terrible person. I became more insecure. Does he hate me now because I’m so horrible to him? This kind and loving person, my boyfriend whom I care so much about, I'm treating like dirt. That's low. I would start fights with him sometimes because it felt like my way of giving him a way out.

    And so a monster was created not only from being treated better than possibly deserved, greed for better, or a sick sense of self-righteousness; it was also born from self hatred.

    Have you guys ever been through something like this or been on the other side of the fence What's it like? And for others: what do you think?

Comments (48)

  • jeezshoua@xanga

    I have never treated anyone like that or been on the other side of the fence.  But if I was treated like that, I would guaranteed you that I wouldn't stay long with that type of person. 

    You treat him bad and you know it.  But I don't understand?  Why are you trying to give him a way out from the relationship?  Why can't you just talk to him about it?  Tell him that you want to be a better person and take the time out from the relationship.  Or are you using that as a defense mechanism for future reference if he does want to get back with you some time after that?

    It's good that you realized your problem.  Now just talk to him about it.  No need to boot him out if he don't want to unless he does.

  • InlUvWiTuRsMiLe@xanga

    Maybe you should just try and talk to him about it instead of starting "fights with him sometimes because it felt like my way of giving him a way out." I'm usually like your bf in relationships and even though I'm hurting, I don't tell him. I just lie to myself saying that he had a reason for treating me this way or that I deserved it because of something I did. My only advice is to talk to him and see what he says. Good luck :D

  • verified_but_still_denied@xanga

    Well... I remember I used to be one of those guys that was ur "floor matts". 


    Thing is The dude probably cares about you WAY too much. Or he could have been like me and have been used to getting stepped on but doesn't want to lose you because he had thought that you were one of the best things that has ever come into his life. So... he will be willing to accept all this shitt from you.  you should be careful when your doing this because say one day you finally leave him and he has no idea why, he's going to turn into the things women hate most. A player. Why would he make that sudden transformation? Because we get pissed, confused, angry and fustrated bc we have no idea what we did wrong. And when we think about what you have done to us... We don't blame you. Sometimes we blame ALL of women kind and toy with them. 
    Try to change as soon as you can. Because these ppl don't always stay the same for long after taking this much shitt. :\
  • anonymous

    this post verbally depicted everything that i had went through. this is the reason why i live my life full of regrets. i lost the love of my life/my fairy-tale love because of the above. i never knew that someone else could relate to what i went through but everything that you wrote above completely describes what happened to me.



    i took him for granted and now he's gone. not that he willingly left either. i'm with someone else now who doesnt treat me even a quarter of how he treated me. guys like the one that you describe are rare. every guy after him will have to meet neck-high expectations - and no they will not meet them. if you love him, get your act together before it's too late. because it's already too late for me. and i have no choice but to move on and "settle" with someone that treats me not-as-great.

  • SWEETxN0VEMBER@xanga

    i have never been in this situation on either side. it just sounds horrible and i would never want to be either.

    but i hope you do get your act together so that you can save your relationship.

  • tequila_sky@xanga

     I have also been on the receiving end of good treatment. I never actually treated him badly but I think that it isn't too good either to be like on a pedestal. I prefer a more equal partner. Right now what is funny to me is how my SO treats me kind of bad at times and he still says things like '' no one will ever love you like I do''. I want to tell him that yes, actually, someone treated me way better, like he can never treat me. But that is not what I want either. I think it can be suffocating. 

  • phuck_diz_shiz@xanga

    Time to be nice to him
    LET HIM KNOW HOW MUCH YOU APPRECIATE HIM
    & tell him you're SORRY* for doing all that shit to him, using him as a door mat

    You know whats going on, yet you still continue to do this to him?   uhh why ?

    Why cant you stop that bad habit, time to turn it around
    Your BF been nothing but nice to you
    Cant you be nice for once?

  • Feege@xanga

    Turn it around, and fast.
    As Linda, I too had the guy of my supposed dreams (yea there were certain things I didn't care for, but nobody's perfect).

    He and I are still friends, but it's hard for me to be around him and pretend to be normal.  I miss him.

    Go out of your way to do something sweet for him, let him know you care about him, otherwise you're going to lose him.

  • abcxunt@xanga

    i'm completely opposite, but i was also raised different.


    suck it up and tell him you're sorry. i mean, you do seem to genuinely care for him. but if you keep treating him like that, you will lose him. he's not your bitch, he's your significant other. would you want to be treated like a door mat?
  • JadedJanissary@xanga

    You sound like a really big jerk to me.  Why would you treat someone like this if you love them?  You just seem like someone who doesn't care about others. Just because you've come from a bad place doesn't give you some kind of pass to treat other people poorly. 

  • MusingsOfAnAlmostSocio@xanga

    Ah, I am that guy. My ex was that girl only when it was 'that time of month'. Still though, the rest rings true. The feeling of being put on a pedestal. The unbalanced relationship. Fighting was never our problem though. From a psychology standpoint, there are underlying factors here that I don't think are described or can be described by your post. You've hit on some of them, but now you're just glancing off pieces of self-doubt or analysis. Neither you nor any of us truly understand why you feel the way you feel, without knowing more about you. As for him? All of life is about balance. He has, up until now, decided that the good and the benefits being with you provides is greater than the negatives, the fights, the 'being stepped on'. Some people don't mind being stepped on, in certain contexts anyway. But everyone else is right. One day he MAY decide it's no longer worth it. If you're lucky he'll face you with it and you can try to work it out. If you're unlucky he'll find someone else and leave/cheat to be with her.

    But here's what you can do. If you can think of any unresolved issues you have with him, your previous relationships, your parents, etc, try to resolve them or share them with him, even if it doesn't result in resolution. Learn to be weak in front of him, and you'll find that his acceptance of your weakness may strengthen your relationship. Try doing something he has done for you, for him, or something similar. Start small. Pick things that you can do discretely, like surprise him at work with a snack and a kiss. It's impossible to suddenly equalize a relationship, and it feels so impossible you may feel overwhelmed. When you're feeling your best, write something small down and then do it. One step at a time, and eventually you may find it easier and more natural in the future. We expect to be a rock for our significant others, but we also want to be loved too. Avoid the extremes, and it'll be okay. But start today.

  • Shannannagin@xanga

    this was helpful to read, as I was on the other end once.  I never would have guessed insecurity to be the motivation for starting arguments, just to "give the other a way out."

    wow.

    have you wondered if your bf was somewhat in the wrong too, though?  perhaps insecurity is the problem on both ends.  he may have appeared to be a perfect servant, but the motivation for serving may have stemmed from a fear of being disliked.

    as one such "perfect servant," I'm slowly learning assertiveness is necessary to balance every relationship.

  • JessxMaxine@xanga
    I would sometimes be mean to my boyfriend; I figured it out myself before he pointed it out. It sucks. I got spoiled and never had anyone work so hard to make me happy.

    Talk to him about it.

    Xo
  • Nicola_Six@xanga

    Talk to him about it.

    And stop treating him that way. You recognize the problem - kudos to you. Now deal with it! Stop self-pity and self-loathing, and do something productive, like figure out how to stop yourself from treating him like crap. And figure out if you even want to be with him.

    You know, here's a thought: you may not love him or care about him. I mean, if you did, why treat him this way.

    And here's another thought: he may not love you, but love the idea of you or only the nice parts of you. He sounds like he's been blinded by love. I was once a doormat in a relationship, so I know that I didn't love HIM, but I loved what I thought he was once and the idea of us.

  • Bretagne89@xanga

    I became like that with my ex-Fiance over the course of 3 years, and he left me (like he should have, I know).  Now I'm more insecure than ever since I know I'm responsible for ruining the relationship in the first place.  I always worry that I'll do this again, so I'm over-compliant in relationships now.

  • Mike_Malignant@xanga

    ive done that before, and from my experience i would tell u to try and ease up theres only so much one can take

  • BimBo_HiPPo@xanga

    my bf is like that too, at least round 90% of the time. im trying not to be mean to him, even tho i do tend to ask him things and then just stop talking and he thinks im mad at him.. 

  • x3_AznBabeE@xanga

    that's happened to me before. the worst part was i didn't realize it until HE exploded at ME.
    which is fine, it made our relationship a lot stronger.
    he basically told me that i was being a self-centered bitch and that i should seriously stop and consider his feelings.
    and of course since i was so spoiled i thought it was nonsense and in some sense i disregarded it... but he intiated a pretty intense argument and at that point i realized i really needed to stop and THINK about what i was doing and how i was making him feel.
    after about almost 2 weeks of being bitter with each other (it was like an unofficial break [up?]) he decided to give me another chance to stop being so selfish.
    that was way in the beginning of our relationship... two months in i think... and i felt VERY grateful and lucky that he decided not to leave me because we JUST celebrated our 2nd New Year's together!


    basically i stopped asking for so much... before he confronted me i was a VERY jealous person. any girl he was good friends with, i'd want to pounce on her and tell her to gtfo, so i'd confront him. there were about 3 that i confronted him about. after our fight i realized there was nothing to be jealous about, so i stopped nagging him about other girls. i used to (subconsciously) make him stay on the phone with me for at LEAST an hour every night. now if we have 2 minute phone calls at night, that's totally okay. everyone needs sleep, especially with school going on. another big one for me, is that i would never apologized whenever we fought. i used to accuse him of thinking too much and would always tell him to calm down. the result was him apologizing when it was actually my fault.


    you have to really consider the other person's feeling. think about how it would be for you if you were in his place. life isn't a fairytale and that's what i thought our relationship was, simply because he did so much for me. you have to do as much for him as he does for you. always return the favor.

  • Tokimon@xanga

    @MusingsOfAnAlmostSocio@xanga - you definitely hit the nail on the head about feeling like it's impossible to equalize the relationship anymore... but yes, definitely she should start TODAY.  it's never too late to start improving.  he'll definitely be thankful for it :)

    @Nicola_Six@xanga - ur comment definitely made me think.. cuz i've been unsure if i really do love MY guy just cuz i treated him poorly before.. and it's been hard to figure it out, but now that i know i DO love him, i can give it my best shot.  i think i agree with ur point about the other guy being blinded by love.. but then, as my bf puts it.. he was hoping for things to change.

    to vivi

    i understand how you feel because .. your story is much like mine.  I loved my guy but I still treated him really poorly.  I did take him for granted, and I knew I was doing the wrong things.. but it was so hard for me to stop!  And then I found ways to pick fights over absolutely nothing (although I hadn't the slightest idea why I was doing it)... but you have to realize that HE WILL LEAVE.

    My guy ended up leaving.  And we've been back on and off for 4 months.  And finally we had to end it for good, because I hadn't been able to change and...I thought it'd be easier to just start over anew... A new guy, a new relationship... and I'd treat him better, even though I knew in my heart that my bf was the one who deserved to be treated better the most... because he was soooo good to me.

    After the initial shock of being single again... I tried to move on and I was pretty much getting there.. but then he came back to me and wanted to make it work.  And yes, he said he loved me.  And I still loved him.  So now, we're back together but it's definitely hard work.  But the proper kind of hard work is that.. I have to focus on myself.  I need to learn to be the kind of bf he is.  The ways your bf treats you well, more than you think you deserve... you need to learn from it and treat him the same way.  Treat him well.  I know, it's not as easy as it sounds (because I failed 3 or 4 times and we broke it off again until now...)

    Now, I think I can actually improve myself.. and it's helping for me to read these books.. so if you're a reader..

    I recommend some that have been helping me.  Right now, I'm reading "Why Talking Is Not Enough" by Susan Page.  I think this one is really relatable.  Also, "How to Date Men" by Janis Spindel and "Why Mars & Venus Collide" by John Gray.  The first one will be a good place to start.  Hope you make it through this... and definitely stop by my xanga and let me know how it's going or if you want to talk some, because I haven't reached my goal-end yet...but I'm trying to!!  It'll be nice to have company lol

  • LiLBallz16@xanga

    I wouldn't say that I'm just like your boyfriend, but I can seem some similarities. With me though, I would always end up feeling bad for everything. I'd call my boyfriend out on something, but in the end I would be telling him sorry for calling him out even though he was in the wrong in the 1st place.


    I've never been one to start fights. I usually physically feel ill when arguing with someone. And I wish I had more backbone. I mean, arguing to some extent will help out a relationship. But I hide from fights. 


    I'm madly in love with my boyfriend, but I sometimes worry that my lack of a backbone will in the end ruin us.

  • jennfaceee@xanga

    If you know what you're doing wrong, it's about time you fixed it. Don't ruin this relationship if he is that good to you. You know what needs to be fixed. Thinking about it won't make it better. Nor does arguing with him, allowing him to vent out. You need to step up.

  • kiwi_cheese@xanga

    this is happening to me right now.

    i feel like a horrible person and i've changed entirely. i used to be a nice, sweet girl and now...i'm just plain mean or not as nice as i used to be.  i'm not saying it's his fault in any way because of other things that has happened to me that has turned my heart bitter.  i understand how you pick fights randomly so he'll be fed up and maybe leave you, well atleast that's what i think you mean by

        "would start fights with him sometimes because it felt like my way of giving him a way out."

    i'd like to get to the other side , hopefully with him still with me and back to the nice girl i was :]

  • pamilvr@xanga

    falling off a pedestal is eventually unavoidable - falling off one you never asked to be on ( but couldn't possible refuse getting pushed up on) hurts - ALOT -



    been there...

  • sweetsweetsugarjunkie@xanga

    @jeezshoua@xanga - @InlUvWiTuRsMiLe@xanga - @phuck_diz_shiz@xanga -  @Nicola_Six@xanga - @Agent_Spanky@xanga - Thank you so much for your comments. I appreciate them so much. Just to answer all your questions at once: the thing is that I've told him that ever since I got together with him I've started to feel a little more than slightly displeased with myself. He thinks I'm being ridiculous. He doesn't want to "take a break" as I have suggested a few times.


    I'm not really sure exactly what the problem is (though I know that repairs are required on my end). He thinks nothing's wrong (but he has become frustrated with me a few times and then blamed it on himself). But I know I've turned for the worse because I throw tantrums and get mad so easily and I never used to be like this. I've just come to expect that he'd do things for me and when he doesn't it's like I feel let down even though I have no right to feel this way because he does so much for me already.


    It's so hard to explain...

  • akatiegirl

    I can kind of relate.  I  didn't have a hard life, but I dated a guy who threw himself under my feet at every chance.  I did my best not to take advantage of him--to give him some power in the relationship.  But he'd never take it.  He actually wanted to be told what to do, how to think, all of that.  Every now and then, he would rebel--mostly about religion and politics--but he never held his conviction for long.  He was my very own doormat, and I hated it.  I found myself treating him like dirt because the respect was gone.  I finally ended it.  I hated who I was with him, and hoped he would find out who he was without someone to control him.  But he's now married to a woman who dictates just about everything to him.  And hopefully, he's happy with his situation.  I'm just glad I finally found someone who is my equal.  You will, too.  Just learn from this experience and try to fix it in the future. That's the best you can do.

    -Katie

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